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@Romazho Doesn’t sound like narcissism to me. I think you’re fine. Just keep doing the work. Remember, all “other” characters are you. That’s one of the main insights we are shooting for. If you still think others are separate bots, you didn’t get it.

Mainstream media is overall less corrupt than Hersh. Yes, he did some good work like 50 years ago with Vietnam. But he has gone into some weird territory since then. That's the problem with an anti-mainstream, anti-authoritarian, anti-government bias that Hersh seems to have developed. You start to see conspiracies everywhere, and then you can give theories a pass because you think you are doing critical thinking. But in reality you are just unconscious of your own conspiratorial, anti-mainstream bias. Of course the government can do shady or heavily biased things. But don't think just because you are accusing the government of doing something corrupt that you are not actually the corrupt one. It's more convoluted than that. Bias affects ALL parties, and that includes independent media and fringe investigative journalism that claim to be the uncorrupt ones. And in many cases, the bias is actually stronger coming from these fringe sources.

I call bullshit. All this from a single anonymous source? This is not serious journalism. This is conspiracy level thinking.

That may be true, but you are not that God-realized. In practice your entire life is still mostly driven by relative human concerns. To think you have transcended all of that is the delusion. There are relative realities so horrific that your sense of inner peace and transcendance would shatter in a million pieces if you experienced them. It comes from a place of self-awareness of my development and spiritual progress. I am not yet able to see Absolute Perfection in all things. I still have many fears. It implies that all the worst possible things you can imagine happening to you are also Absolute Perfection. All your darkest fears. Absolute perfection means Absolute! There can be NO exceptions. That means if someone is torturing you and your family, that is Absolute Perfection. If you go to prison for the rest of your life for a crime you didn't commit, that is Absolute Perfection. Genocide and war is Absolute Perfection. On and on it goes. It should be obvious that you are not actually okay with these things and will fight like hell to not let them happen. And when you are fighting against them, that is ALSO Absolute Perfection!

Fundamentally what I think most people are pointing to when they say “X person doesn’t respect women” is that X person doesn’t see the importance of women. Or more broadly, they don’t see the importance of femininity and the role it plays. They find women and femininity useless outside of some narrow selfish survival metric. Look at a guy like Andrew Tate as an example. Does he see women as important or valuable? Not at all. Basically, the only value women have for Andrew Tate is that he can have sex with them or exploit them for his business. Perhaps he also believes they could clean his house. Otherwise he basically sees women as useless. Is it not obvious how this disrespects the gifts of women? Is it not obvious how much a misogynist like Tate is missing out on? How distorted his view of women and femininity as a whole is? If you cannot make a long list of all the ways that femininity and women are important, you are as delusional as someone who thinks masculinity or men have no value. Notice that it’s often SD stage Green people who will say “X person doesn’t respect women” and label them as a misogynist. Most of the backlash to Tate was from Green. That is because Green is promoting not just gender equality but feminine energy. Here is a good example of what I am talking about: Notice the reverence Green has for femininity. Notice the respect. It is important, even sacred. This does not mean that masculinity or femininity are always equally valuable in all situations. Harsher survival conditions do tend to favor masculinity out of necessity. But it’s precisely because masculinity can get so out of hand and unbalanced that we need femininity.

I find they can complement each other. The reality is that your contemplation will not be that effective if you are lost in a bunch of survival monkey-mind. Meditation and calming the nervous system can help with this. It gets you into a better state from which to process and receive insight. Of course there are other ways too. I find just taking a nice, long walk gets me in the right state. Leo has mentioned how he likes driving. I agree in general that the real benefits seem to be more from the contemplation itself than just purely shutting off the mind.

@Kimka I was vegan for all the typical reasons. Lasted about two years. Eventually got back on meat because it seemed healthier for me. Since getting eating meat again, I feel like my consciousness and spiritual understanding has done nothing but skyrocket. Granted, I don’t think eating CAUSED these improvements per say. I was also making big improvements as a vegan. Rather it just honestly seems to not matter. It seems the bottleneck is not specifically what you eat, but whether you are healthy. Health is the key. And there’s nothing I’ve seen nutritionally that has convinced me that meat is inherently unhealthy as long as you don’t overdo it and eat high quality meat. Ethics is a different question. We could say that if someone is so selfish that they are unable to put aside their human biases and extend their circle of concern to animals, that would indicate a lack of development. And so I see veganism as a response to stage Orange industrial food practices that were heavily biased towards human survival and lacked empathy. These practices required humans to objectify animals in order to succeed.

@Chives99 At the absolute level that is correct. But I would be careful about conflating the absolute and relative nature of things. Most people who say things like this have not actually become conscious of Absolute Perfection and what that really implies.

@r0ckyreed Personally I don’t see much of a contradiction in my own meditation practice. My morning sits are easily where I get much of my best contemplative work done. It’s definitely not just a mental blank. But I am meditating. I’ve even named it “contemplative meditation” because that is what it feels like.

Not at all. You’re just young, horny and have some social anxiety. It’s not the end of the world. I’m sure a lot of people on this forum can relate, including myself. You can in fact improve this area of your life. Don’t let what I’m saying discourage you. If I actually thought you were fucked for life I wouldn’t be writing this.

Dude, dating is an inherently a social activity. There is no success in dating without socializing. You might as well try to become a world-class swimmer while standing on dry land. You’re not dating a rock. You’re dating a human. If you don’t like people and don’t like having friends, that’s kind of a problem. And it’s probably not healthy. The whole point of being a social species is that we benefit from our social arrangements. That’s survival. Granted, if you’ve had shitty friends in the past, that may have rightfully traumatized you. But from your description it sounds like your own insecurities more than anything else. You’re gonna have to deal with that.

This feels like a very stage Yellow science to me. Notice the emphasis not only on complex systems, but also epistemology and ontology. In the future every scientist will have to take seeming questions of philosophy much more seriously.

It’ll be a mixed bag. He has a lot fans. Regardless, I’m mostly referring to our attitude on the forum, not Twitter. Dealing with people new to existential inquiry is kind of like dealing with a children. What is the appropriate amount of encouragement vs correction for a child? And when is each appropriate? Such debates have been going on forever. But I tend to lean towards encouragement for newbies. Newbies make more mistakes, but they often need more support. If you just pummel them with how stupid they are, that’s unlikely to be an effective strategy for improvement.

Well it seems like he is trying. So he deserves credit there. We should be encouraging and helping anyone who is sincerely making attempts, not just ridiculing them.

Yes. Welcome to survival. No. The reality for most people is you will have to work for somebody until they are probably close to 30. You don’t have the skills, experience, resources, self-awareness, maturity or business acumen to succeed in building a conscious business before then. You will get destroyed. You want probably about 50-100k saved before you leap into entrepreneurship. That’s about will it will take at a bare minimum to get a full-time business off the ground. It might even be closer to 250-500k. Hence why people seek investors. The faster you want it, the more likely you are to cut corners in terms of quality and / or ethics. And you still will likely not succeed. Exceptions of course exist. But they are exceptions. Duh. Hence why most people don’t invest. You have to work towards that. So get a job. Notice that you can make 50-80k a year in many entry level jobs with NO RISK and NO startup capital. You just get to build skills and make cash while the majority of business crash and burn. This is an incredible opportunity. Yes, because that’s a pragmatic strategy that will actually work in most cases. Unlike chasing get-rich-quick schemes internet marketers are exploiting you with. No, it’s because the point of college is not supposed to be financial freedom. It’s employment. This is obvious. You need to build a foundation. College and employment can be that foundation. 1) Get employed, ideally in an area that you feel you may be connected to your life purpose 2) Build skills and a vision for a conscious business 3) Save money and keep your expenses low 4) Slowly begin splitting your time between being employed and working on your LP / conscious business, using the money you’ve saved. 5) Fully transfer out of employment and full time into your LP 6) Save enough money from your business to start investing, ideally with conscious investments (not crypto-NFT nonsense). 7) Coast off the income from your investments and business Obviously that’s a general guideline. You will have to adjust it to a degree. But that’s how you do it. Notice this will probably take you a decade. Unlikely. Hence why most college kids are poor. That’s a tradeoff. But it’s a good tradeoff because at that age you probably won’t succeed in anything else anyway. Beware of people selling you fantasies of “beating the system”. More likely is that the system will beat you. You gotta keep your expenses low and make more money at your job. Which is why you need skills. You will not get a high income without skills or without going into some shady industry. Which means you will never be able to create enough of a gap between savings and your expenses without skills.

This sounds more Orange than Red to me. Orange is easily capable of all these things, including supporting Trump.

Are you in school somewhere? At age 19, you should just be focused on making friends. That’s how most people your age will date and find someone. The reality is you need more social experience. That’s the key. How you do that is mostly irrelevant as long as it’s ethical. Yes, life is hard. If you are actually suicidal, seek professional help. Otherwise, this is an insecurity you going to have to face and deprogram. This may be a long process. 5’1 might make things harder for you. But it’s not at all hopeless if you’re looking for a partner. Well then you may need to create some opportunities. Maybe you need to move. Maybe you need to pick up a hobby. Or get a new job. Whatever. Passivity and helplessness will not solve this problem. Or really any problem in life. You don’t need to do cold approach. You need friends. There are many ways to meet people. Notice that 99% of people have never done cold approach and yet most of them still have a social life. And that’s why you need more social experience. Notice that feeling helpless about this paralyzes you from taking action, which leads to you not gaining experience, which then leads to you feeling clueless, which then leads to you feeling helpless around taking action, and on and on the loop goes… Break the loop.

@Wisebaxter Sounds like some normal human stuff. Of course you are going to worry how others perceive you, basically your entire life hinges on that perception. I wouldn’t expect to be free from all that just off of one insight. Behavioral change can take time. You’ve got years of habits engrained. Keep doing the work.

I think most of us who follow Beau recognize he leans Green, but here’s another example of it: Notice especially here the increased construct-awareness. And notice that this is not a matter of political opinion, it’s a matter of consciousness! This is why Green is further up the spiral than Blue or Orange, despite the outrage from the political right and their claims of political bias. It is NOT political bias! Green is literally more conscious of the constructions of their own mind. Which is not to say that Green cannot also be biased or hold poor political opinions. Notice also that even Beau has not gone “all the way” down the social construction rabbit hole. He is further down than people at Blue or Orange, but he still is unconsciously giving many of his own constructions a pass. If Beau increases his awareness of his constructions, I would then start to peg him at Yellow. A big part of Yellow is construct-awareness cranked way up from the previous stages.

@Thought Art Also meta-balance! The balance of being balanced vs unbalanced. Sometimes unbalances are okay and part of a larger balance.

Well it just depends on your time frame. In the longest possible time frame, it’s literally impossible not to be constantly going up. You could not fail if you tried. So don’t worry about it. More practically speaking, just do the best you can. Keep studying and improving your skills. Be open to feedback. When you fail, that becomes an opportunity to get better by seeing what you did wrong. Always keep an eye open for this and how things could be improved.

This sounds like stage Orange nonsense. In the very long-term, yes you should strive to be constantly moving up. And the goods news is that is always the case, even if it takes a couple lifetimes. In the short run though, all kinds of negative things can happen. You will have bad days. Things will not go as planned. You will fail and lose. And none of that is a mistake. You were never supposed to constantly be moving up. You were never supposed to always win or succeed. Such an assumption that life is supposed to be that way is already a major error. But stage Orange tends to be blind to this since it’s so focused on achievement.

@Eternal Unity The way you overcome the fear of being banned is by becoming a wise person who follows the basic rules and contributes positively to the forum. Then you will not have to worry about being banned. It’s pretty simple.

Unless you want to die, then yes you will. To a degree. The question is only ever to what degree caution is necessary. It’s never a binary “this is perfectly safe” or “this is dangerous and will automatically kill you”.

@Marvelllious you sound sane to me. I would focus on more traditional personal development for now.