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Sure, but I wouldn't call that the core defining characteristic. All of that is more of a downstream consequence of multi-perspectivalism.

Yellow is not about accuracy of models, it's a meta-orientation towards all models, paradigms and perspectives. If you think you have something, show me what you're talking about.

I don’t grant that you have greater predictive ability or understanding of human psychology.

100%. I learn from everyone here. The book is coming out very soon, so I will likely be sharing more about it.

You could be born with a predisposition that helps you develop into Yellow. That's not a contradiction. But a predisposition you are born with is definitely not equivalent to Yellow development by itself.

Development ain't an equal opportunity endeavor. There are many factors that give people developmental advantages and disadvantages.

Yellow is primarily about radical multi-perspectivalism, even beyond the pluralism of Orange / Green. This is not at all something humans are just born with.

I do have a different way of thinking about it, but these are good points. I appreciate the feedback.

You'll have to read my book and decide for yourself. That is not my conclusion.

I talk about evolutionary psychology briefly, but I don't put a focus on hard data. I'm not an academic. My conclusions are mostly based on observation.

I literally just wrote a book about this subject as part of a new project I'm launching. There's way too much depth to compress it into a forum post, but the punchline is that masc / fem are something analogous to your Big Five personality or Myers Briggs. Constructed models that nonetheless capture something important about how you orient to the world. If you deconstruct traditional gender roles and rigid gender ideology, it does give you more range of expression. But it does not change your core orientation. Furthermore, just deconstructing gender roles and ideology is not enough. You must also reconstruct what mattered. I don't experience myself as suddenly "becoming feminine". It's more like masculinity expresses itself differently across different contexts. Because it's confusion.

That does not mean people just flip-flop between masculinity and femininity at their core. I am strongly against this flip-flop argument. It misunderstands what it actually means to be masculine or feminine. Range of expression is not proof of changing your core orientation.

Best argument for polyamory is potentially that it just allows for more people to help raise the children. Raising children with two people alone can be very challenging. Usually you at least need some extended family involved, or maybe some hired help. People in throuples often report it can be beneficial.

You are going to have to heal this wounding eventually.

For guys on this forum who are legitimately approaching Tier 2, then yes some developmental leadership is likely inevitable. And yes, that will create somewhat of a hierarchy between you and her. That being said, most couples who last are at relatively similar levels of development. Otherwise the gap in values and lifestyle will just be too great.

People do not switch between core orientations and temperament. Does not matter how much polarity theory you read. If her core orientation leans more masculine, it's going to stay that way. People are just ultimately not that flexible.

Because the libs are concerned with egalitarianism, social justice and abuse of power. They often see muslims as an oppressed minority and victim of colonization in a world dominated by western Judeo-Christian nations. They are not totally wrong about this.

I wouldn't get hung up on a debate between which is more important. Just work on both.

San Diego. I think if anywhere here is interested in a long-term relationship, this is an underrated city. Large population, good nightlife, health conscious, family values, beautiful weather, spiritual friendly, and relatively easy access to LA, Vegas or even Mexico. Cons: it's expensive as hell for most people.

Fair enough. But I'm going to guess those were all very platonic interactions. This was the first time you showed some serious intent and put pressure on her to make a choice about you. No that is not an assumption. It does not work. If your ex responded positively that way, that was luck. It will not work in the vast majority of situations, even with women who would have liked you eventually. Exactly like your co-worker. You can do what you want, but in my opinion you are shooting yourself in the foot putting so much pressure on her immediately.

@TheGod The more valuable lesson here might be that women just need time to warm up to you. You dumped way too much intent, too fast on your opener. That will never work 99% of time. Not even because she might not like you, but because she literally knows nothing about you at that point. Don’t get me wrong, I understand when you’re nervous it can actually be easier to just put all your cards on the table like that. It’s better you did the approach than nothing, as evidenced by the fact it still worked out. But it’s still way too much pressure, too soon for any woman to reasonably make a decision on. The best thing you did was that you took down the pressure and kept talking to her. She actually helped you out by giving you an excuse.

@Zenterus I'm with you on the daygame hate train. It's usually way too indirect and filled with social obstacles.

You just need experience and to observe what you actually respond to vs what you don't. Watch yourself like a scientist.

I've been focused on launching a project where I will be teaching Tier 2 masculinity and relationships. There's essentially no one else teaching this, so I'm excited about it. I will probably post more about it on the forum soon. It will be very niche, but very powerful for the right people.

Yes it's very strange. I find that survival tends to answer a lot of these question for you, whether you like it or not. The fact you want to survive at all means certain decisions are already made. You probably need money, to take care of your health, have some human relationships, etc. Basic things really. Some sort of art or creative project can also be meaningful. And of course pursuing deeper understanding of God, truth, life and consciousness.