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TIL the witch cartel exists.

@KoryKat Sounds like a good summary of Tier 2.

Awesome job! Writing specifically about construct-awareness is a cool niche. Not many people understand it that well, we need more people talking about it.

@Rasheed I think the real question is how satisfied are you in your current relationship? If you’re satisfied, keep doing that. There’s plenty of ways to grow through having a long-term relationship that are unique. You want experience in that area as well.

@Ayham be careful because being overly-paralyzed is often just more self-deception. You are taking a position by attempting to stay neutral. Neutrality is a position. So you’re not truly “not-deciding”. Notice that you cannot not take a position.

It’s an accurate summary, just woefully inadequate to really understand anything. Reading the book and watching Leo’s series is the best place to start. Otherwise you’ll have a sort of Dunning-Kruger “false knowledge”.

Respect to Ana for branching out. The circumstances are different, but the disillusionment with Green and the desire for ideological freedom feel very familiar to me. The challenge for her now will be if she can maintain this newfound freedom without botching it. She’s intellectually off-roading now, and that comes with some risks. The first one being that she overcorrects and pulls a Jordan Peterson on us. Fingers crossed she’s not Dave Rubin 2.0.

She probably could have got a lighter sentence, but she just repeatedly shot herself in the foot. I have almost no hope prison will reform her. What a sad way to close out a life. Respect for the judge too. Don't forget that there are many reasonable people still working in government, they just are behind the scenes and don't make nearly as much noise.

1) Just about, except for the very early ones 2) Unless it is technical and specific, note-taking is not my style of learning. I find it too distracting. I'd rather just listen, absorb and sort it out later 3) I've read a fair amount from the booklist but many I have not. There is simply too many books to read everything I'd like to, and quite frankly I no longer feel many of them would benefit me. 4) Yes 5) The sprawling nature of the way Leo operates is perfect for someone like me. I always need to be pushing my understanding, otherwise I get easily bored. If Leo just talked about the same things over and over, I would have left a long time ago 6) I've not taken the course but I do feel on track for my LP 7) I'd like to understand extreme states of consciousness that are probably only available via psychedelics. But I'm also not a big psychedelic user, so that has been challenging to figure out. I suppose at some point I'll just have to bit the bullet.

An insight I had while watching the video on Voodoo in Benin: stage purple culture use deities to ground law and order. Reality is essentially epistemological anarchy. You can believe anything, regardless of the truth of it. There are no “objective” truths written in the universe that could not be denied or challenged. And this presents a deep challenge for organizing human survival. Who is to say whether we should cut down the mangroves or not? And why should your opinion be the right one? What if someone else has a different one? This is a recipe for chaos and dysfunction. Thus, human societies do two things to ground law and order: 1) Appeal to some sort of higher authority 2) Enforce that appeal with violence You have to do both of these things, because just one is not enough. Without the appeal to a higher authority, you have no way to justify law. And without violence, someone could still always just disagree. So force is necessary. Modern liberal democracies do with the power of the judicial / legal system. You appeal to a higher authority (in this case “laws” that have been passed by government) and back it up with state-sponsored violence (police, national guard, military etc). But in stage purple societies, courts do not exist. And there really is no need for them to, given the size of these tribes vs modern nation states. Instead, law and order is grounded by appealing to the higher authority of supernatural deities. This solves a big chunk of the problem of epistemological anarchy, as there is now something considered beyond human opinion that we can point to and say “this is what’s true”. And of course it is still backed up with the second criteria of threat of violence. It really is an ingenious survival strategy. But of course in order for this to work, people must actually believe in the authority of these deities. Everything hangs on this. Thus, challenging the existence or authority of these deities would not just harmless critical thinking. No! You would be potentially threatening the entire survival strategy of that culture. It’s that serious.

@riplo Nice job. Are you still going out alone? Now that you can approach, you might want to start thinking about building more of a social circle.

Yes, that is one of the main appeals. You can assert yourself.

Masculinity tends to have an "edge" to it. It feels intense and even potentially dangerous, like looking at a tiger that could maul you. You really have to control and balance it out, or it becomes very destructive.

This objection itself has many holes. There’s no reason that what is useful must also be true. In fact, it’s often the opposite. Deception and bending the truth is one of the most useful tools for survival.

One echo chamber will get replaced with another until the mind develops sufficient capacity for complexity.

That’s essentially the same rationale the manosphere uses. If she shaved her head and put on a pair of sunglasses, she’d be Andrew Tate. It is good to wise up to the games men play though if you’re a woman. So I can understand the appeal in that sense. A lot of women have dealt with extremely exploitative men and may struggle with advocating for themselves. The challenge is filtering out the toxicity.

It’s toxic to herself first and foremost. In some ways, she is the main victim here. Her mind is poisoned and she will never be able to have a healthy relationship because of it. Whatever damage is done to men is only secondary.

Manosphere for women. And just as toxic.

Oh yes, the princess flip. That definitely does not work and often just feels awkward or even emasculating. Another misconception I've seen is women thinking that because a man shows a lot of investment in one area of his life, that it will translate over to her. Like if he's super passionate about a hobby, then he will be passionate about investing in our relationship, right? Well...maybe. It's usually not that straightforward. You can potentially compartmentalize investment, such that you are passionate in one area but slack in another. In fact, he might be so heavily invested in whatever else he is doing that the relationship just feels like a distraction. Women are better off just screening for more compatible guys than trying to win investment.

The hyper-subjectification is definitely real. I see it as a function of her survival agenda, which is essentially to lock down a particular guy. So of course once she finds "that guy" she is going to be head-over-heels for him and tune out the rest. Glad you made it through all that. Sounds like it could have been traumatic, but you alchemized it. That takes serious strength.

Do you see this a-rational lens as a form of unconditional love? From my experience on the other side of the "hyper-particularization" fence, it's true that a woman's love is strong. Occasionally I even feel the need to safeguard her boundaries because she's willing to burn it all down in the name of loving me. And I'm certainly not someone who checks every "objective" box. At the same time, I have a hard time seeing that as feminine, a-rational appreciation of my innate self-worth. And I don't feel that particularly bothers me either. I don't need her to just love my innate worth. I fully expect her love to be at least somewhat conditional, just as mine is.

@manuel bon I took a course. Honestly I felt like it was a bit of a waste. People talk about being able to feel the Craniosacral rhythm and moving structures, but I wasn't able to notice anything. It's basically just holding people. I would like to believe there's something to it. Maybe there are some exceptional practitioners with skills I just don't have. But it's hard to believe given my experience and its complete lack of scientific validation. At the very least, I think many people are definitely bullshitting themselves about its efficacy. Curious to hear how your experience goes, let us know.

“Fire”? You are talking about taking huge chunks of territory from six sovereign nations, one of which is a significant partner with the US (Saudi Arabia). It’s basically a plan for endless war.

There are zionists who even apparently believe in Greater Israel.