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@ExploringReality I think it can be a mistake to sometimes try and align your deepest spiritual work with survival and life purpose. Sometimes it's better to keep things compartamenalized. If skateboarding is really your zone of genius, do that for your life purpose and survival. Pursue spirituality outside of that on your own. It's possible they may end up coming together in an unexpected way too.

It's a reasonable question.

Whether it's deep holistic intuitions or some rational, empirical inquiry, it's all understanding. And it's all happening with your mind and your intelligence, just to different degrees. There is no escaping mind, intellect or understanding. There is no other process. Mind is using mind to understand mind. On this we are in strong disagreement. Stage Green cannot possibly offer healthy conservatism. The whole purpose of Stage Green is to begin the deconstructive process of societal norms and all your conditioning.

There have been strong protests for most modern wars. Look at how much backlash Vietnam and Iraq got. Whether or not it would be enough for the public to completely lose faith in Trump is questionable. It depends on how much pain they are experiencing and how much they attribute it to Trump. Most conservatives do not actually believe war or violence is wrong. They see that as a weak position for soft liberals.

At this rate, we may end up in an actual physical war with Europe and Canada.

That's the whole reason for doing an inquiry like this. If healthy conservatism is difficult to find, we must seek it out. It's like mining for gold. Their sense-making is often still shallow, yes. Those are definitely some errors leftists make. I doubt almost anyone understands Goodness or comprehends the depth of our collective problems.

A good discussion on the importance of press freedom:

Levitation or it doesn't count

Good find.

You bring more Tier 2 thinking, but I suspect there's still quite a bit of overlap. I actually have this debate with one of my close leftist friends. His viewpoint is incredibly similar to yours. "Evil" for most lefties is anything outside or against their SD Green value system. But their Green value system still tends to include seeing people as inherently good. Even the lefties calling for the guillotines are often doing so while believing in the inherent goodness of people. Here's a quick convo I had with GPT on this, which I think mostly nailed it: https://chatgpt.com/share/67c660ff-be24-800c-a9a7-5d78ae66ca3d My perspective would be that limitation is in service of preservation. Preservation is the goal, limitation is the tool. As long as we wish to preserve, conservatism will be relevant.

Re: wokeness is "dead" Is DEI just a moral fad, or is it deeper than that?

@Mu_ your questions are not unreasonable at all. Helping to bring the entire world up to the standard of living of the most undeveloped nations could cause more resource strain. But also, I would consider what the benefits of that would be. What would we gain in terms of technology, scientific-advancements, coordination, resource-use etc? If we consider the ecological crisis to be a function of Stage Orange and lower stages of development, then the reality is we need to more development, not less. You have to punch through the wall.

Vibes can be misleading.

Great. Keep us updated.

Vice News is exactly what popped into my head as well. This kind of thing seems up their alley.

I am going to encourage him because it’s a good idea. But it’s also risky, so he will of course have to make his own choice. What I am really asking him for is to do a sober, truthful assessment of the situation. He could get sued. He could do serious damage to his reputation. He could even unknowing implicate himself if there was anything illegal going on. All that needs to be considered and prepared for *if* he decides to go through with something like this. I bring up Leo because you both are unsure if sharing his story could actually help change someone’s mind. Leo’s video is a good example of that fact that reaching these guys is not impossible. They mostly just have to be ready for it.

Very true. But also consider where you might be if Leo had taken that same attitude with his video. Is it actually the case that all press is good press?

It absolutely can and might seriously backfire, depending on the attention it receives. You have to weigh the risks of that for yourself. You could potentially ask for anonymity from the interviewer. Don't be naive and assume everything will be fine if you speak out.

If it's done well, it could be a net positive. How many guys did Leo talk off the edge with his Andrew Tate video? Read the comments.

To stop young naive guys from falling into the same traps. He has a unique story. How many people have both had success with Andrew Tate and also left it behind?

@Unlimited Glad to hear you got out. If you're willing to deal with the consequences, you may want to consider sharing your story more publicly. I bet people would be willing to interview you.

Nothing is going to rival Vegas except maybe Miami. But LA is still a good choice. If you’ve already been married, then I’d put an extra emphasis on living a lifestyle you want. Pick a city that matches your larger goals and that encourages success based on your personality. For instance, if you really love the outdoors, you might do really well in a place like the Pacific NW. Ultimately, a lot of your success does not come down to your cold approach skills. It comes down logistics, convenience, motivation and your ability to network in that particular city. If you think LA matches up better in those areas, then I’d go with LA.

Unless that city is West Palm Beach or Fort Lauderdale, no way. It's way too small if you're seriously going to be learning cold approach. You need to be thinking Vegas, Miami, New York, LA, San Diego, Austin, Dallas etc. Vegas and Miami are probably the best choices.

It’s interesting that Leo has been talking about logic in his recent posts. There does appear to be a kind of logical necessity God, and yet explaining how that can be when God is not beholden to logic is tough. Perhaps we need a new term: God Logic

Disgusting and embarrassing. JD Vance is such a smug prick.