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1) That's quite a strong claim. If so, then you should be working to prove what you are saying through the peer-review process. 2) Most people do not have the medical / scientific training to evaluate the validity of what you are saying. They do not even know what ApoB is, let alone all the intricacies of biochemistry. So basically you are asking people to just trust you.

Sure. But don't go too far here. On the whole, your prospects for dating are far superior if you are better looking. Your looks will screen out women who feel like you are out of their league. But they will include a lot more than they will exclude. Which is not to say that being good looking doesn't have its challenges. Obviously good looks are not pure upside.

@enchanted I'd splurge for extra travel time and some things I've been wanting to experiment with for my health. Maybe upgrade my apartment or buy a house. Get some new clothes. Otherwise I'd change nothing. Yes, I'd continue to work because I like my work. And I would just give away whatever money I felt I didn't need to maintain my middle class lifestyle.

You keep your mouth shut. Somethings are just not meant to be said. Also, you can find intelligent people to have discussions with. But you have to be selective about who you open up to and when.

This post is basically what therapy looks like, so you're already half-way there. In seriousness, I've done years of traditional talk-therapy and found it tremendously helpful. I still have more than enough ambition. And whatever ambition I may have lost I don't miss at all. But yes, you may have to give up whatever SD Orange fantasies you have about what you want your life to look like. Ultimately this is a good thing. Giving up toxic programming is the whole point of therapy, but of course your mind will resist. I should also mention that I believe I had an exceptional therapist. So your results may vary if your therapist is subpar.

Sounds like you're definitely getting it. "Rolls off" is a good description of how it should feel.

@Butters To actually understand from a Tier 2 POV is very different from being able to put on a performance as a character in a show. Acting is not understanding or necessarily integration. Although theoretically if actor were to really do his research on a character being displayed from a specific spiral stage, he might gain some insights into that stage.

@ActualizedJohn I've not done 5-meo, but I would say absolutely do not feel pressured into doing it sooner than you feel ready. Especially if you think there is a significant risk to your physical health. God isn't going anywhere and you're very young, unlikely to kick the bucket any time soon. Plenty of time for spirituality. At the same time, with something like this there will always be some fear / hesitancy. So use your best judgment to discern between the two. Be as clear as possible about your intentions no matter what choice you make. Life is all about the balance of risk / reward, there's no free decisions. Also congratulations on landing the gig, sounds like a big win for you career-wise.

@Max_V I remember talking with him on the forum, seemed like a great guy with big dreams. Had no idea he was struggling with such mental health issues. Truly sad to hear about this. I hope his loved ones receive their closure.

Not only does it work, it’s really the only pragmatic solution that exists. What else is he going to do? Just stew in his bitterness? I prefer to keep my personal life out of my posts.

Saying love attracts love is a bit of an oversimplification, yes. But really ask yourself if want you want is to be an abusive man.

You have to actually start experiencing love from women. The love heals your resentment. Yes, it’s a bit of vicious cycle. Because when you are in the kind of mindset you are describing, you are more likely to not develop loving relationships. Which just enhances your bitterness. It’s like physics. Love tends to attract love. You are not stuck though. This cycle is not 100% solid or impossible to break. You don’t even have to heal all your trauma around this issue to start seeing progress. If you keep putting yourself out there, you might be surprised what happens. So here are some practical steps: 1) See that your desire for revenge is about you, and you not getting what you want. It has nothing to do ultimately with women. 2) Get in touch with that feeling and see that underneath that desire to hurt women is actually your desire to be loved by them 3) See that this same desire for revenge is likely holding you back from receiving the love you want 4) Study up on the basics of male / female psychology, male dating improvement and general personal development. Fix your style, get a social circle, hit the gym etc. 5) Keep putting yourself out there and facing whatever fears / traumas you might have around rejection If you do all this, you will expand your capacity to love women. And some women might just love you back.

I have no problem granting that there exist oral tradition and parts of yoga that exist outside of documentation. But most scholars would agree that yoga is at least several thousand years old. Are you going to argue that people have been doing the modern asanas we see in studios and classes today, but no one bothered to write it down until the last hundred years or so? Patanjali was a Siddha. How come he didn't write about it in the Yoga Sutras? Why didn't he include the all-powerful downward dog? Whatever very traditional asanas do exist, you mostly won't find them practiced in most modern yoga environments. All of this though still somewhat misses the point. I don't particularly care if people want to do a newer, more modern form of yoga. I like evolution. But I have concerns about the practice, modern or not. Those concerns are spelled out in my earlier posts in this thread. It is NOT irrelevant at all! That would be akin to saying you don't need to worry about overdosing on a psychedelic trip. Or jumping out a window. Or whether you got your substance from some shady drug dealer or a reputable source. Or how to integrate and interpret your experience. Do not ignore the human domain of all this. Realize that whatever experiences you've had with asanas, you are in the vast minority. Most people practicing modern asanas are not becoming highly God-realized. I have had awakening experiences just lying in my bed. But I am not going to turn that into a method and start teaching it. Also, I can almost guarantee that we could change whatever asanas you are doing and you would have still achieved similar, if not better results. So be mindful of what you ascribe your results to. It's easy to think "these asanas are super special / spiritual" when they are in fact quite arbitrary.

Do more basic, worldly things that require the wisdom of Blue and Orange. For instance you could work at getting a well-paying job. Or raise a family. Or even work towards starting a business of some kind. Success in these areas will necessitate discipline, personal responsibility, ambition, focus etc. Also consider studying more basic personal development. Books like 7 Habits of Highly Successful People and Think and Grow Rich are some classics. Leo’s book list has a whole bunch of these.

Yes I've seen someone claim a "walk-in" IRL. What to make of it I think is still beyond my understanding.

That analogy seems to aligns with what they are saying. For instance, they mentioned that if they both leave the both simultaneously, the body apprently will just fall to the floor. I will have to contemplate it further.

There are four parts for anyone following: Part 4 is maybe the most interesting in terms of looking at the metaphysics of all this. They appear to share a pretty typical New Age view, which is that humanity to going through a spiritual evolution in order to meet the collective challenges we are facing. Interesting though that they emphasize that this evolution is "slow", as apposed to many New Agers who assume this process will be extremely rapid. Also, tons of respect for Dr. Mishlove for how he conducted this interview. His open-mindedness and warmth made for an excellent conversation. All of them had great chemistry together.

It's truly wild. Parts 2-4 gets even deeper.

I'd agree with that. But in this specific case, that seems like an oversimplification. If we take their story at face value, what they are describing is not just a pastiche of identities. They are able control different parts of the physical body, enter and exit at will, have different memories, skills and feel each other's presence. They even have a different voice. If let myself drop the social exception of having to be the "same person", I will still not look anything like this. So it's much more extreme than anything most people experience. Also, they don't appear to have classic dissociative disorder. So what other explanations are left? We could argue they are making it all up, but that also is a weak explanation. What would they have to gain by making something like this up?

I’m inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt that there is something spiritual happening here. It is not mental illness. They seem too well-adjusted and intelligent for that. I don’t quite understand the intricacies of how it works. Clearly it’s a non-dual phenomenon.

1) I have already made a suggestion for you to read and you have not done so. Read Yoga Body by Mark Singleton. Read Patanjali’s Yoga Sutras and notice the distinct lack of modern asanas. It’s not until the Hatha Yoga Pradipika that we start to get modern asanas, but even here it’s minimal compared to what we have now. Most of the modern asanas we see people practicing don’t come online until people like Krishnamacharya, Swami Kuvalayananda, Yogendra, Iyengar, Desikachar, Pattabhi Jois and Indra Devi, Bishnu Charan Ghosh and Bikram Choudhury come along. Feel free to fact check all this with GPT. 2) It’s not necessary for you to give up all of Hatha Yoga. If you feel it’s meeting your goals, great. Keep it up. I am interested in critiquing the parts of modern yoga I find most problematic. Not getting people to stop practicing. The main traps to look out for are the following: excessive passive stretching, contortionism / hyper mobility, chasing "advanced" poses, guru worship, unsubstantiated health & wellness claims, excessive capitalism and unsubstantiated spiritual claims. 3) Ultimately, the fact that yoga is evolving IS a good thing! We want yoga to keep evolving and adapting to meet the needs of modern people. This is the downside of following a strictly traditional path, like Sadhguru is talking about in your video. In particular, I would like to see Yoga integrate more modern biomechanics and scientifically rigorous health claims.

You said you were a non-believer? If you do want a serious relationship with her, then I misinterpreted your post. Please clarify what you meant and the situation between you and her.

It has nothing to do with discrimination. She seems to believe in serious relationships and you don’t. So you two are not match in this context.

My intention is to dispel myths about yoga for anyone reading this. Fair enough, I can't disprove or prove whatever personal experience you've had with this. But I'm also going to share my experience, which is that asanas are minimally effective for spiritual growth and basic health and wellness. They were not. Your assumption of how these asanas were created is too romantic. I'd encourage you to read some history on this topic. I have already offered one credible text in my previous post: Yoga Body by Mark Singleton. No they have not. This is the whole reason why I mentioned that asanas are mostly a modern, western development. People have created these romantic fantasies about why asanas exist. Which then encourages you to practice them more and more, thinking you are practicing some ancient spiritual technique that all the great yogis followed to become enlightened. There certainly has been some Eastern influence. People can experience benefits from Hatha Yoga. Hatha Yoga might encourage you to be more physically active, to take care of yourself, to set aside time for self-care, to meditate, to breathe, to turn inward, to relax, etc. You could also find community of people doing the same, which can be powerful. Also, it might encourage you to contemplate, take psychedelics or get into deeper spiritual work in some other way. So it's a mixed bag. It's not a simple as saying no one benefits from doing Hatha Yoga. It's some combination of real benefits + real problems + spiritual group think + romantic fantasies. Real yogis never did modern-form asanas. Asanas not even in the Yoga Sutras. The people doing modern asanas are mostly the people you are describing. Believe what you want. I am not saying you believe you are enlightened. I am saying beware of thinking you need to create perfect symmetry in the body.

The charges are strong enough. But the legal experts I’ve seen so far have said that it’s very unlikely he will face prison. So no.