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It’s fine to take time off from dating or even not want to date at all if you really choose. But as a community and ideology, MGTOW is toxic. It’s basically just a spinoff of redpill guys who felt they were so redpill that they didn’t need women. Avoid it.

I familiarized myself with some of the progressive arguments for defunding the police during the George Floyd riots. They basically say the following: 1) Policing is inherently corrupt due to the racial origins of policing (slave catchers) 2) Modern police do face life and death situations, but the majority of their day is actually quite mundane. Serious action is rare 3) The police take up a disproportional part of any cities’ budget. Because policing does not get to the root of issue of crime, you have tons of money being directed away from solutions that would actually reduce crime (like education, social services etc). 4) Police are given way too many tasks that are outside the scope of what they should be doing and are trained for. And that most of situations do not require someone with a gun. In fact, the threat of violence escalates these situations and make them worse. Although I think some progressives do not appreciate how hard it is being a police officer and why they are necessary, I think there is some truth in their arguments as well. I would challenge progressives mainly on the implementation of their ideas. You cannot just demand to cut the police budget 50% overnight and expect good results. If you want to really defund the police, progressives need to: a) Have a detailed, solid plan of where this money will go and how it will be better than police b) TEST their ideas on a small scale. Get success cases. What unexpected problems have arisen? Troubleshoot and debug. c) Integrate with the rest of the criminal justice system and gradually scale up your solutions In other words, baby steps. The problem for progressives is that even if they are correct, the reality is that people are not going to easily give up police. A progressive might be okay with that, but for the average person, it’s asking way too much. But progressives also often dislike baby steps and like radical change so here we are lol.

I think it’s not as bad as you think it is. Yes democrats need to improve their strategy, that is always the case. But they did well overall. It’s not that democrats can’t beat traditional republican candidates. It’s more that when people are upset, they will often vote more favorably for the opposite party in charge. Doesn’t matter if it’s that party’s fault or not. At the end of the day, consciousness evolves, the Overton window moves, and we become more progressive overtime.

Yes and no. There definitely could have been a red wave in that case. People weren’t happy about inflation and gas prices. But the fact there wasn’t a wave shows that the threat of democracy mattered to voters. Trump candidates did very poorly. Roe also likely contributed to some degree.

Iran now appears to be disbanding its morality police. That’s a significant move and could be considered an accomplishment of the protests. It’s clear to me that these protests are partially due to the propagation of Western cultural memes. This is either a good thing or a bad thing. It’s good if it ends up elevating the consciousness level of Iran. It’s bad if it’s too far above the consciousness level of Iran. Successful social change requires hitting that sweet spot of ideas being better than the status quo, but not too far out of reach.

@Thought Art Nice insights. I am also watching this series and appreciating it so far. I admire Leo’s ability to articulate the conservative position in a way I think they would agree with. It’s like a mirror reflecting back their perspective. One of the main things I think I’m also getting out of this is a much deeper understanding of how Tier 2 works. Tier 2 really is its “own thing”. It’s not conservative or liberal, it’s a unification of both. But not in some disingenuous way where you just pretend to be above partisanship and taking sides. It transcends and includes partisanship and taking sides. It’s radically Inclusive, including of exclusivity and preferences.

I understand your point. You want to be authentic, non-attached etc etc. And you could make the argument that this TV character shows some of that. The issue is that here it’s done in a way that is not applicable to the real world. If you act like this in the real world, people are not going to like it.

Because in real life this person would be highly anti-social. This is a TV show. If you want to see what good social skills look like, go out and socialize with people who already have good skills. It will not look like this girl.

@NoSelfSelf It looks like an interesting show, maybe this character could help you integrate more of a “IDGAF” attitude. But it’s not really practical advice. Acting like this girl is not what success in dating looks like.

My argument was not that men have more legal rights than women. In the west things have definitely progressed. Other areas of the globe are lower on the spiral and have not hit full feminism yet. Still, interpersonal power differentials between men and women in relationship can exist. Whether this is healthy or unhealthy for the relationship depends on many factors. Both genders are obviously capable of holding the power differential in their favor and committing abuse. This is not about gender per say. It’s about selfishness and the ego’s desire to seek survival gain often at the expense of others. But the masculine is of particular concern here since the Jungian feminine tends to seeks masculine containment.

Age tends to create a power differential. Such power differentials exist in many areas of society (surgeon - patient, parent - child, CEO - employee, politician - people). These power differentials can be beneficial, but they can and often are abused as well. Historically (and currently) men certainly have been guilty of this. Because of this abuse, feminism has necessarily been about leveling this power differential. Women no longer have to depend on men for money and resources, they can have a career and make their own money. They can vote politically. They have reproductive autonomy. This gives power back to women in the differential. In the future, we need to both develop a healthier relationship with power differentials and eliminate toxic ones. The problem is less that there is some power differential and more the tendency to exploit this power for personal gain. Power can be very seductive for the ego and it takes a high level of development to stay in a place of responsibility and not exploitation.

I’m personally looking forward to the courses. I think it would also be cool if we could interact with people who are also taking the course and discuss the content, like a FB group or maybe private section of the forum. Zoom calls would also be interesting.

@Razard86 Your posts are usually a miss for me. What I’ve noticed about you is that you constantly attempt to set the frame of “I am the authority, I am the teacher, you need to listen to me”. But rather than coming off as confident and a leader, you come off as juvenile and arrogant. I think what you want is to be a leader. And I resonate with that desire. But you speak about things which you do not understand. This doesn’t make you seem like a great leader, it makes you seem like a fool. Put in the work. Earn it. Show me why you deserve to be considered a teacher. A little bit of humbleness I think will take you a long way. People who are wise and who have seriously put in the work are not going to appreciate your style otherwise.

Yeah welcome to life. The whole challenge is that you must be wise with how you invest your time. Practically speaking, you may not be able to spend 3-5 years hardcore improving your dating life AND at the same time growing your business like crazy. Sometimes you just have to prioritize one area for a while to the detriment of others. Come back to it later. Or, you may be able to do both. It all depends on your goals, how far away from them you are, and what resources you have. You say that you’re already naturally social, so honestly I don’t think you’ll need 3-5 years of everyday work to improve your dating situation. My guess is you could improve just going out on the weekends. The key is just to figure out what is most important and then succeed or die trying.

It’s simple: Trump doesn’t think about these things that deeply. When you are stage Red, your thinking is very short-term, impulsive and narcissistic. From a Red POV, trying to overturn the election makes complete sense. You just do whatever you can to try and get immediate gain. Sometimes that strategy works for Red, but often it does not. It’s a big gamble. Especially in environments that are more developed. It can easily boomerang, which is how Red eventually exhausts itself and settles into Blue. Also, he has a massive shadow around losing and being seen as a loser. Probably shame from his childhood. I don’t see that happening. Especially since Kanye seems to now be running himself. Which seems to have angered Trump (surprise, surprise). https://www.businessinsider.com/kanye-west-says-trump-screamed-him-dinner-mar-a-lago-2022-11?amp

Seems unlikely. That was a decent take by Shapiro. But unless something drastic happens, like Trump gets indicted and convicted, I think it’s too little too late. Even Shapiro is not flat out calling for a new nominee, he is just not happy with Trump’s picks. Probably only Desantis could feasibly challenge him and it’s not even clear if he will run yet.

I agree there is definitely is quite a bit of that. Or at least better relationship skills in a lot of Green communities. Relationships require their own study. People critique Green a lot, but Green is relatively high up the developmental ladder. If you’re at Green, you’re still in the top 20% of all people in terms of development.

I agree the forum needs to be vigilant against bigotry. I was a moderator here for a while and basically you just have to use your best judgment what is or isn’t okay. There’s no training for something like this, and even if there was, it would still be a challenge. Where do you draw the line between a disagreement and a rule violation? That is the question. Specifically, it seems like your biggest critique is on LGBTQA+ issues. And that the mod team + Leo has not been vigilant enough on checking homophobia, transphobia etc. Personally, I think the forum is generally well moderated. Which doesn’t mean you won’t have issues of bigotry at times. But on the whole, I feel it does pretty well. Misogyny is probably the most common form of bigotry I see. There is an additional challenge here, which is that the entire point of Actualized.org is questioning reality, assumptions, bias and self-deception. It is meant to be non-ideological. No one’s ideology gets a pass. And that includes SJW Green type of thinking. If you’re not willing to question SJW narratives at least somewhat, that you should tell you that you’re no longer serving the truth. You’re serving something else. It’s easy to feel good about being non-ideological until it’s your ideology’s turn on the chopping block. But of course, we also need to distinguish between questioning and bigotry. Especially since bigotry can cloak itself under the guise of questioning. This is a real challenge. Bigotry itself is also an ideology that needs to be questioned. If you question your bigotry deep enough, you will cease to be a bigot because it’s based on self-deception and bias. Which is what Actualized.org is suppose to help with.

That is what I’ve found. There are no Tier 2 cities. Best you can do is basically Green / Orange. Cities like New York, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Portland, Denver, Austin, Salt Lake City, etc. Not that I’ve personally been apart of though. I’m sure you could find smaller companies or startups with a significant percentage of Yellow+. The larger the sample size of people, the more it’s going to begin skewing Green / Orange / Blue. Those are the three predominate colors in the US.

@puporing Not something I’ve experienced but sounds similar to what I’ve heard others report. David Hawkins in particular I believe talked about this, stating that everything would shine with the radiant beauty of divinity.

@Raptorsin7 What blindspots does the Actualized.org community have in comparison?

@TwistedOntic Awesome work! You got it. Keep contemplating and you’ll deepen your understanding.

No I do not. The economic system before our current system (capitalism) was feudalism. Feudalism was really the embodiment of stage blue / red in Europe, with its rigid social roles and relationship with the church. Capitalism was a shift towards Orange individualism. It gave people the chance to move up the social ladder and choose where to work. It decentralized intelligence of resource distribution from monarchy to the market. With the industrial revolution fueled by new scientific discoveries, mass production came online. All of this is Orange and has been around for quite a while. You can see Orange thinking in the Constitution of the US. Democracy itself is an Orange level idea, with its democratization of political power. Orange is much deeper than modern entrepreneurship. Entrepreneurship is just one flavor of Orange. It’s the Rational, 3rd person mode of thinking coming online. Which is why modern science and capitalism began appearing at around the same time. You could be a state employed university scientist and be textbook Orange. You could be an employee just about anywhere and still be Orange. Not necessarily. Green is still tier 1, which means it can and often does react badly against the lower stages. So a hippie Green could have legitimately moved through Orange. It all depends on the person and their particular environment / process. They could. But they could also not. Not everyone is like that or wants that.

@LordFall It really just depends on what part of the world you are talking about. Yes, even in the Global North we have a lot of Blue. But I also wouldn’t say its predominantly Blue. The birth of the United States itself is clearly the result of an Orange reaction against the Blue monarchies of Europe. Orange has been around for a while. Red is pretty rare in the Global North. According to some estimates I’ve read from Ken Wilber, something like 20-30% of the world population has made it to Green. Supposedly above 10% creates a tipping point where more and more people will start to be attracted to that stage. But undoubtedly a lot of the world still needs to move through Blue and Orange. Green is a utopic fantasy for many.

Keep cracking, it is indeed a big one. My recommendation would be to go more meta. From reading your responses, you’re still focusing too much on content. The content is irrelevant because it’s all still your experience happening in you. Space itself is consciousness.