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Perception itself is Absolute. Deconstruct the notion that there is a perceiver doing survival. There is just perception, full stop. Alternatively, you could say there's no perception at all since there is no perceiver. It's just Consciousness. Any notion you have of a perceiver is within Consciousness.

Well keep doing what you're doing. Seems to be working for you.

I want to make a general point about this social circle vs cold approach debate. "Social circle" and "cold approach" are constructs that we could deconstruct. They're often not that clearly distinguishable. For instance, if I'm in college and approach a girl I don't know from class, is that cold approach or social circle? She is part of the larger social circle of my college. Maybe she has seen me before in class. So it's not strictly cold, but it's not strictly social circle. What about if you're at a friend's party and you approach a woman you don't know? What about if you're in a VIP section of a nightclub with friends and approach a random woman from the general section to come join you? What about if you're at an eclusive business networking event and open someone? The line gets blurry very fast. Really this cold approach vs social circle debate is a continuum. Where at the one end, you're approaching a complete stranger who is at least a member of the same human species. And at the other end, you are having your closest friends or family directly introducing you to someone. Realistically, everyone is choosing some sort of hybrid strategy. The question is just how much. How much cold approach do you want versus social circle? What are the tradeoffs for each strategy? In what context does each work best? And how does it fit into your larger life goals? When you lean more cold approach, you get more anonymity, volume and directness. When you lean more social circle, you get more exposure, indirectness and compounding effects. Which is inherently better?

I was thinking that as well but didn't want to say it. Bro is playing on easy mode

My guess is that's because you just haven't done a lot of cold approaches. You seem to prefer smaller, more intimate environments. I think that the "escalating signals" thing has happened to me maybe once in my entire life. And it didn't even lead anywhere. It's the exact opposite of the movies.

1/5 guys reported to the authorities seems way too high. I also have some issues with his advice about "escalating signals before talking". That almost never happens. If you wait for that kind of thing, you will essentially never be able to approach a woman ever. You don't need flirty eye contact, you just need to know how to approach properly and walk things back if they're unwanted. Everything else he said was pretty solid.

@RendHeaven Well said. You are wise in the ways of the Spiral

I don't like having any sort of formal practice. I just contemplate all day on various topics.

I agree that getting some warm social circle experience would be ideal for guys if they've never had that. Otherwise, yeah they will probably be very cringey when they start to do pickup.

Green take on evolution:

You're confusing things. Yes, all beliefs are ontologically true in the sense that that occur in reality and therefore must be. But that is different from beliefs being "correct". Self-deception still occurs within reality. Just think about it.

You were already deceived. I just pointed it out to you. Being king of reality doesn't mean all your silly beliefs are now correct. Don't get it confused.

No, your perception is 100% reality. You can just still be self-deceived. Both are true. Your self-deception is ontologically still reality. But that does mean you're right. You are self-deceived that your perception of reality is not 100% reality.

You can still experience self-deception.

It is literally whatever you perceive.

This theory is badly wrong. Your perception of reality is exactly reality. Not an interface of any kind.

@Hojo you could just as easily claim the reverse. Near-sightedness = pulling your vision in, retracting from the world, hiding, fear Far-sightedness = relaxing into your field of vision, moving into the world, safety

And how do you ensure that your platonic social circle will even allow you to approach the women you want to date? Or that you don't give yourself golden handcuffs by placing yourself in the wrong kind of role? You have to think ahead about this kind of thing. It does not just happen. Again, you don't have to do "pickup". But you do need to plan and initiate conversations with people.

We did it guys we solved dating. Everyone get your meetup account ready and head down to your local dive bar, she's waiting.

You forgot lives a perfect wellness lifestyle, eschewing drugs and alcohol.

Don’t worry bro, she’s going to be at the book club meeting from Meetup.com

I’m not suggesting anyone should live this life. I don’t even myself. I’m pointing out realities of the modern dating world. Choose whatever life you feel is best. There’s also nothing exclusive to what I said about Miami. Any major city will have its version of this. Miami is just a bit more extreme than others. Whether you want to collect trophies or settle down and have a deep relationship, you still have to meet her.

Watch this if you want to challenge your fantasies about where the most attractive women are. This is the kind of thing your 10 is doing while you're at a dive bar having deep conversations with old people: https://youtu.be/qysTp512dfA?si=K3oe6NqveYJNAh-s

I agree getting the hottest women is not the problem for most guys. I don't even think they will succeed in that endeavor. I also agree that Joshe's advice was mostly fine. I don't really have a problem with what he said. I'm pointing out the limitations for the minority of guys who might be interested in that, and to disrupt any fantasies there are about dating the women typically considered the most attractive. If a guy thinks that going out to dive bar is going to get him the hottest women, that's a fantasy. And he needs to pop that. Also, I think you might be misunderstanding the order of operations for pickup. You do pickup precisely because you don't have a social circle and need to meet people. That's exactly what it was like when I moved to Miami. I knew absolutely no one, and so I had to approach a lot more people before I had the luxury of coasting off a group of friends. Because these guys are often socially awkward, they're not going to have a social circle. I've meet many of them. So are they supposed to just wait for a social circle to materialize? They have to initiate lots of conversations. You don't have to think about it as pickup per se. You could think about it as social circle building. But pickup is motivating for many guys. Young guys are mostly immature and aren't motivated by community. They want to meet women. That's the carrot for them. Also, often pickup becomes a great way to meet other guys in your local area. Your "pickup friends" become your actual friends, through the shared bond that is the hell of cold approach. Guys bond well when they have a challenge to tackle together. So there's the start of your social circle. I know guys who were originally "pickup friends" who are all friends years later and in each other's weddings. That's the kind of real bond you can form.

To be fair to him, I don't think his advice was meant to suggest it would attract the hottest girls. Just that it will get you laid and help you overcome social anxiety. Which I agree it could. Most guys are never going to seriously go after the most attractive women. And for good reason. They will not succeed.