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That seems questionable though. Certainly you may have a very successful career and lots of friends. But I don't think I would say that's a necessary prerequisite for Tier 2. What if your work is not highly valued by society? What if you are a Tier 2 stay-at-home mom? What if you're deeply introverted? What if your life purpose doesn't involve a formal career at all? What if you're Tier 2, but you get struck by freak bad health? What if you're Tier 2 but you're just not built for leadership? What if you're already Tier 2, but your work is so difficult that it's going to take you two more decades before it fully shines? I think there's too many possibilities here to assume Tier 2 has to look like Jordan Hall or Vervaeke.

What would having something to show for it look like? And how would you demonstrate it?

Patience and wits is exactly what they don't have. They will lose all their money on crypto, long-shots, schemes, Robinhood and all kinds of other BS. And that's assuming you can even convince them of the value of investing and get them to start. Literally 401ks, pensions and social security. Millions of people across multiple generations have successfully retired on this strategy. 1) That's why we need collective retirement strategies for people, like social security and 401ks 2) Some percentage of people will be able to increase their income. And especially on this forum, people are interested in being in that minority 3) You have no solution to this, just fantasies of investing Student loans can be a good investment for many people. It depends on what you study and how serious you take it.

Most definitely. He's good at not speaking down to people or dismissing their concerns.

High: historical awareness, support for the marginalized, equality, non-judgmental

DOJ shutting down crypto fraud unit: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/08/cryptocurrency-fraud-unit-shut-down/82991750007/ Some good commentary by Coffee:

You can do a 401k. That is investing and will get you matches from your employer, which can add up a lot. I think that's a realistic compromise for the majority people. It also encourages you to stabilize your income. Some jobs still offer pensions. If you're in the US you'll also collect Social Security, assuming it's not dismantled by Trump. Is it really more realistic to expect people to be savvy investors than to grow their income? An unexpected bill is what happens when all that inevitably fails. Here in the US we have millions of people with medical debt. You're almost as likely to end up with medical debt than not. Then there's also credit card debt, student loans, etc. What you're describing is not a serious strategy.

Only if you don't need that money. The whole point is that if you're already struggling financially, you might need it. What happens if you get an unexpected bill? Maybe you personally will make it work, but I wouldn't consider that generally good advice for lower income people. Lower income people need to be protecting the money they have and working on growing their income, not investing in stocks. Otherwise you are putting the cart way before the horse. A 401k might also be relevant, depending on your goals.

That seems backwards. If you don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars, you shouldn't be seriously investing in the first place. And if you are, then I would be extra cautious about holding during a crash, since it will tank everything you have. The people who can do a long hold and weather a crash are the ones with more money. They can afford to ride out the bump.

Did you deliberately intend to become clairaudient?

It was volatile but ended up not being too bad for US markets today. Both S&P and DJ down under 1%. Even Bitcoin is up right now. Of course Trump is doubling down on everything, so this is definitely not over.

The con continues:

It feels like a big crash might be coming tomorrow. Strap in ya'll.

Here you go: High: heart > head, ecology, high ego-development

Game B in a nutshell. High: broad ego identification, systems thinking

That was helpful, thank you.

That's sounds like a great description of Žižek. But he's still wrong.

@Emerald I apologize if I crossed a line. Guys, be careful of ganging up on her. That's not what this should turn into.

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I still kind of am. It just needs to be balanced. It's a nuanced issue. In the past, men have made mistakes both being too authoritarian and being too egalitarian. I'm interested in helping guys to correct both of those.

That is NOT the case for my past partners. The more we had an egalitarian dynamic, the less likely we were to have that sub/dom relationship. It's the ownership that creates the safety and polarity, not lack of ownership. How much I feel the need to govern her behavior usually just naturally adapts to how mature she is. If she's very responsible and capable, I feel the need to do less. If she's not, I feel the need to do more. IRL it's not nearly as authoritarian as it might sound . Respecting her sovereignty is part of positive ownership. Being a slave owner is not my thing.

There's surely some difference. You probably don't need to tell her not to put her finger in an electric socket. But also, those lines may not be so distinct at times. Women literally call men "daddy" in bed.

What you're missing is that men who are more masculine want to be depended on. Much more so than depending on her. This is an actual need, not dysfunction.

This. Don't talk about it, just do it. They'll appreciate it whether they understand what's happening not.