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Yes it’s related. “Whiny” can be similar to having a victim mentality.

More like: Liberalism wants to address larger societal problems related to patriarchy and toxic masculinity which lead to rape. This correlates with an increase in responsibility for men and all those in power to not abuse it. It’s not about victim mentality, it’s about a leveling of power dynamics and higher ethical standards. That’s what Green cares about. Of course some progressives can get stuck in victim mentality. But to smear all this as being “woke” or “being a victim” is precisely the error the right wing is making. That is a strawman and cherrypicking.

Yes, feminism and acillary progressive ideologies are demolishing traditional ideas of what it means to be a man or a woman. This is not a mistake, this is the evolution of consciousness and natural consequence of societal development. But there will be challenges on all sides. Those who cling to their old identity will see said new ideologies as wrong, bad or evil. They will lash out and feel confused. There may be an existential crisis. This is how it always works when the ego is threatened. With all these emotions being stirred up, this does create a market for grifters to exploit. And most of the time these grifters themselves will not even be conscious of what they are doing. They are suffering from the exact same problem. They also are subscribed to these reactionary ideologies. Thus, it's fearful men selling to other fearful men. Men are going to have to redefine masculinity outside of what it previously meant. Which may include some of the traditional elements, but also will likely exclude others. Transcend and include. Of course this does not explain ALL of the behavior found in these alt-right communities. Some guys are just pissed because they've been through a real bad divorce / breakup and these anti-women narratives appeal to their bitterness. But there is a larger dynamic going on outside of that.

@Someone here Of course some liberals can be very immature and irresponsible. But I’d argue your read of the room is off. A liberal who has made it to stage Green tends to actually be more responsible than conservatives. What you interpret as liberals not taking personal responsibility is actually an increase in their circle of concern. Which transcends and includes personal responsibility.

Key memes: environmentalism, late-stage capitalism, selfish individualism, anti-consumerism, privilege, egalitarianism, protesting for social justice.

Didn't dispute that. There are people who claim to be breatharians and have gone a year + without eating. And I'm tempted to believe some of them may be telling the truth. Of course it does. Springwater absolutely has electrolytes. Worked for you, you mean. Health is complex. There are many factors. None of this is in dispute either. I've done lots of fasting and continue to do so even to this day. I don't think fasting in of itself is a hoax Still, we have to distinguish between people for whom fasting may be indicated or contraindicated. Every trained health care professional understands this. If you just sloppily assume your method will work for everyone, that's often how people get hurt or even killed. In addition, we have to distinguish between reckless forms of fasting and fasting that is likely safer / healthier. If it's true that OP had never done a fast before and immediately jumped into doing 21 days, I'd generally consider that reckless. I cannot imagine almost any situation where that would be indicated. May be in an extremely small minority of cases. In that case, I'd say Tanglewood is on questionable ethical ground by even allowing him to do such a long fast. If you really want to do 21 days, a better approach for most people would be to start slow and see how your body responds. Start with even just 24 or 72 hours. Can you even manage that? That alone will be extremely challenging for a lot of people. Jumping into 21 days is like doing a breakthrough dose of 30mg of 5Meo on your first psychedelic trip.

There is nothing I’ve seen that suggests such a thing when it comes to electrolytes. https://healthreporter.com/does-salt-break-a-fast/ https://healthinsider.news/electrolytes-while-fasting-diet-en/ Considering that the consensus seems to be that you will rip through your electrolytes in the first couple of days, you are still likely better off. Then I’m happy for you. I’m willing to say that whatever Loren is doing is probably working for him. And it may even work for a number of people. But in the case of OP, it sounds like a disaster.

My guess is the most immediate side effect would throwing your electrolyte balance off. Which could lead to problems with hydration and probably a whole host of other things. Long-term I’m not sure. There seems to be some correlation with salt and hypertension. But I don’t feel qualified to really say.

And all the techniques are named in French

So you actively dump 4-6 teaspoons at day on top of your food? That does sound like way too much to me. Personally I’ll do about a pinch or two per day.

How much is a lot? You definitely want some salt in your diet. Ideally in a high quality form like sea salt or pink salt. But you can definitely overdo it as well.

@Noahsteelers34 Why on earth would they tell you not to take electrolytes? The whole thing just sounds reckless to me. For the record, I also had a bad experience with a water fast. Mine was not 21 days but I definitely felt like shit afterwards. I bounced back though, and I bet you will too.

That is what people in this thread have been saying. I don’t think you are onto to some new paradox we are not aware of.

That is basically what humanity has been doing for the last several thousand years. We’ve are constantly evolving our collective ego strategies. So it seems almost certain it will continue to evolve in that direction. We just have to keep nudging it forward.

So then what is your point? It sounds like you are alluding to something but not saying it.

I’m not sure what point you are trying to make here. God is still God even when it imagines itself as a butterfly. Yes. The fact there is nothing outside of God to tell it that it is not a butterfly is why it is able to imagine itself a butterfly in the first place.

It sounds like you’re trying to make a “no-self” argument. Yes we could look at it like that. There is no one to experience God. And yet you are God and clearly can experience yourself as such.

Yes. But from a practical POV, you will not experience yourself as God. For you, there will be no difference. Which is the whole point.

It doesn’t make much of a difference IF your goal is purely quantity of girls. In fact, as you become more conscious from meditating, you may see how shallow of a goal that is to begin with. The biggest lever for quantity is simply the amount of socializing you do. Especially socializing in “party” environments where hook ups are more expected, like night clubs. That said, you should still meditate simply because it’s a good habit for other reasons.

Hard to say. What you are describing sounds beyond anything I’ve personally ever experienced. I can easily go some time without sex if I want. It might just be genetics. Maybe hormones. I don’t really know. You probably just need to find a girlfriend who has a close to equally high sex drive.

@Optimized Life It could help you chill out a bit. Go to a spa. Get in a sauna, cold plunge if they have it, and get some Swedish massage. You may feel much better. Craniosacral therapy may also help.

@jimwell Yes, ChatGpT is correct. That is a basic explanation of how money comes into existence. Obviously more complicated explanations are also possible. Ecological economists and degrowth scholars are often concerned about this progress because they argue it creates “a growth imperative”. In other words, the need for the economy to grow is baked in to the monetary system itself. It creates a situation where debt always outstrips the money supply. If there is corruption in this system, I’d argue this is at least one of the places to look. We know what the benefits of economic growth are, but what are its costs? Here is a good talk by Jim Rutt on the subject: Note: I am not necessarily endorsing his solution of Dividend Money. I am skeptical that will work. But his analysis of the problem with the current system is pretty good. It is both.

I am getting frustrated because I feel like my points are being perpetually misunderstood. No, that is not the issue. There may have been times when things got out of hand. But overall, what you just said was a defense many anti-vaxxers used when the heat was (rightfully) coming down on them. The main issue is the following: is COVID dangerous? Is the vaccine effective? And to what degree should the vaccine be enforced? Which is of course why no one did that. I am not suggesting that as policy. I am attempting to show you why there needed to be consequences for not taking the vaccine. This is completely wrong. The whole problem of COVID is that it was a legitimate dangerous situation with a lot of uncertainty. Public officials do not have time to wait until the vaccine is 100% effective in all circumstances. They needed to stop hospitals from overflowing and people from dying. In real life, good enough is good enough. The practical result of the policy you are advocating would have been more deaths, more hospitalizations, and possibly a situation where COVID remains out of control. In fact, it is precisely because people like Brand promote vaccine and anti-establishment conspiracies that public consequences of not taking the vaccine became necessary. If everyone just got the vaccine, it wouldn’t have been necessary to threaten people with being fired. I highly doubt that. Then you are being foolish. Which is the whole point of this conversation. You are not free to endanger other people with your stupidity. If you drive a car without glasses when you need them, you will rightfully lose your license. This is the correct response. And it doesn’t matter if you “don’t believe” in the effectiveness of glasses while driving. That is your problem. Which is why education matters. You missed the point entirely. I am not at all making a commentary on what is happening in Ukraine. I am simply pointing out how little freedom you’ve ever actually had.

No I think your assessment is pretty spot on. Thanks for the thorough reply. For context, I found this company from the Aubrey Marcus podcast. Aubrey is the co-founder of Onnit along with Joe Rogan. Aubrey is a wealthy guy and obviously big on supplements. It doesn’t surprise me at all that something like this would appeal to him. He also (apparently) has been struggling with low testosterone for some time. I’ll check it out.