Rasheed

The question: "Is it really important and necessary to sleep with 20 girls?" sounds gross, bizarre, and low-quality, yet let me explain the context first. Two years ago, at the age of 19, I learned dating and pickup from Leo, Mark Manson, and RSD Todd. Before that, I was literally beyond clueless and ignorant of both the inner and outer game. Leo's series "How to Get Laid" changed my life. After I carefully learned the theory and started implementing it, I met my first girlfriend—all thanks to learning and doing pickup. Our relationship was on and off, yet I wasn't worried because I extensively practiced the cold approach, approaching hundreds of girls while methodologically implementing the theory. After 2 years, I went on 10s of dates, approximately 30+ at this point, and slept with 3 girls in total. One of them is my current girlfriend, whom I met also through a cold approach. I love pickup; nevertheless, it takes time and energy. I am heavily focused on my life purpose, overall higher development, and what in this forum we call, self-actualized life—doing meditation, contemplation, reading, et cetera. And what I have discovered is that trying to date multiple women at the same time takes time; going out on an infield takes time; going on dates takes time, everything involved in a process of pickup and dating takes time. In my pickup evolution, I went from "going out for 3 hours and not approaching due to anxiety" to a point where if I see a cute girl passing me by randomly on a street, as I am going on my business, I can immediately approach, without any warm-up or anything. I wouldn't call myself "advanced" by any means, yet I am firmly in that intermediate stage. Being an intermediate and 21, should I simply date one girl—that will take time away from approaching and going on dates, which I will allocate to self-actualization work—or should I instead keep approaching and keep going on dates with a goal in mind to reach 20 "lays" (as PUAs would put it) because Leo in his series "How to Get Laid" said that in order to become a developed, attractive, high quality masculine man, it is necessary to sleep with 20 girls...that point makes sense to me, but at the same time, dating takes time, and I would like to allocate that time to mastering my chosen craft/life purpose/domain of mastery, and other self-actualization activities as well. Also, the girl I am dating is really into me. We have amazing sex (thanks to Leo's video on having sex). And since I met my current girlfriend a couple months ago, I have been going out on infields and, for that matter, dates less often. I literally turned down girls who wanted to go out with me because in that week I already had great sex with my girlfriend, and I simply didn't have a motivation to, as I preferred to spend time meditating, doing deliberate practice, or other "self-actualization" related activity. Obviously, if I spent the time I had great sex with my girlfriend—entire days literally—and did pickup instead of that, I would have more dates, and perhaps lays at this point of course, because I would spend that time doing approaches. Honestly, I don't regret that by any means but still, to drive the point, I want to make home. My question is, and excuse me for my long and all over the place question: (Don't want to sound cocky, there are men 100x better at pickup than me) At the age of 21, after going from a complete beginner to intermediate in pick up (from kiss-less virgin with no dating experience and afraid to approach, to 3 lays, 10s of dates (including a plethora of instant dates, for example), and no problem approaching), what should I do? If I go into an exclusive relationship with my girlfriend, I will be cool with that, yet the problem with the foregoing is that this will freeze me at 3 lays, when Leo says, 20 lays is necessary. (Some Red Pill guys say 50, but I think that's too much; 20 is a good number). What do you guys think? Learning pickup and dating changed my entire life for the better, transformed into a better, more developed, and more masculine man. Thus, it means a lot to me. I want to make this decision carefully, so I decided to ask the question on the forum.

If you studied Todd V and you're good with women, there's no way you cannot get a girlfriend; that's impossible, my friend. So, congrats. Todd V teaches gold material, that will get ANYONE results—ofc if they implement both inner and outer game insights diligently

I would advise you to approach, learn dating theory well, and you will get results. While removing any negative presuppositions and assumptions vis-vis women. Such beliefs won’t be helpful. Of course, I haven’t said anything new and this is what Leo teaches himself, all the time

Leo, since you are into crocodiles, I am sure, you are going to like Crocodile Gena:

Can’t put it more correctly than that. And anyone who has experience in pickup will precisely understand what Leo is pointing towards Vis-a-vis my question, I am still thinking about it—ain’t easy—plus, I want to do everything in a morally and ethically conscious fashion

Read Manson’s book “Models” and he covers an answer to your question extensively. One of the important details is the fact that as a masculine man, you must place highest value on your own perception and opinion of yourself, rather than others opinion of you. Appreciating that, cute girl saying “No”—happened, happens and will happen to me me, you, Leo, Manson, and every other high value masculine man who does cold appreciate—cannot affect one’s authentic, strong, mature self-esteem (understood N. Branden’s sense) That’s it, you understood me precisely. I want those skills, yet at the same time, that of course takes time (time dedicated to cold approach, text game, dates, pick up) away from my mastery/life purpose work and other self-actualization activities—time that having a LTR girlfriend frees up. Yet, those skills are indispensable, and stopping at intermediate level is risky, of course. This is a tricky life choice, necessitating a serious balancing. Regarding number 20, I think that captures the “lots of experience” aspect very well, while Red Pill 50 lays is way too much Dating one girl frees up time of cold approach, setting and going dates, et cetera. Yet, it doesn’t lead to that growth which the process of pick up as a whole leads to, from making an opener to taking the lady to a candy shop… What do you think, is LTR relationships in one’s 20s not the best way to go with respect to growth and building skillset as a man?

I haven’t read this but didn’t expect an answer like this 😂

There is nothing in my post that says either I, Leo, Manson, Todd, or Red pill guys evaluate themselves by lay counts. That’s a flagrant misinterpretation

The fact that you did “pick up” and thought that means you did not do it, and don’t understand what it is about. Also, since you call it a cult, it either means two things: 1). You don’t know what cult is. 2). You don’t know what pick ups. from your first response latter is evident, so from that point on, calling a cult something you don’t get is misguided

Bro, come on, calling pick up cult…I won’t even debate you on that point because its utter nonsense. Have you done pick up yourself? Or are you just talking as a spectator? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t to sound disrespectful, just asking. Thanks for sharing your point of view by the way

Why is it cringe?

“Lay” is a term all pick up coaches use including Todd, and I think and If I remember correctly, Leo does use it as well (I might be wrong on that point, not sure). And regarding numbers, Leo said it, red pill guys say it, and if you think about it, it makes sense

Even 1 month after professional cleaning, I get tartar—2.5 months passed and I have a crazy tartar/calculus. My diet consists if low carb, high protein, and high fat, mostly carnivore. Yet I always have this incessant acid reflux. Is acid reflux cause of my tartar. (I keep my oral hygiene good by brushing my teeth twice.) What should I do? How can avoid tartar? I will go to professional cleaning this week, but what’s the point, In two weeks, tartar is back at full force...

Wait how? You haven’t brushed your teeth for 6 years? First of all why? Second of all, how did you maintain your teeth healthy without brushing? Are they White? I also rinse my mouth with water after eating, yet tartar is running amok in my case What do you think about Kefir?

I eat lots of dairy too… By the way, thanks for advise Princess Arabia, I appreciate it.

I don't eat greens that much; I am 80% carnivore. And the funny thing is, I actually use Colgate and Oral-B as toothpaste. By the way, does acidity cause tartar?

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Thanks for the answers 👍 One more question: If you had to choose only 5 supplements and 3 nootropics for most energy, overall health and mental clarity—what would you choose?

What are your thoughts on Qualia Supplements? By the way, thank you Nilsi—I did not know about Qualia supplements before, they look quite promising 👍

Is watching Infield videos important? Or it is something that’s irrelevant for one’s learning, growth and improvement—something professional dating coaches do in order to increase the price of their courses? Regardless of “yes” or “no”, can you also explain “why” behind your answer as well. Thanks Rasheed

I agree, having wings is great, important and very useful

Oh, I did not know that, I thought it was just a marketing tactic—I am going to start watching Infields, 100%.

Sincere question: How can monarchy still exist in 2023? It is hard to get one's mind around the fact that monarchies still exist in 2023. Yes, most of these monarchies are constitutional, i.e., monarchies don't govern countries, yet regardless of this, having a monarchy is still a deeply unconscious and blatant manifestation of underdevelopment. As having a constitutional monarchy is still not okay, it must not be tolerated. How come people in these countries don't come out and protest against it? Is it way too hard to apprehend that, in actuality, everyone has equal spiritual and metaphysical worth—it doesn't matter their ethnicity, gender, social status, wealth, etc.? Monarchy is the epitome of inequality, stupidity, unconsciousness, and underdevelopment because it is fundamentally based on the premise that some people have more metaphysical or spiritual base worth than others. It is literally based on the false belief that some people, i.e., royal monarchs, are special; thereby, they must live in a lap of luxury, getting paid to exist—being entitled to fame, wealth, and luxury. WHAT A HOGWASH! Everyone has equal worth. Done. This is an indubitable point. It won't be unreasonable to conclude that all monarchs and everyone who supports monarchy are literal fools. These are people with immensely undeveloped minds. Their minds are so underdeveloped that they cannot apprehend how monarchy is a made-up bullshit, and if right now we go ahead and take a random beggar on a street and make him or her a king or queen of whatever royal country, we would be equally correct because the specialty of so-called monarchs is complete made-up bullshit. In the end, monarchy is a violation of the fundamental point of how ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL. Since all humans are created equal, nobody shall be denoted as a prince or princess. Such bullshit royal schemes are based on a fundamentally wrong premise—a premise that disrespects humanity and its potential for self-actualization. Anyone who states that some people have a higher base worth, i.e., they have more value (more metaphysical or spiritual value) than others is a fool—a moron whose mind is crippled. Shame on every country that has a monarchy and its people! Fools. Shame on anyone who watches these monarchs and follows their bullshit. Such people are equal idiots as these royal families. Total fools. What do you think? How can monarchy still exist in 2023? What's the cause? What is the reason behind monarchies still existing? How can it end? Will there be a time in human history where all types of royalties will be completely abolished and all will realize that all so-called royals are monkeys, fools, idiots, liars, and con artists who are scamming humanity?

Haha. Again, engaging in emotional projection. To use your own terms, I answered your “pushback” in a manner that you weren’t able to apprehend, due to the failure to distinguish between content and structure. From what I can see, you have trouble with prior distinction. Also, from what I can see you, you have a problem in understanding how Tier 2 deals with Stage Green. I advice you see Leo’s video about structure vs content. Concurrently, I would advice you to read Ken Wilber’s books, the most accessible one is “Brief History of Everything”—that book alone will change your perspective, showing inadequacies of your stance while helping you to apprehend what I have written. Of course, I might be wrong as it is hard to tell what’s best way forward from just few comments. Yet, my intention is to help, not to argue or point fingers in a childish, emotional manner If you don’t want to do any of that and instead remain in closed-mindedness, pointing fingers and engaging in emotional projecting, unable to observe yourself in action, acting unconsciously—you can do so. I wish you good luck Again, thanks for the response.

@Danioover9000 Your answer again proves that you could not understand what I’ve said. I appreciate your point of view but at this point, I think we are wasting time, as you are unable to let go of your perspective in order to entertain a different one, not to mention the emotional projecting onto me, what you, yourself are engaging in. Regardless, thanks for the response 👍