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@ivankiss I definitely had a similar experience. I was involved in the PUA community and had pretty good "success". But it just wasn't that appealing after a while. I'd highly recommend reading a book called Slow Sex by Diana Richardson. Totally changed my perspective on sex and what I was looking for.

@MrBON Just because what she is saying might be true to a certain degree, doesn’t mean you’re not biased. You still came on a forum and felt the need to post this video, trying to prove your point of view that women have unrealistic standards. And why might you do that? Not because it’s true. You posted this video because you’re struggling with dating and you need to justify it. Even your language like “legendary roast” shows that you’re getting a certain satisfaction out of this. In this case, it’s the feeling that it’s okay that your dating life is not what you want. Of course, it is okay. There’s no shame if you’re struggling with dating. But be aware this is not an objective analysis you’re making here.

The path forward for undeveloped countries is for developed countries to stop trying to “develop” them.

I think you've got it completely backwards. If anything, "undeveloped countries" are the reason the planet hasn't gone under yet. Economic growth does not create all the amazing things you think it does. The vast majority of the material wealth is captured at the top, it does not increase happiness and it cannot be decoupled from environmental pressures. If anything, economic growth is the cause of our social problems. If everyone lived like we do in the developed world, the whole planet is screwed. Of course, it's not even possible for the undeveloped world to "catch up" because them being undeveloped is how developed countries come into existence. You have to exploit someone in order to become a developed country. It's a duality that demands someone is rich and someone is poor. So no, I don't buy into the development / growth narrative. It's also extremely arrogant to assume that we are ahead of undeveloped countries and they must "become like us". That's the colonizer narrative. If anything, the focus should be on degrowing western economies, not dragging undeveloped countries into our mistakes.

No I think your intuition is correct. I was just talking with @LfcCharlie4 about this. Money allows you to increase the scale of human civilization. But when facing an ecological crisis, that's not exactly what you want. We need to operate within conscious limits and leave the planet better than we arrived. The other main problem I see with money is that it becomes a proxy for relationship, community & trust. It's no wonder then, as we fail to find real belonging, that we begin searching for in coping mechanisms like excess consumerism. Which ironically creates more environmental pressures and the need for more money. I think it can be done. But I also think it'll take time. We're not ready for that level of relationship & trust just yet.

You're welcome. The only problem is that even if you get rid of your credit cards, you're still talking about the vast majority of the money supply that is created as interest-bearing debt. So there's really no escaping this unless you plan on not using money at all. And even then it's debatable whether you could really isolate yourself from the effect of this. The only real option to me is systemic change.

He’s right that it is essentially a ponzi scheme. But he didn’t mention how interest bearing-debt money plays a huge factor as well in endless growth and the ponzi scheme nature of capitalism. This is a decent video explaining the basics:

Thank you Nahm for sharing this. I feel like most of us just argue with Leo on this forum and don't often express gratitude. And yet his work has helped likely everyone here. I'd love to see more Leo appreciation in the future. It's so fascinating because she's saying a lot of the same things we talk about here, i.e surrender, forgiveness, seeing beyond just temporary pleasure and seeking true happiness. I suppose it really comes down to the intention behind those words. Curious what your interpretation was.

Love that you brought up the law of abundance. I'm very familiar with this kind of thinking. Abraham-Hicks was one of my biggest influences. I've done all the "money inner work" and "prosperity consciousness" training one could probably do. I do think it's good to do. However, I don't see a real understanding of economics with a lot of prosperity consciousness people. I believe they're expressing a half-true that needs more nuance. Yes, we want abundance. But how? How do we achieve it? It is done through accumulating my individual wealth and holding onto it? Because if that's the strategy I am going to use, that means everyone else is going to do the same thing. Or is wealth achieved through sharing? I think sharing represents real abundance. That's a level of security that I cannot achieve on my own or when people are competing against either other. And I mean real sharing. Like private ownership needs to be questioned. Also, how do we measure wealth? Is a mansion wealth? Is lots of money even wealth? What does it mean to be wealthy? So I find it's just not that simple. Yeah the way I envision it, it would almost be like conscious inflation. Except more aggressive than what is usually argued for. And tacked on from the moment money is created. Yeah that's exactly it. Keep it movin'. There's no shortage of money. It could easily be funded in numerous ways if that's what we want. Well first we need to understand why money exists. The explanation economists give is that money exists because it's more efficient than barter. Money allows trade to happen much more quickly and effectively. Perhaps this is somewhat true. However, I find this to be a massive projection by economists, who assume that pre-modern mankind felt the same scarcity of time and resources that we do now. It also doesn't line up with historical records, which show that barter was extremely rare. Most indigenous scholars would tell you that gift economy was the way things were mostly done, not barter. So what this means to me is that growth and money are tied together. In order to have a global economy of billions of people, you need a tool. A tool that acts as a proxy for the trust and relationship that would have been present in small, tribal gift economies. That tool is, of course, money. Money allows us to have an exchange with very little trust or relationship with the person we are doing an exchange with. I do not have to know my grocery store clerk, my amazon delivery guy or just about anyone these days. All we really need to know, is does this person have money? There may be certain circumstances where this doesn't totally hold. For instance, getting into a business partnership might be a counter-example of what I'm saying. But by in large, the level of trust and relationship required in a money-society is far lower. This then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. The more people use money, the more relationships are eroded, and the more money becomes necessary. So how do you end money? Simple. You need people to deeply trust each other again. You need real relationships, not just transactional ones. Relationships where people feel free to give without any expectation of how they will receive because the relationship and trust is so strong. Which, by the way, is one of the tenets of prosperity consciousness. More practically, I think it starts with re-localizing a lot of economic activity. Instead of one global economy, you would have many robust and resilient local economies that are interdependent which each other. This allows for a smaller scale of activity where it's possible to rebuild that level of relationship / trust. You could start with local currencies that decay in value. If that proved successful, then you could transition off currency and into timebanking / LETS systems. And if they worked, then you could drop even that. Essentially, you have to baby-step people back into a gift economy. Eventually you'd have no need for money. Admittedly, this is all very theoretical. Local currencies have had their problems getting off the ground. So I'm not claiming it's a simple thing to achieve. Also, it's possible that money continues to be a useful tool for quite a while. The goal should not be to get rid of money, but to focus on rebuilding trust, relationship and community. Then if money disappears as a byproduct of that, great. Otherwise if it still serves, keep it. Money is just a tool and we don't need to fight for or against it.

@LfcCharlie4 Good thread idea. Let's get our craziest ideas out there. My list: The vast majority of people would happier living communally Individual accumulation of wealth is counterproductive and an impossible strategy for achieving abundance Money should decay in value over time instead of holding value We should pay people to do nothing, i.e UBI Life was not just a brutal struggle to survive prior to modern society Slow, manual labor and creation is good for the soul All things are alive and with consciousness that you can communicate with Angels, spirit guides and aliens are "real" Earthing, aka grounding, is real Instantaneous physical healing is possible for all disease Eventually we will not need money Eventually we will not need military Eventually we will not need law enforcement Show me how I'm wrong, I'm open to it.

Because when things aren't regulated, wall street execs will end up fucking up things even worse. Look what happened when they repealed Glass-Steagall. That's not to say it's right what is happening on wall street. It's not. It's super shitty that a bunch of people make billions of dollars largely just gambling and rigging the government. And it needs to stop. But a peasant revolt of people doing the same thing is not going to stop it. Although it's obviously drawing attention to the issue, which is good. Really you need to change the paradigms and systems that allow for something like wall street in the first place. All that said, I have to admit I find it kind of hilarious. A bunch of reddit nerds bankrupting a wall street hedge fund? We are in an alternate universe right now.

I was making more a general point about holistic, regenerative agricultural. Not necessarily the method described in the video. Yes I’m speaking of the west. I don’t know what the situation is in Africa. Farming certainly can make money. But in general, jobs requiring manual labor are seen as less valuable, more replaceable and therefore lower status. This might not be true in certain contexts as obviously social status is a fluid thing. I’m generalizing. Also, in general it’s still more profitable to run large scale, low labor industrial farms than small, high labor regenerative farms. That could change and I believe it will as industrial agricultural continues to reveal itself as unsustainable. But we need to be aware of the current incentives that are in place.

@Vrubel There’s tons of healing methods out there for agricultural. Biodynamic farming, permaculture, one-straw etc. The issue up to this point has largely been one of economics and labor. Real holistic solutions, while extremely productive, tend to require more labor and don’t scale like industrial agriculture. While it is possible, we are talking a significant portion of the population which would have to return to working directly in agriculture. And most people do not have those skills because they’ve never been taught. These jobs are also not highly incentivized by society. You are incentivized via economics and social status to chase jobs in things like finance, engineering, being a CEO, etc. Essentially, “knowledge workers” are at the top. And in an economic system where your financial situation is literally life or death, this is no joke. Thus, we still see a lot of monocultures and cash farms. There’s also the issue of acquiring land for these kind of things, which can be very challenging given the high start up costs. I don’t mean to shit on the video you posted, I love that these ideas are being shared. I’m just pointing out the systemic blocks to actualizing something like this.

@StarStruck My interpretation is that he's referring to the fact that the Two are actually One. The connection between all things.

Most definitely. He’s charismatic and knows how to be entertaining. No I don’t get a sense he cares too much either. Many of his fans do believe he has gone crazy though since he started posting about nonduality. He was just a normal fitness guy before, kind of a shock for them . For sure. 10 years from now, who knows. It’s fascinating that we have the ability to document our journey online now for everyone to see. I say that he is addicted just because he is sleeping around quite a lot. I have no problem with it, but in my experience guys do not sleep around that much unless they’ve got at least a minor addicted. He also admitted in an earlier video that he felt he was addicted to sex and premasati yoga was his way of trying to break that.

@Nahm I believe Connor has had some real awakening experiences. And I respect that he’s been willing to destroy his reputation and alienate his followers for sharing this kind of content. That said, I’d argue he is still very much addicted to sex. Or at least the validation that comes from it. It doesn’t feel to me that he has fully integrated his experiences yet. Which is fine. It’s just going to take him some time. I expect to see more big changes in his life.

@Axiomatic Check your bro-bias homie. I’m sure the experiences you’ve had are real. And it certainly sounds like unconscious behavior. But be careful about extrapolating those experiences and jumping to conclusions.

@Keef What is your field of interest? And what is your experience in it? Often it's not possible to specialize so early.

@cle103 First of all, it's shocking that you have almost a 100k saved at age 23. You're definitely in a minority in that respect. My perspective is that it depends on a lot of variables. Do you reasonably think work will slow down enough in the future that you'll have time to do your art? A full time job can give you security, but if it's so time consuming then that'll be an issue. Also, how much are your expenses? Can you reduce those expenses in anyway? Also, how talented are you as a artist? Do you really need to go to school, or could you just start now? These are always tricky situations. And they require a lot of in the moment, case-by-case thinking.

@tuckerwphotography I have the same questions whenever I'm channeling for someone or I'm seeing someone else channel. Even channels can be biased. In my experience, it's mostly just a matter of degree. In this case, I'd ask for more information. What does "an inside job" mean? Are we talking reptilian overlords? Or is it perhaps more of a metaphorical inside job, as in "you create your own reality" kind of thing? The subconscious is tricky. It doesn't always speak in a literal way which is why our minds can have trouble understanding its messages. We also need to understand that we form our beliefs based on what serves us. Perhaps that belief serves your friend in some way. Really, we can't know for sure. All evidence disproving or proving your friend right can be countered. So what does you own intuition say?

I’ll add to this that the nature of systems also complicates this mess of why people do what they do. Systems can make “good” people do “bad” things. For instance, all of us are using cell phones and / or computers right now. Which means that we are participating exploiting cheap labor in third world countries that create them. Does this make us bad people? Or are our hands largely tied due to the more meta-level constraints of the systems? Even if we try to not participate in exploitation, we find it almost impossible to some degree. This is what systems do. They have a life of their own, so to speak. So as much as we talk about people needing to “develop” their morality, I’d also like to see an emphasis on addressing the systems that create the rules of the game to begin with. Corruption is an illusion. An illusion we may be experiencing, but an illusion nonetheless. It’s not who people really are.

@Dark_White Yes, but you have to understand what the purpose of a ritual is. The magic is not necessarily in the ritual itself. The magic is in your intention. A ritual that works for someone else may not work for you. And vice-versa. You have to really believe in it. If you just blindly copy other people's rituals, don't expect the same results.

@The Buddha My experience is that magic is essentially just manifestation / energy work. There's no one specific way to do it. It's more about your intentions.

@Dark_White There is no technique. It doesn't work like that in my experience. You just do it. Quiet your mind and surrender any attachments. Your job is just to rely your images, words, feelings etc that come through. "You" don't do anything.

@Ajay0 Yes it should. Notice how normalized killing animals or other forms of life. If someone found a bug in their apartment, most of them wouldn't hesitate for a half a second to squash it. Then we wonder why we have mass species extinction going on. Humans have become such the dominant species on this planet that there's not even a close second. But we've yet to surrender to the wisdom of harmony. We've yet to let the consequences of our actions really penetrate our hearts. The old stories that normalize all if this are still too strong for the moment.