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@MsNobody I believe wordpress does have a forum plugin. That's what Leo uses for this forum if I'm not mistaken.

The relative has value. I’m not claiming these distinctions are the equivalent of awakening. It’s because making distinctions are so useful that we need to be careful not to confuse them with higher spiritual wisdom. But that’s not what I’m doing here. This is mostly about pragmatism.

@integral There definitely needs to be more discussion about the differences between men and women when it comes to spiral development. For instance, it’s easy to basically just paint every modern woman as green because she seems to value relationships, emotional connection, etc. However, I think the conclusions drawn in this particular post are shakey at best. I don’t see a woman reading her horoscope as a sign she is more inclusive of her stage Purple or her emasculating her parter as Red. Not all behavior is easily mapped to the spiral model.

Well yeah. Family is tough since most of us are not willing to abandon our families even if we don’t particular like hanging out with them. But you also don’t have to spend excessive time with them. You can keep it to the essentials, like holidays and birthdays. Workplace is also tough since the main priority of most workplaces in not authenticity, it’s to produce for the company. And you have to go there to survive. So you could either find a better workplace or start building a life purpose to become financially independent.

Fair. I have a hard imagining that such a realization wouldn't end up having some impact on a person's actions related to the Earth. But I could be wrong, wasn't my awakening.

Are you an alien?

That can happen, but socializing does exist on a spectrum. On one end of the spectrum, extreme banality, gossip, and general low consciousness behavior. On the other end of the spectrum, you actually can have higher quality social interactions with people. But if you're so focused on how you don't enjoy it, you likely never will. No one ever enjoyed socializing while sitting there thinking about how much they don't enjoy socializing. You have to buy in to the idea at least somewhat that socializing can actually be fun and fulfilling.

There have been many threads on the topic on veganism already. The future scenario I've been thinking about lately is humanity genetically engineering superfoods in the future The problem with GMOs and other attempts at this is that the food has either been unhealthy, bad tasting, or both. Humanity should spend billions of dollars researching this. If you could eat a GMO food that was super nutrient dense, bioavailable, contained no toxins or heavy metals, and overall improved your biomarkers for health, would you really not eat it? I would.

Interesting. I’ve felt for a while now that the earth has a consciousness, but I’ve not had a deep experience of BEING the earth like you’re describing. Would you say this have implications for environmentalism and what a healthy relationship with the earth looks like?

You're going to have to get your hands dirty and explore a bit. Take some classes and see what you feel called to. See what works with clients and what doesn't.

Get in it while can during the summer lol. During the winter months, red light therapy. It’s not the same but it will help. You can also do cod liver oil for vitamin d, assuming it’s not full of heavy metals or toxics. Which is questionable. I’ve also heard people recommend indoor tanning beds for UV light, but I personally have not tried that. Might do more harm than good.

1) Sunlight. You can also use red light therapy to supplement that end of the spectrum. 2) Massage or regular bodywork 3) Mix of zone 2 steady-state cardio and HIIT 4) Functional breathing, i.e healthy breathing mechanics and healthy breathing volume 5) Working on your emotional wellbeing with through meditation, therapy, shadow work or some other modality. Stress is not good for your health 6) Getting outside into nature

@AtheisticNonduality No, he just became an alien mouse.

For sure. If nothing else, it has made my hourly daily meditation a breeze. At higher levels in the program, they give you access to tracks that let you access specific brain wave frequencies (alpha, gamma, theta), which is a nice added bonus. Of course I do a lot of other spiritual work too. So it can be hard to separate the effects of these things. But I really enjoy the daily meditation and plan on finishing the whole program. I think if combined with safe psychedelic use and perhaps something like neurofeedback, you almost have everything you need to rapidly advance in this work.

Lmao In the past you’ve said that channeling spiritually evolved non-physical beings (like angels) is not worthwhile and you’re better off just channeling straight from God. Do you think this encounter has altered your opinion?

@melontonin Been doing holosync for years but never combined with psyches. If you’re going to try it, I would stick with a program level you’re relatively comfortable with. Or a psychedelic dose you’re comfortable with. I wouldn’t hit the gas on both at the same time. Realistically, if you’re a more powerful psychedelic experience, just do a larger dose. You don’t need to combine other techniques unless you really want to. Psyches should be enough for most people.

What do you mean by frivolous? We don’t really know their full personality from this short clip. You could clip some of my behavior in a video and get a very distorted perception of who I am. Even non frivolous people like to cut loose and have fun. They’re likely SD stage Green, which is relatively high. Regardless, I don’t find it that surprising. Just because you are a serious intellectual doesn’t mean you want to date someone else who is also a serious intellectual. That’s too much serious intellectualism

They're certainly not all cults. Cult is a strong accusation. More likely than a cult is just the challenge of such close relationships. You don't need to be in a cult for relationships to be draining or toxic at times. Especially when you're practically living on top of each other and need to work together. It's definitely not just going to be paradise. More like a lot of conflict, arguing, fighting etc. You have to decide what it most important for you. For some people, they value the vision of the community enough to deal with the drama. You will certainly be forced to work on your communication and conflict-resolution skills if nothing else. Co-housing will likely be the least intense of everything on that list. It's relatively normal living compared to ecovillages, intentional communities and communes. The latter can get very, very extreme depending on which one you join. Hostels aren't really intentional communities, they're more like hotels where people sleep in the same space.

No. This narrative that all the power is at the top is incomplete at best. What you’re dealing with is a complex system where the people influence the elites and the elites influence the people simultaneously. It is not possible to have a truly top down, authoritarian regime. Although certainly some structures of government (like monarchy, hint hint) can push it that direction. You very clearly believe you have solutions. You said the best hope for the future is “liberal monarchs to unite distinct kingdoms” in your original post. Don’t squirm your way out of it now. Will you find it so cool to break things when it’s your head that’s on the line? Or will you wise up and realize breaking things has real consequences?

@RoyalFool I don’t disagree that democracy has flaws. But I deeply disagree with your solution being monarchy. Monarchy cannot solve any of the problems you described, and in fact democracy arose because monarchy failed so badly. If you go back to monarchy, all that will happened is that people will eventually begin to demand democracy again. It’s a natural consequence of the raising consciousness of a society. And we’ll be right back where we are now.

I agree with this. The question is whether or not common people, who most definitely are not free from those things, will support and follow such leaders. Or if our systems can even handle them without collapse. Certainly we need a raising in consciousness. My only objection is to what degree it is practical for world leaders to awaken. The most practical stages for western leaders would seem to be Green and Yellow. That is certainly a raising of consciousness, but it is sufficient to solve many of our current problems and doesn’t require enlightenment. In other parts of the world, Green and Yellow may already be too much. Is it? Certainly there are some exponential curves we’ve been on, such as total energy expenditure, population, GDP, technology, etc. And certainly we face real existential threats with environmental degradation, war, etc. But I’m not convinced that threat is growing exponentially. The consciousness of people on the planet is higher than ever. Human society has always teetered on the edge of destruction. And we’ve overcome those threats without exponential awakened leadership, minus some great sages from the past. Fair enough. Perhaps. The other possibilities are that the system would more likely collapse or the leader would be booted from power before that happened. Which seems more likely to me. Although we might be able to find some exceptions. The natural progress of human history has been a slow, steady walk up the spiral, with most leaders being at a similar level of consciousness as their followers. Not exponential growth from awakened beings. Exceptions perhaps being Buddha, Christ, Muhammand etc. But even their teachings have had a limit on how much good they can do due to the consciousness of their followers.

@Consilience I’m highly skeptical of such organizations. They say on their website that their main motivation is for “the powerful to be awakened and the awakened to be powerful”. But is this itself actually a good idea? People do not need awakened leaders per say. What people need is leaders who are a bit more conscious than them. Leaders who are too awakened are less practical and may actually cause backlash due to the gap in consciousness between leader and followers. Awakening also does not guarantee high political IQ. In a sense, I’d rather have a stage Green politician who is not awake but who has deeply devoted themselves to studying politics and the current issues than someone who is “awakened” and spent all their time contemplating existential questions. It seems like the goal of this program is achieve both, which is admirable and something I also strive for. But it is quite a lot to expect from one person. Specialization can be useful at times. Furthermore, if you take an awakened being and place them into a corrupt system, they themselves may become corrupt out of necessity of surviving in that system. So it’s not as simple as raising the consciousness of leaders. None of these critiques mean MAPLE doesn’t have value or that we shouldn’t develop more conscious leadership. I would consider visiting just to have my own first-hand experience and decide for myself what I thought. But I have become more skeptical of naive Utopianism, which I sometimes see a lot of.

Eckhart Tolle, awakening out of no where:

ESP genetics:

Actually it’s not totally wrong. It’s just that Prager badly fails to understand Green because he is Blue. Affluence + secularism would likely indicate a person who has moved to stage Orange on the spiral. They’ve handled some of their basic survival needs. But Orange has its limits. And and people start to wonder if there is more to life (stage Green). They might start caring more about equality and doing good in the world, even if it’s a bit naive and misguided. In other words, they move politically left and up the spiral. That is what is supposed to happen. Blue cannot not comprehend that Green is more evolved then them because Blue hasn’t been there yet. So to Blue it looks like a regression, when in reality it is progression.