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@Magnanimous Looks shady for sure. My gut intuition is that you will receive technically receive a product from them if you purchase. But it’s going to be of an extremely low quality.

I seriously doubt it. Might just be a correlation, not causation type of situation. I’d look into other causes. Should probably naturally reverse on its own. Obviously see a doctor if you really feel like it’s becoming a problem.

This is SUCH a good example of spiral dynamics at play. I had to post it. The question about relativism (largely a stage Green concept) is being posed to William Lane Craig, who is a theologian that defends God's existence and feels very Blue / Orange to me. Notice that despite being lower on the spiral than Green, he is actually able to make an intelligent point against it, which is that relativism eats itself. This is hugely important because we tend to assume that valid critiques can only be made down the spiral. No! Lower stages can in fact sometimes see the flaws of higher stages. But it does not make those at the lower stages above them. Why is that? It's because even though WLC can offer a refutation of absolute relativism, probably because of his extensive academic training, he fails at integrating and understanding the value of relativism and stage Green. To truly be higher than Green, he would need to go through Green and relativism. He would have to let Green relativism burn through his objective notions of truth. Which he clearly has not done. He doesn't understand why people are relativists, he just thinks they are deluded. "Clearly absolute relativity is wrong! Therefore my relative constructions must be true, right?" This is the same mistake Jordan Peterson is making. Isn't spiral dynamics fascinating? iI's so complex! No one person could have ever figured all this out. Serious science is needed.

The punk-rock flavor of Green: Key representative Green lyrics: "Well, I won't be caught living in a dead end job (job) While praying to my government, guns, and God (god) Now it's us against them We're here to represent And spit right in the face of the establishment Well, because we're doing fine And we don't need to be told that we're doing fine 'Cause we won't give you control And we don't need anything from you 'Cause we'll be just fine And we won't be bought and sold just like you We're the saints of degeneration We don't owe anyone an explanation Fuck elitists We don't need this We're the elite of just alright" Key representative Green lyrics: "I pledge allegiance to the underworld One nation under dog, there of which I stand alone A face in the crowd, unsung against the mold Without a doubt, singled out, the only way I know 'Cause I wanna be the minority I don't need your authority Down with the moral majority 'Cause I wanna be the minority" ^Also great examples of the Liberal vs the Conservative mind. One YouTube comment on the video describes this song perfectly and why I see it as Green: "People keep misinterpreting the lyrics. The song isn't out to vindicate how terrible the soldier is. In fact, we see the story from his POV. He joins, thinking he's doing the right thing. Instead, he finds out war is hell and he's not fighting for freedom, he's fighting against the oppressed around him. Instead of being this paragon of freedom that he thought he would be, he saw himself as the one causing it. This song isn't against service members. It actually tries to sympathize with them, while making the statement clear that war is terrible for all sides and that the justification of "We're protecting democracy" just isn't true when it's really just to further the interests of business and that we have lost our humanity far enough that he killed a child. This song has far more respect for servicemen and women around the world as it shows the reality of what they may have to face". ^ This is what every Green person is trying to say to the lower stages and all those interested in war! Look at what you're doing. Look at the brutality of it. Look at the children dying. Open your heart and feel how wrong it is. You know it is wrong. Let's just please end this and have peace. What I like about exploring this flavor of Green is that it's much different than the carebear, hippie Green stereotype! This Green is rebellious in a more in-your-face, aggressive way. It's more "Mean Green" as Wilber refers to it. Green is swinging a wrecking ball at elitism, authoritarianism, war, environmental degradation, racism, traditional gender roles, capitalist corruption and much more. And most importantly, it's swinging a wrecking ball at rigid, binary patterns of consciousness. It doesn't want Jordan Peterson's "order". It wants to be chaos, because disruption of order is necessary for the change it seeks. People at lower stages of the spiral will disagree with this, but notice that Green makes up most of the best musicians available to us in the modern age. This should come as no surprise. With Green comes a leveling up of creativity, emotional connection, authenticity and depth, coupled with decreased survival pressures. The unhealthy aspects of the lower stages hold them back when it comes to art. How can you be a deeply powerful artist if you are just following the rules (Blue) or just seeking selfishly seeking personal financial gain (Orange)?

@ucan99 Well with Wim Hof breathing, if you're doing it right, you're basically crashing your oxygen saturation levels to an extremely low threshold. That is the whole point and where the benefits come from. If you stayed at that level of oxygen saturation, it'd be incredibly dangerous. Some people can pass out if they take it too far. Sounds like that might be what happened to you. There are so many physiological reactions happening during something like WH breathing though it's hard to pin point exactly what it might have been scientifically. You'd basically need a medical degree. The "claw hands" are a phenomenon I've heard people refer to as tetany. Basically all that over-breathing is causing you to exhale all the carbon dioxide out of your system. That causes temporary changes in your body's PH, making you more alkaline. That can lead to cramps and all those tingly, electric feelings. Of course this is only the standard scientific POV. We could also view this through the lens of kundalini / energy healing. People who view breathwork from this lens would say that you are bringing in huge amounts of life force energy by over-breatheing, and that life force energy is being distributed to where the body needs it and clearing blockages. Another explanation could be that you are raising your state of consciousness by over breathing, similar to taking a psychedelic. Whether or not this is true, I don't really know at this point. It intuitively seems like it could be given how important breathing is for life. It's something I'm still exploring.

Cool idea for a thread! Bump

Green has many different flavors, just like the other colors. It’s not all carebear hippies. Notice the anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist, anti-establishment, anti-authoritarian, anti-religious frame.

I’ve tried nofap. I no longer see the value in it. What usually happens on nofap is that my sexual drive temporarily increases at first. But if I keep going, it basically just goes back to normal range. In fact, I often find that the more I fap, the more libido I have. There is a limit but it’s not at all like I have to wait a week + to recharge. I can fap almost everyday and have no problems. No loss in energy, no loss in libido, no loss in motivation. Porn is a different question. It does seem to have a strong potential for abuse. And of course there are the ethics of the industry to consider and to what degree we should participate in that. But probably a little porn once in a while won’t hurt you either.

No I don’t think it makes sense to purposefully limit the quality of your books. Make the book as good as you realistically can. That’s the true test. Yes consistency helps. That’s why brands have logos. You’re welcome.

That has always been the take. Of course everything is about blending the material and spiritual. If you didn’t, you couldn’t be alive to write about it. But also, consider that the evolution of consciousness is not just a naive idea of pure progress either. Consider that as consciousness evolves, it creates new problems. Which is what causes it to further evolve. In other words, the evolution of consciousness is literally driven by the downsides of the previous states. So to expect no tradeoffs misses the point.

Good picks. I think ya’ll will do well, best of luck.

Yes you are building your brand as an author. So when people see your name, they will automatically want to buy your books because they’ve heard good things from other people or because they know how good your previous books were. It’s not much different than what we were already talking about. Credentials can also help. Like if you have a PhD in a subject, publishers are more likely to pick you up. But I recognize there are limitations and problems with that route as well.

I’m not saying you shouldn’t want success or to be recognized. I’m saying you may be defining success in a limited or even outdated way. And that this definition is actually holding you back from success, because you are unlikely to succeed by fitting into that model. Just an idea. Play with it. I could be wrong. I can’t say I have exact steps for you. If you do some research you can probably find some more specifics. There’s books on self-publishing that have been written. Ultimately you’ll have to get creative. Yes this is the whole problem. You don’t have a brand. Building a solid brand is always one of the hardest part of a solid entrepreneurial endeavor. There’s no easy solution. People do fail to accomplish this every day. Once you build brand, you get the luxury of coasting off that brand recognition and trust. The reality though is that it’s not an impossible situation either. Think of all the successful brands that exist today. At some point they all started with essentially nothing, perhaps just some start up capital. So you can build from scratch. But it’s challenging.

@halfknots great share, thank you!

@Someone here I did some research in this area when I wrote a book. My perspective was that chasing major publishers was not the path to success. Most of them are not going to give you a chance if you are an unknown author. I’d really ask yourself: why is that? Is this just a self-image thing because that’s what a successful author “looks like” in your mind? What difference does it make how people find your book as long as they find it? IMO, you’re better off self-promoting the book yourself. Treat it like a business and your book is the product. Set a budget. You can promote it doing any of the following: Paid ads (Amazon ads, IG / FB ads, etc) Hire a PR company Sending copies to book review bloggers Creating social media content It may be worth reaching out to the following company. They help authors promote their books in the conscious space: https://consciousmediarelations.com/

I would say that’s a pattern of behavior common in all relationships, not just romantic ones. You can start to take for granted your business parter, your family, friends, your dog, etc. The reality is that most people are driven by obtaining what they don’t already have. That’s the survival wiring of the mind. When you’re hungry, you aren’t grateful for the food you had last week. You just want food now. In this way, gratitude and appreciation are actually harder embody. They require a higher state of consciousness that isn’t so survival oriented and can actually be satisfied with what is. Men as a generalization might be more prone to this, but everyone struggles with this no matter your gender. This is partly why conscious relationships are so tough. You must overcome your lower survival mind every day and choose to appreciate and love the other person. And not just in word, but in action. You must tend to the relationship perpetually, like a garden. And you must find what is new, novel and exciting about them, even if you’ve known them for years.

They’re not going to let the government default. No one is that stupid. Granted, the debt is a problem. But there’s this big panic every time the ceiling comes around and every time we raise it. This has been happening for decades.

@bloomer if you still like Tate and think he is a good role model after watching Leo’s video, nothing is going to get through to you. That was about as good of a breakdown as you will get. You like Tate because of your biases and because what is he saying matches your level of maturity and development. Not because “he is funny” or “he is helping men”. There is nothing objective about your appreciation for him.

Ask them: what is God? Notice the quality of their response.

And just like a dream, it will not happen in real life. You will all still very much care about death. You mean like laws and a criminal justice system?

I think your intention is in the right place. I think you want to improve society. But I’d strongly recommend you scrap this project, or at least change course dramatically. You are not going to be able to build something superior than current society. What you will realize that society is the way it is because it’s the best we are currently capable of. For instance, not having laws will not make you city better, it will make it worse. You imagine you may be able to get away without having laws because everyone will be so conscious, but this will never happen. In reality, what will happen is that shit will hit the fan and people will demand rules. And at a societal level, we just call those rules “laws”. Don’t try to reinvent the wheel. Contribute to the raising of consciousness and progress of society the best you can. But be careful with overly idealistic projects. They sound harmless enough, but I’ve seen people devote their entire lives to these projects and get nowhere. In the end, they accomplish essentially nothing except that we learn it doesn’t work. Which we could technically say is still contributing to progress from a very broad POV, but in practice it’s still not a great idea.

This guy was highly suspect from minute one I saw him. Typical red pill nonsense. In fact, he is more toxic than your average red pill guy. No surprises all this is coming out now. A younger me that was searching for what it meant to be a man might have been fooled. Glad I’ve learned.

I’ve never been able to fully anticipate the direction of Leo’s content. And I like that about it. Makes it more of an adventure. Looking forward to another year of curveballs.

To a degree, yes. But I wouldn’t overblow this point either. Whatever selfishness and corruption you are accusing Stage Green of, the lower stages WIll BE WORSE in their selfishness and corruption. That’s one of the fundamental errors the anti-woke crowd is making. They are not seeing the hierarchy.

I agree that the cult debacle has likely influenced her, but I don’t think she’s doing it just to refill her fan base. I think she generally has gone through a lot of criticism as a public figure. And that has skewed her perspective. This video is not a good example of multi-perspectival tier 2. Or at least it’s not a healthy example of it. Too biased and missing the big picture. Healthy tier 2 would look more like Jonathan Haidt’s or Ken Wilber’s work.