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A fantastic example of Green (David Pakman) doing a takedown of Blue religiosity. Key Memes: Secularism, Moral / Ethical Relativism, Scientific Progress, Rationality You could argue this is Tier 2 thinking from Joe Rogan, but I'm not so sure. For me, it lacks the true Spiral Wizardly of a solidly Tier 2 take. But he does correctly identify some of the issues with Green / Orange rationalism. Regardless, Pakman's take is essentially textbook Rational Green / Orange. He describes how secularism can work, religion is quaint and people can generate their own moral compass in life.

I see your point. He is straw-manning both sides and making them seem ridiculous, then proposing what he sees as a more reasonable, middle of the road perspective. This could lead to false equivalencies between both sides, rather than seeing how one could be more correct than the other. That’s a valid insight. At the same time, to always take the side of progressives or conservatives is also incorrect. We need to be able to see how both sides may be getting it wrong, while simultaneously holding the bigger picture of how modern progressives tend to be more evolved than conservatives. This is not some kind of false centrism, this is deeply necessary for intelligent Tier 2 politics. I am also not speaking about just moral relativism, although of course that is part of it. I am speaking about the operating system of the Green psyche and its tendency to relativize everything. Spiral Dynamics speaks on emotional maturity in the sense that it models ego development, which includes emotional maturity to a degree. People lower down the Spiral often act less emotionally mature than those higher up the Spiral, although not always. Belief systems often reflect someone’s emotional maturity. Also, Lex being able to talk to all sides of the political spectrum does not necessitate solidly Yellow development. One of the hallmarks of Green is Pluralism and seeking new perspectives. Lex may have some Yellow, but I’m not sure he is solidly there. I could be wrong. I have not done a thorough investigation of his work so I don’t have a strong opinion on this. I am just going off the few videos I have seen of him.

@martins name You may be conflating excessive relativism that often happens at SD Green with Yellow meta, multi-perspectivalism. Remember, it’s really post-modern deconstruction that seeks to argue that there is no objective truth and that therefore nothing can be said to be better or worse than anything else. Your grievances therefore really seem to be with Green postmodernism more than anything else. Part of what breaks you out of excessive relativism and brings you into Tier 2 is understanding deeply the trap you are talking about, while also not demonizing relativism. Also, remember that very few people are genuinely solid in Tier 2. If you think you are listening to someone who is solidly Tier 2, the likelyhood is they are not. Personally, I see Lex Friedman as more Green than Yellow.

@Carl-Richard You’re definitely on the right track. Unless your actual goal is to be a competitive marathon runner, forget standard cardio. Waste of time. I prefer to get my cardio via activities like variable resistance training, walking, sauna or cold exposure. If someone insists on during more traditional cardio like biking / swimming / running, than the tier list goes like this: 1) REHIT 2) HIIT 3) Zone 2 The challenge with REHIT is that it tends to be difficult to actually correctly implement. Thus HIIT becomes the pragmatic winner. But I still prefer REHIT if I can get it.

Sounds like Photoreading. Did you have success with this method?

It’s not contradictory at all. Life is what God imagines it to be. God (you) imagines a brain, chelators, heavy metals, symptoms, atoms, Leo’s advice, a forum, etc. And so it is.

Except that's not what the long term research says about veganism. Nor are you likely to get "almost all" your nutrients. So your binary choice is false.

Correct. It is vegan strictly in the sense that it is not an animal-product. If you have another definition of vegan, okay. But this is the most commonly used definition. We don’t know exactly because it hasn’t been invented yet. But we can imagine that with sufficient research, humans will eventually synthesize something in a laboratory that is far superior for human health than anything we are eating now, including meat. That’s only because no one has GMO’d something well enough to be considered “food”. Yet. It should be obvious that what we consider “food” is completely relative and not objective at all. When the day comes that a company lab grows something that is superior for your health than traditional food, we will start to consider it “food”. Or we just will discard the idea of food altogether.

Yes, my decision to go vegan. My point wasn’t that theoretically you couldn’t be optimally healthy and vegan. It’s possible that in the far distant future we will GMO perfect lab food and all be vegan. But the reality for 99% people right now is that they will fail to do so. Even if they happen to be the minority that is extremely diligent. Optimal health is hard enough to achieve even when you do everything right, let alone when you handicap yourself with an inherently nutrient deficient diet like veganism.

@ZenAlex I’m an ex-vegan. It was a trash diet healthwise and did not work for me at all. Some people may be able to make it work with supplements if they’re very good about it, but I still wouldn’t recommend it. Going back to meat has been glorious.

@MarkKol stop prioritizing RDAs and just get bloodwork done. Bloodwork with a competent functional medicine practitioner will answer the majority of questions you have about what to eat. RDAs are just basic guidelines at best. Key indicators to check as far as saturated fat: LDL cholesterol, triglycerides and ApoB. Get a lipro(a) test too, although that one is more just genetic luck.

Up to you really. You could go to a functional / integrative medicine practitioner or a naturopath and they would most likely do it. A standard General Practitioner might as well. You could probably get that covered under health insurance. You could also go a more non-traditional route like using InsideTracker or a LifeForce physician. Not going to be covered by insurance though. Do your research, figure out the pros and cons and then make a choice.

@Insightful27 Don’t really know. I feel that multivitamins are mostly a waste of money anyway, they overload the body with too many vitamins it can’t absorb. Better strategy would be to get blood work and supplement individually for what you need, or just eat a better diet.

@Insightful27 Best best is to hunt for the highest quality sources you can find and then test your own levels. If some ambitious entrepreneur on this forum wants to invent an at home testing kit for heavy metals in your supplements, that be rad.

In the long-term, sure. More community living is probably a good thing so people are less lonely. But that transition is going to take decades to accomplish, if at all. In the mean time, people still need to date.

She makes some good points but it’s a bit lacking as far as practical solutions. The reality is that society is not structured around tribal living and will probably not be in our lifetime. It’s not clear how that would even work given the complexity of the modern world. Unless you’re going to be a Green hippie living in an intentional community, you’re going to have to continue living in a non-tribal society. Which means you need modern, non-tribal solutions for your dating / social needs. The best approach is to figure out what your needs are and delegate them to all different kinds of people in your life. Don’t just rely on your partner for everything. Teal has another video on resourcing people that would be relevant here.

You should be so lucky to have a career successful enough in politics that you even become governor or mayor. You are worrying about something that you are not even remotely close to achieving. This is an irrational fear. Then why can’t you apply that same logic to this scenario? And if you really can’t see yourself being able to handle such a situation, maybe you shouldn’t be governor or a mayor. Leave it to someone else who has the guts for it. Maybe you can clean their office instead and let that be your career in politics, sounds promising. Then you will have made an honest mistake. No one is going to fault you for advocating for victims of mass shootings. And if you’re really still scared, then resolve to continually sharpen your judgment overtime. Work and work and work on discerning truth. That is the best safeguard against what you are describing. Not running away.

I think you are psyching yourself out here. The kind of situations you are describing are pretty rare. In most cases, the most that will be asked of you will be to vote on a criminal justice bill. In which case you will weigh the pros and cons and come to the best decision you can, just like everyone else. Do you really think you can’t handle doing that? Do you really not trust your future judgment? Do you really think it’s worth throwing away a fruitful career you are passionate about and can make a difference in because of some potential vague “what if” scenario? What are you really afraid of here?

@NightHawkBuzz why would this be required of you to work in politics? Politicians are not responsible for dealing with crime and punishment.

Which platform to post on is less important than actually having something of value to say. What about your message makes it unique or worth listening to?

Did she have some sort of external device like a NES?

According their reports, it’s just enough to offset the hormone loss from the calorie restriction he is on. It’s not meant to push him above normal ranges, like with bodybuilders. I do think this could be an argument against the caloric restriction he is doing. But so far he seems to be managing fine. We will have to see if it crumbles on him. This is a gross effect. Yes, gross effects can be felt. But you cannot feel extremely subtle effects, like the build up of atherosclerosis. Proof is that the vast majority of people who have atherosclerosis have no clue about it. They eat like trash and think everything is going well. If you claim you have an extra level of sensitivity beyond normal humans, fine. Good for you. But that is not 99.9% of people. 99.9% of people need testing and data. That is true to a degree. But you can still find many doctors who are deeply systemic and evolved in the health industry. And even doctors who are overly reductionistic still understand quite a lot in their field.

@koops I’d recommend not getting caught up in the conspiracy theories and anti-elitism around the WEF.

This is what I've been contemplating lately. Your body's feedback system is not really attuned for long-term, subtle effects on the system, like the slow build of atherosclerosis over 40 years. Hence why people drop dead of a heart attack and have no idea. But the feedback system IS highly tuned for acute situations, like stepping on a nail or breaking a bone. That you will definitely most likely feel. The problem becomes when we have long-term goals like longevity, but are relying on short-term, acute feedback. This cannot work. Undoubtably. So far it seems like he has actually been able to put on a ton of muscle and strength. Will be extremely interesting to see where he ends up in 30-40 years.

No you cannot. You can only tell the most gross, obvious effects. More subtle effects will completely allude you. The reality for 99.9% people is they have no idea whether the supplements they are taking are doing what they intend for them to do. The natural feedback system of the body that you can tune into by “listening” is not robust enough. Unless you are a Vipassana interoceptive master or extremely gifted psychic, your intuition is not that strong. And even for these people I would have doubts. To know what effects supplements are having on your body requires not just listening, but rigorous testing. Listening to how you feel is just one piece of data among many other potential pieces of data. It by itself is often incomplete. Maybe. But the point is to use data to sift through these sort of hunches. This is the essence of science. Wellness is too complex for any one human to fully understand. I understand the point. Obviously they don’t have perfect information and could be making errors, even serious errors. But consider the alternative, which is that it only seems impossible from your POV because you lack the level of data, testing and experts on staff that he has.