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awareness of my experience (since Im not aware of your experience, im limited only to mine) ?

Yeah but you say all this cause you have some "inside knowledge" of ultimate reality (at least you claim) but i feel its not fair to others, I dont want to just believe i want to experience this what you experience, how can we arrange this?

Okay is it alright to say that I am nothing or awareness (since I can always detach from the thing observed) yet I am ME the person, a particular human being with face but you could also say I am that flower I see on my table, but the only difference is the relationship I have with "things" (like me and flower) where being a person involves to be sensitive to "external environment" that affects particular body (like an injury) but me being a flower or other human beings doesnt involve being sensitive to their pain, im just wondering if there is conflict in me experiencing sort of separateness from other creatures while I am being Me, or is it just that my idea of separation is wrong in itself, why would i feel separate, is it just my thoughts who are insisting on being separate and isolated? What is wrong in me being Me and You being You, why would I think there is separation, just because i cant feel it when you cut your finger would this means I am separate from you, or is it just my thoughts? What do you think ? (I feel like i went into some self talk, sorry for that )

I cant even conceive of such perspective..I can conceive just "being" state which is absent of thoughts and feeling, but there is still perception, there is always something separate which can identify that I am experiencing this or that or just "being". If you cant detach from the thing you are experiencing you dont know whats happening, but thats probably not a state which you are talking about right?

@Synchronicity Would you agree that "reality" is actually weird, dream like, but we cant see this cause our minds are always trying to explain things into framework of logic (cause and effect) and this creates illusion that there is nothing extraordinary happening, just regular, boring day to day living? For example i got flue virus and got sick for 2 weeks. So my logical mind would just explain this as result of my actions (swimming in the pool with sick people, maybe imunsystem not at optimal conditions ) nothing special here, just unfortunate happening. But is it really just that i got unlucky and caught the virus by chance or is there something more extraordinary things happening that i just cant see? I mean the ability to even catch something we call the virus feels pretty extraordinary.. Was I destined to catch the virus or was it random unimportant happening ? Thanks! ^^

@Nahm So what changes after the "awakening" is the point of view, is non-dual perspective just a point of view?

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Had similar experience where i lost control and was pulled more and more into the rabbit hole until i went mad..the only thing from going totally insane was presence of shaman, which to me seemed like the only anchor point that kept me safe.. and even though the experience was horrible, it was extremely healing. Definitely recommend!

The greatest mystery for me is the question of why do i experience life from my particular point of view. Is it not that awareness is not located anywhere and all inclusive, why it seems to be attached to my persona? It is said that whatever you look at you are that. If I look at dog and myself there is obvious difference in experience. I can never experience dog from its point of view, why is that if I am universal consciousness? I am well aware of eternal present moment and just beeing here and now, but still the question of "why am i me?" I can not answer, is there even such answer or just mystery? Thank you!

@nowimhere Thanks!

Don't know if this relevant but recently made this drawing that i want to share ^^

So do you have direct experience of such Universe, can you describe it to us?

So you are telling us that the reality is imperfect? Its diametrically opposed to what 'other ' enlightened beings say. I thought "the act of just Being" is perfect as it is. Is notion of imperfection not someting mind would create, why chase the carrot?

So could you give example of mathematics that are used in other Universes, just pick one randomly and post it here, if you want. ^^

@Leo Gura you say this because all that's real is this present moment and everything else is mind stuff which is less real?

@zeroISinfinity Thanks!

@Leo Gura I actually understand this now, makes sense to me (when reading this, looked at my dog and had moment of existencial joy, knowing that she is actually me at one point in eternity) thank you! You mean when my particular body dies? I see

@Leo Gura But how will I ever know what its like to be You and vice versa? Is there a way for me to become conscious on how it is to be You for example? Is it even possible? I can understand that to be human it means experiencing reality from one particular center that you find yourself in. Im just wondering will I ever know whats it like to be multicentered ( apparently what enlightenment is like). What would be your suggestion, should I perhaps treat this problem as mystery and leave it at that?

@Aaron p Okay I understand that you dont need to have an mental image "I" to be and exist. Even if my sense of "I" is false i still experience life from my point of view, I just dont understand what is the criteria for awareness to center out from my body-mind (even if it is a relative truth).

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@Danioover9000 Im so envious of you. All my life i wished for miracle like that, being able to comunicate with the "spiritual realm" . Yet, nothing of sorts have happened durring all my life..All alone, even on psyhadelics there is just nothing but me, its kinda sad even..

@winterknight Hello kindred spirit So, is it true that in order to find That which I seek, I need to discard my waking state mind(all my sense impressions) , and be open to possibility that non of this is real, and focus my attention to that which I can not know, that which I feel is totally out of this reality? Or should I focus on the awareness and my who is experiencing all this? Bless you ^^

@winterknight I just can't find That, whatever it is or is not.. All I'm left is this boring reality, or maybe I'm just depressed. The mind is very still and silent but it can not penetrate the so called "mysteries" of awareness.

@winterknight well I can't find anyone who is aware of awareness.. Seems like I'm a paradox, I feel I exist yet I can't find who is that exist, god damn it!!!

@winterknight Hey, I'm conflicted a bit again.. Is awareness all there is? Is there nothing else? Am I all that I'm looking at? What will happen when body-mind dies?