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"A pivotal question seems to be whether a person's transcendental experience leads to compassion and empathy with others, and whether there is a reduction in egocentric, selfish preoccupations. As these latter traits are also major characteristics of certain personality disorders, the alleviation of such problems becomes central to the development of the self. Indeed, egocentrism and lack of empathy are classic indicators of the lack of development of an authentic self. I am now convinced that transcendental experiences can occur to persons with serious personality disorders. Such persons often become dangerous teachers due to their lack of empathy and compassion for their students. Thus, the mind can be transcended through a psychospiritual "escape hatch," but the deeper emotional issues and problems will still be there when one returns to ordinary life. This cannot be overemphasized. I have met several persons who claimed to be spiritual teachers who seem to have genuinely experienced transcendence, but remain chronically unempathic, much to the detriment of their students. They talk at at length about compassion and love but by their actions seem to be more interested in the love of sex and the love of self, and sometimes, the love of money or alcohol. Much has been written of this in recent years (see Feuerstein, 1990; Walsh & Vaughan, 1993). In such cases, psychotherapy would be a proper prescription (Kornfield, 1993) as these persons tend to be destructive to those around them. It is likely that these experiences may have bypassed the essential step of reorganizing the core self so that one can address and work through his or her narcissistic or borderline issues. Only then can one stabilize the capacity for empathy and compassion. In other words, the empathy and compassion that one experiences through meditation and transcendence may only be temporary, felt concomitantly with the glow from the transcendent experience--and wears off soon after. It may also be that in such cases, after the glow diminishes, a person becomes infatuated with the fact of having been "chosen, " or privileged to have reached beyond the mundane. The person may now feel that he or she has become somehow superior or special- beyond mere ordinary persons. Such a person then subtly, unknowingly, and indirectly, projects himself or herself as a new standard for humanity. This is, of course, dangerous, especially to those who trust themselves to the "wisdom" of such persons. It is unfortunate that, with all the literature on meditation and transcendence, this connection with psychopathology is almost never mentioned. If it were, both teachers and students could more readily recognize such manifestations and realize that they are natural consequences of transcendence that need to be resolved. ... So-called knowledge arising from transcendence is similarly unreliable, often impulsive rather than intuitive, and drawn from memory reconstruction of the transcendent moment rather than the spontaneous experiencing and knowing in the here and now."
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mindcentral replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Maybe, but consider that you come across as less believable and kind of dull by calling people names and that this is hence not an effective teaching strategy. I will now state my perception of you, not to insult you but to clarify how you may come across to many people (and I do not think that these 'many people' are per se the ones that are lacking in qualities like intelligence, insight, etc.) I admit that I have not followed your content in a very long time beyond lurking on this forum once in a while and reading some of your posts, but to me you appear a kind of grandiloquent person with a bad case of spiritual ego who finds it very important to convey how much more conscious he is than other teachers. You also appear as a person who reifies his trip reports, getting stuck in an intellectual game of deconstructing -- often flippantly and lazily and hence not convincingly -- other models related to consciousness work and furthering one's own. (Perhaps it is being in a position where you must continue to generate content that gets you stuck in this conceptual game?) It is not that I am a proponent of these other models and hence feel personally offended by this, but the careless disrespect seems to indicate a lack of wisdom and insight rather than being a confirmation of how much more conscious you are than everyone else, which is what you seem to think it indicates. You also seem adamant about creating an identification between 'unconscious' or 'less conscious' or 'not conscious enough' and your audience. Even if this is genuinely a didactic technique and nothing else besides, I rather doubt that this is effective. Rather than shaking people awake, I would rather expect that in this way what you are teaching is emotional tension, negative motivation, low self-esteem, lack, ... I certainly don't mean to suggest that you only teach these things, as I've seen enough content to know that you also teach the opposite of these, but that this is what such a didactic technique tends to teach. (Just FYI: I am a proponent of using psychedelics for this work, so this is not an issue for me.) -
mindcentral replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Indeed, you were not addressing Brendon, and yet you called him an idiot. I don't see how this can be didactic rudeness, as this is being rude to someone you are not addressing. I did not make this post because I am a follower of Ralston or to defend his followers, but because your statement vis-a-vis your own rudeness is inconsistent with the rudeness in your post. Truth etc. -
mindcentral replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You say you are not rude out of thin air and that your rudeness is methodical, but the person you call an idiot is not on this forum nor a follower of your teachings. -
What psychedelic is the easiest on the body? Especially in terms of not causing tension (or even relaxing).
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I've had fibromyalgia for about 6 years now. I've tried myriad treatments, but maybe some of you have suggestions that I'm not aware of? I've done most 'standard' treatments and have tried most diets, except vegan which I don't believe will help me as I drive best on animal products. I've also done the carnivore diet, Wim Hof Method (still do, it's good but doesn't cure me or anything), acupuncture, somatic experiencing, floatation tanks, etc etc etc.. I'm familiar with Joe Dispenza so don't bother posting about him. Also please don't tell me to meditate or do psychedelics or seek enlightenment (been there done that).
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mindcentral replied to LfcCharlie4's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
How many rounds do you do each morning? -
mindcentral replied to mindcentral's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Supposedly Ramana Maharshi said that the 'the body itself is a disease' (in the context of his cancer, thus implying that the cancer was not something to be feel bad about). I guess it's one thing to say that the body is not you and unimportant, but why would he call it a disease?
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Awakenings come and go. What is present during both awakening and non-awakening? Find out what that is
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mindcentral replied to Eren Eeager's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Morality is a survival tool of ego's, something that stands in the way of consciousness. -
mindcentral replied to WellbeingSeeker's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Check out the Joe Dispenza testimonials on YouTube, they are likely relevant for your project. -
Lately during meditation, my eyes often roll back in my head and then my eyelids open, but I only see blackness because my eyes are rolled back in my head. Any ideas on what causes this or what it signifies, if anything? Thanks.
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mindcentral replied to Joker_Theory's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Being aware of being aware is very simple. It might appear complex when the mind tries to understand it intellectually, but actually being aware of being aware is profoundly simple, I would say simpler than focusing on the breath. When the mind tries to grasp it rationally, you only need to notice that you are aware of this trying-to-grasp. No problem! -
mindcentral replied to Joker_Theory's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
When frustration arises in your experience, notice that you are being aware of frustration. (If you weren't you would not know that 'you' get frustrated.) When you don't know what focus on, notice that you are being aware of this confusion arising within experience. When the mind is trying to logically understand how 'it' should be aware of being aware, notice that you are being aware of the mind trying to logically understand. In your guided meditation, when feeling that you can't focus on being aware of being aware, be aware that you are aware of feeling that you can't focus on it. (If you weren't you wouldn't be able to react to this feeling.) Keep on noticing forms of experience (thoughts, feelings, perceptions, etc.) arise within experience and keep noticing that you are aware of these forms. I would also suggest the following: When the mind is trying to control the being aware of being aware meditation, wanting it to be some preconceived concept of it, notice that you are aware of the mind trying to control the meditation. Put differently, when you notice desiring some different state than the one you are currently experiencing, notice that you are being aware of this desiring. Being aware of being aware is not a state of mind. A state X is relative to a state Y and is thus a form of experience, an object of experience. Being aware of being aware is a 'non-objective' experience. Be aware of the mind turning being aware of being aware into an object to be realized in the future. Being aware is already the case, now. Be aware that it is already the case. Be aware that you are aware of the screen on which you are reading this text. Be aware that you are aware of the noises that appear in the mind as a result of this text. Be aware that you are aware that the color of this text is black. Be aware that you are aware of the white background of this forum. Etc.