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@Ry4n Infinities within Infinities could be described as Absolute Infinity. @machiavelli I wanted to write shapeshift. Right now only the appearances of this present moment exist relative to your Infinitude. These appearances can change. Yes.

I don't see how one Infinity would limit another Infinity. If we take the solipsism view, then your experience right now is the only one that exists right now, out of Infinitely many. And this consciousness bubble can shift into any other possible form. And the exact same could be happening with other bubbles too simultaneously. Why would this limit the first Infinity? You are Infinite because nothing limits you. But I think there still could be something outside you. That's why you are an Infinity and not the Absolute Infinity. There is nothing outside Absolute Infinity. But Absolute Infinity could include many Infinities.

Why shouldn't it be possible that there are multiple entire existences of everything

Or maybe something like that is not possible because due to the nature of Absolute Infinity there might always be infinitely more bubbles out there that haven't merged yet.

But why shouldn't it be possible that there are multiple consciousnesses. If one consciousness can exist for whatever reason, then other consciousness should be able to exist too, due to the same reason.

I think consciousness as whole is One and Alone (Absolute Infinity). But you, your Infinite consciousness is not alone. I think these bubbles could be disconnected, but I think it's far more likely that some bubbles (all bubbles that could be thought of sharing this earth reality) are connected with your bubble right now. So your actions have a direct impact on other bubbles. These bubbles co-exist. And it is possible to merge them. So if you and your friend were insanely advanced, you could merge your bubbles into one. Then you would be conscious of you and him simultaneously, and he as well. So this then would be one bubble and no longer two.

That makes sense. But maybe there is a good explanation for how seperate bubbles can exist and we just don't have that explanation yet.

What do you mean? But why shouldn't there be many existences doing that. If one existence can exist, then many should be able to exist too.

Consciousness includes everything you are conscious of. Unconsciousness 'begins' where consciousness ends, when you are not conscious of something.

I guess what you are conscious of is not all that exists. And all these bubbles are seperate, but still One in the sense that it's all ultimately consciousness, and consciousness is identical and One. I think these bubbles can merge or further split. And I guess it is also possible that some of these bubbles kind of co-exist in a shared reality. That each bubble imagines what others imagine too, like that the moon exists.

If there are seperate bubbles, then it should easily be possible that seperate bubbles can merge into one bubble. And if it is possible that there is a mechanism that allows seperate bubbles to merge into one, then it should also be possible that this mechanism can work in reverse and bubbles can split. I guess this is circular logic but still kind of consistent. If bubbles can merge, then that means that the scenario of all bubbles merging into one single bubble is also possible. And that would be true Absolute Solipsism. But it should also be possible that bubbles split themselves infinitely many times. And each bubble still has the same nature of Infinite consciousness. Therefore each bubble, in the state of Infinite consciousness can appear like absolute solipsism without it actually being absolute solipsism. So that would mean that it is theoretically possible that right now your bubble is the scenario of all bubbles merging into one and thus true Absolute Solipsism. But it is far more likely that it just seems like Absolute Solipsism and there still are infinitely other bubbles. The chance of your bubble right now being the true Absolute Solipsism is Infinitely small.

You are everything you are conscious of. And other Gods are everything that they are conscious of. So maybe you could say the line of separation is unconsciousness. Unconsciousness is non-existent, so in that regard there is no separation and they are One. In that way Absolute Infinity is still One. And yet each sub-Infinity is still distinct and seperate in a sense.

@Michael Jackson Why should absolute existence be limited to one Infinity? If there can be one Infinity then there surely can be many Infinities.

It could have been just his imagination with no God behind it, but it could just as well have been another God. You can't be certain. You are God, but I don't think you can be 100% certain that other such Gods don't exist too.

I think you are Infinite. And your Infinity is solipsistic because anything you can ever become conscious of is you and in that sense there can be no other. Or at least you can never be sure about a other. Even if your solipsistic Infinity feels absolute, then that doesn't necessarily mean that other such solipsistic Infinites aren't out there too. What would prevent them from existing? From a direct experience perspective, you can never know whether there are or aren't. I think there are infinitely many such consciousness bubbles / Infinities and they can exist isolated or co-exist. The way most people think about dreams, that would be an example of an isolated existence. You imagine everything and your dream characters (as well as every atom) are not Infinities themselves. An example of co-existence would be what most believe to be how life on earth is. Everyone is Infinite and Consciousness and God and is imagining everything. These bubbles might coordinate these imaginations together. If you are talking with someone and that person jumps, then you imagine that person jumping and that person imagines himself/herself jumping as well. In that regard your actions affect other's bubbles. So during waking life you are connected to that collective and during dreaming you are disconnected. At least that's how it seems. You can't be 100% sure. You could theoretically be disconnected the whole time. But I think that's extremely unlikely. You can't know for sure whether there are other Gods, because at the moment of becoming conscious of something like that, it becomes you and part of your Infinity. But I think that is just how it seems to us based on our current level. I think it might be possible to directly know about other Gods without making them part of you as a consequence. Omnipotent Gods could surely figure out a way how to do that.

When your state of consciousness becomes high enough, it becomes impossible to keep surviving physically. The only reason why enlightened people are alive is because they are not 100% devoted to the enlightened state. They are devoted both to the human state as well as to the enlightened state. The human state, the biasedness, is what keeps them alive.

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I was writing about being unbiased vs biased. And that from a human pov, it is better to be biased, because in that way it is more likely to experience the good. Because when you are unbiased you allow both bad and good. I wrote this for living life in general. This doesn't at all mean that striving to make the seperate self Immortal is necessary for a good post death experience. The process of making the seperate self Immortal as described in that first post can be done to increase goodness after physical death. But I don't think it's the only way. It's just one way. For example, some new age people say that the post death experience depends on your vibration and intent. That you can go to great realms with your intent alone. I think that could easily be true. That you don't have perfect lucidity and that the seperate self starts dissolving, could possibly be a feature of this realm we are currently in. But if you go to a different realm after physical death, then rules can be different there. That means there it might be very easy to keep lucidity and maintain the seperate self, even if you did no preparatory work during physical life. Just by having a strong intent and wanting to get to such a great realm might be enough to get there. I think that is a very real possibility. Maybe not a certainty. But neither is the philosophy of my first post. Both are theories.

This post is about the process of preventing the seperate self from dissolving after physical death, so that it continues to exist with full control and lucidity. This post is based on John Kreiter's book "the way of the death defier" (as well as "the way of the projectionist"). I'm basically summarizing the main concept and adding my own spin. This post is obviously not about becoming more enlightened. But it isn't necessarily about becoming less enlightened either. There are 2 kinds of no-self. Becoming conscious how the seperate self is an illusion (relative to that state of consciousness). This realization is not in contradiction with the topic of this post. You can strengthen the seperate self and at the same time be awake and conscious of its illusory nature. This realization is in the pure consciousness dimension. Actually dissolving the seperate self. The more you do it, the more difficult it will become to survive, and eventually that seperate self completely dissolves (at that point the physical body is dead). So this process is indeed in contradiction with the topic of this post. That process tends to be more in the void dimension (more nuance later) - What You Are I recently made this post about the layers of the self from a more non-dual perspctive, maybe that post helps to reconcile this post here with non-duality. We are made of two components (from a dualistic perspective) Consciousness Appearances These appearances range from gross to subtle. Let's go down from gross to subtle: Mental stuff and activity like thoughts and images. Here is the intellect and here happens understanding and recognition. Appearances of a seperate self. These are made of energy and intangible stuff like a personality and a sense of self. Unconscious data. Here is stored everything that is unconscious to the seperate self These appearances from gross to subtle are like a vertical line from up to down. Ultimately everything is consciousness. So let's merge this vertical line with consciousness. This vertical line correlates to some extend with the Alertness Dimension: By merging each of the 3 layers with consciousness we get (now I use John Kreiter's terms): The conscious self. The conscious self is made of mental activity (like recognition) + enough consciousness (which is the case when the alertness dimension is high enough). There might be some mental activity during deep sleep and dreams but the alertness dimension is too low, therefore the conscious self is dead, as a result these sleep stages are unconscious relative to you. During waking life there is also mental activity and the alertness dimension is higher, therefore the conscious self exists during waking life. When the conscious self exists and the self-referential recognition (recognizing that you exist, that you are conscious, that you are alive. Being present and mindful rather than being on autopilot like most people are 99% of their day) is strong enough you are lucid. Conscious self + self-referential recognition = lucidity. I guess the conscious self is what most people are identified with. The Ghost in the Machine. The appearances of a seperate self alone don't really form a real entity. But if we merge these appearances with consciousness, then it's a real entity. Let's use the term ghost in the machine because that's how John Kreiter calls it. Relative to ego consciousness, this entity/self is real and exists. Relative to an enlightened state of consciousness this entity is illusory (relative to that state, you are consciousness conscious of these appearances). The ghost in the machine has intent and desires. It can observe the body and thoughts. And it is able to control the body and thoughts (but usually most thoughts are not thought by it). The ghost in the machine can interact through a pysical body, but it can also leave that body and interact through a astral body. At physical death, the ghost in the machine continues to live. Relative to this whole post, what you are is not the conscious self (,or non-dual consciousness) but that ghost in the machine. The Unconscious. By merging unconscious data with consciousness we get "the unconscious". It might sound contradictory to say that the unconscious is partly made of consciousness. But ultimately everything is consciousness. It's just that relative to ego, relative to the ghost in the machine, this is unconscious. It works similar as with deep sleep. Actually there is still a sliver of consciousness there, but it's too little for the ghost in the machine to remenber this experience (similar to how it can remember dreams) because the alertness dimension is too low. Therefore deep sleep appears like unconsciousness relative to the ghost in the machine. By most people's definitions, the unconscious is the soul. There is a collective unconscious (human oversoul) and our unconscious/soul is a small part/extension of that. The Unconscious is also where all the power lies (as explained Here). - What happens at physical death? Most new age people agree that the nonphysical part of us survives physical death. And they say that this part then reincarnates after some time. But this is too unnuanced. If we look at reincarnation reports, then yes it looks like there is a constant between different lives, like something continues from life to life. But there are also major differences between these different incarnations, the main one is personality. From what I know, in each live you have a new personality, a new ego, a new self. John Kreiter says that the unconscious is the constant during these incarnations. Evolution from life to life happens because apart from formeless consciousness, also the unconscious data goes from life to life. So in your next incarnation, you would still have the same (or some of the same) unconscious data and then new unconscious data is formed in addition. In that way evolution happens. The conscious self and the ghost in the machine die with physical death (or some time after). In each new life, a new ghost in the machine and a new conscious self is created. So the conscious self and the ghost in the machine don't reincarnate. From a more spiritual perspective, what you ultimately are is the unconscious (the soul), and relative to that you are already immortal, and have many more incarnations. So relative to the soul, it is not bad when the ghost in the machine dies. Relative to the ghost in the machine, this incarnation is the only incarnation, it is the first life it has ever lived. And relative to it, this dissolution of the ghost in the machine might not be positive (unless you are detached or enlightened). So up to the point of dissolution you (the ghost of the machine) might resist the idea of dissolution. But at the point of dissolution you (the soul) realizes that it never was the ghost in the machine and that it's dissolution is not bad, it's like changing clothes. So whether that dissolution is bad or good depends on the perspective. So at the point of physical death, the conscious self usually dies too (in the same way that it dies during deep sleep and dreams). But the ghost in the machine plus the unconscious keep living. This after death experience is very similar to dreams. Due to no conscious self, there is usually less lucidity than during waking life (but probably still more than during normal dreams). Now that you've left the physical realm, everything is made of energy. So it's all about energy. Your ghost in the machine is also made of energy. It has a certain amount of energy, and when that energy runs out (that could be seconds, days, months, or millions of years after physical death, depending on the amount of energy), then the ghost in the machine dissolves. At that point only the unconscious is left, and then it can reincarnate again and form a new ghost in the machine. (John Kreiter actually says that it first merges with the oversoul and has a blissful oneness experience there. And it's actually even more complicated than that, he explains it in his book). There are also paralells with other perspectives. For example Tom Campbell says something very similar. He essentially says that the character dies after death, and only the soul reincarnates and creates a new character. There is also a paralell with some eastern systems who have the concept of "the second death". So the after death experience is dream-like. In the beginning you might still be here on our plane and see your actual dead physical body. But this plane usually fades more and more into the distance and then you are like in a void and everything is created by your unconscious (like during dreams). But it's also possible that real entities come and help you (for example helping you to take control of your experience). And I think it's also possible that you go to objective astral planes, like the christian heaven. But I don't think you can stay there forever, because at some point the energy of your ghost in the machine runs out and you dissolve. So how to make the ghost in the machine immortal? There are 2 main components to this: lucidity and energy. - Energy Without energy there is no life. It requires energy to do stuff, even just thinking thoughts requires energy. During physical life you get most of your energy from food (as well as prana from the air, sun, environment, external sources,...). That food energy source is no longer availabe after physical death. So there are two important things to do: Energetic containment. Means that you try to lose as little energy as possible. John Kreiter explains how to do that in his books. Energetic absorption. On the nonphysical plane there are places where there is energy floating around that no one needs anymore. So this is the replacement of physical food. Rather than eating external physical food which then your body converts into energy, you absorb energy directly. John Kreiter explains how to do that (most comprehensively in his magnum opus book). So someone who wants to make the ghost in the machine immortal, needs to practice these techniques while physically alive so that you know how to do them after physical death. If you manage to maintain your energy level after physical death you can theoretically live Infinitely long. - Lucidity But really the most important component of this whole process is lucidity. After physical death, you can't really do these energetic containment and absorption techniques without lucidity. Also without lucidity you have no control of what to experience. So the goal is that during the whole after physical death experience, you have uninterrupted full lucidity. For your physical life this means 3 things: Attaining lucidity during waking life (rather than being on autopilot) Attaining lucidity during all your dreams Attaining lucidity during all sleep stages And that essentially means that the most important practice for this whole process is sleep yoga If you manage to be conscious during all of your sleep, you will have full lucidity after physical death (that's also what tibetan buddhists say). - The complete Self The way I see it, if you are interested in making the ghost in the machine immortal, then sleep yoga is what the majority of your focus should be on. There are some more things that need to be done to make the ghost in the machine immortal, but I think these are relatively easy to achieve once you are conscious during all of your sleep. Attaining lucidity is essentially a merging of the ghost in the machine with the conscious self. And by becoming conscious of usually unconscious sleep stages, you merge the ghost in the machine with the unconscious too. So you merge these 3 parts into one Complete Self. There are more nuances and things involved to create this complete self, John Kreiter describes that in his book, he calls that part of the process the 5th room of the projectionist. - Some more points: When your ghost in the machine is immortal you can do whatever you like, explore Infinity or settle in a heaven-like place with like-minded real other beings Let's say you don't do this approach. Then still, the more spiritually advanced you are, and the more energy you naturally attained during life, and the more spiritual power you attained, and the more lucidity you attained, and the stronger your ghost in the machine became, and the more experience you have with OBEs, and ..... the more lucidity and control and energy you will have after physical death. And it might be enough to continue living for hundreds of years until the ghost in the machine dissolves and you finally merge back into the oversoul. John Kreiter explains all of that in more detail. If you are interested read his books! In this post I wrote what I think is most important. He mentions some other stuff and other practices too. But I don't think that most of these other practices are necessary. They can surely help but I think sleep yoga is the only component you should primarily think about if you are interested in all that stuff. But make your own opinion on it. John Kreiter is extremely advanced and knows far more than I on the topic. I think John is already conscious during all of his sleep and has been astral projecting for years maybe 8 hours each day. And that is just the time relative to the physical plane. Time runs differently in other more distant planes. He says it's possible to experience years during hours of physical time. That means John has spent MUCH time exploring and trying to understand how the death process works and what exactly happens after death. Based on my understanding and direct energetic perception so far, most of what he says makes a lot of sense. His perspective on the afterlife seems to be the one that makes most sense and can make sense of many other perspectives. But his perspective is not perfect there are some critique points. For example the white light of NDE reports. He says that this occurs probably when people have very little stored energy and they quickly merge with the oversoul. From the little I know about NDE reports, around 10% of people who survive a near death, report remembering an experience. And maybe around 70-90% of these experienced a white light. I think it could fit but it's not a perfect explanation that deals with all the complexities of NDE reports. The second critique would be that with his perspective it is not easy to make sense of some between life regressions where people report choosing their next live and so on. My best guess currently is that this all happens only to the unconscious and well, the unconscious is unconscious so the conscious mind can't really understand it. So with these inbetween lives regressions these people try to translate that data which is stored in the unconscious into sensical stuff that the mind can make sense of, and then these reports are the result. I'm not satisfied with that explanation yet. There are still inconsistencies. I think John Kreiter probably doesn't care about investing deeper into these things because for him it is completely obvious that the after death process works the way he describes, so he probably doesn't care about making sense of all the other post death experiences. But his perspective makes still a lot more sense than any other I've heard about. Despite that, it is still only one perspective. And the post death experience can be very diverse. So I think it is possible that other perspectives are true too, even if these perspectives have a seeming contradiction. So this perspective here doesn't automatically mean that any of your other perspectives are false. So if you don't like this perspective you could still go for one of the other perspectives in the new age community, but I don't know how likely it is that they are true, this then is up to you to decide. And even if this perspective is true and others false, there might still be other alternatives to this whole post death topic that are better, which are based on the same understanding, or at least have no contradiction with that understanding. (I know of two more alternatives but they sound far more crazy and far out. In case you want to know more about that you can pm me) Void dimension and Seperate Self. I wrote in the beginning that a high void dimension usually results in a weaker seperate self. However regarding this post, there is further nuance, because it is possible to have a high void dimension and at the same time a strong seperate self. Usually the higher the void dimension, the more the seperate self dissolves. But through intent and doing the practices of this post it is possibly to actually make that seperate self stronger despite a higher void dimension. In a few past posts I mentioned the term "conscious self" too, but there I used it in a different context with a different definition. John Kreiter uses the term "soul" differently, he calls the ghost in the machine the soul

@Taus The ego is NOT the problem. The ego is bias. So as long as the ego gets eveything it wants and it gets nothing of what it doesn't want, the ego is perfectly happy and in paradise. There are infinitely many such heavenly realms in Infinity and all egos in these heavens are perfectly happy. Suffering only begins when the ego doesn't get what it wants and gets what it doesn't want. And these realms can be regarded as hellholes. A all powerful God could theoretically create only perfect realms. But God is unbiased therefore God allows all scenarios of Infinity. God is all of Infinity. God loves all of Infinity because God's love is unconditional. So in a sense the problem is not that the ego is biased, but that God is unbiased.

Hi It can be very different from person to person. Some people have strong kundalini symptoms and crazy kriyas, and for others it might be very subtle or they feel nothing at all. Just having kundalini symptoms also doesn't mean the kundalini is awakening for real. From what I know, stuff like vibrations and pulsating in the spine and bliss energy going up to your brain, and bliss in general, belong to the more reliable signs of actual kundalini awakening. When the kundalini is fully awake and has completed it's purification process then you might intuitively feel that the job is done. (The process probably keeps going, on ever more subtle layers, but relatively speaking, the big stuff is done.) Someone who is very psychic or a good kundalini teacher might be able to tell you where you are in the kundalini process.

Ratings Rating different models of consciousness, entities and techniques regarding their percentage distribution of the different dimensions of consciousness. That means these are not absolute numbers. That means if for example one technique has 60% void and another technique has 60% void too, then that doesn't mean that they target the void dimension equally strongly. One technique could easily target the void dimension 10 times as strongly. It just means that the relative share of void is 60% for both techniques. Ramaji's 1000 LOC Scale from 600-1000: pure consciousness (100%) David Hawkins 1000 LOC Scale from 600-1000: magnitude (50%), void (25%), pure consciousness (25%) 10 Ox Herding Pictures: pure consciousness (50%), void (45%), magnitude (5%) Law Of One 7 Density Model, beyond 3rd density: magnitude (80%), pure consciousness (10%), void (10%) Non-Physical Gods (like Zeus) and Angels: magnitude (80%), void (12%), pure consciousness (8%) Ascended Masters: magnitude (40%), pure consciousness (30%), void (30%) Advanced Invocations: magnitude (40%), void (30%), pure consciousness (30%) Psychedelics: void (45%), pure consciousness (35%), magnitude (20%) 5-MeO-DMT: pure consciousness (60%), magnitude (25%), void (15%) Brahman Consciousness: void (70%), magnitude (20%), pure consciousness (10%) Sleep Yoga: void (80%), magnitude (10%), pure consciousness (10%) I made these ratings on the fly. Based on my experiences, psychic perception, understanding, and assumptions. So these ratings might be far from accurate but maybe they help to better understand these different dimensions. It is extremely likely that I will change my mind about these ratings at some point.

For someone who is interested in ensuring ongoing good, it doesn't automatically mean to avoid high states. For such a person, high states are great, except for the unbiasedness. So such a person might want to attain a high state and have the love and bliss and peace, but at the same time maintain bias. That means, taking all the good (good relative to the perspective of the seperate self) from enlightenment (= love, bliss, peace, oneness) but without taking the bad (bad relative to the perspective of the seperate self) from enlightenment (= unbiasedness, dissolution of the seperate self, unrealness). So that is no longer a full complete enlightenment. But it is also no longer a full complete ego state. It is a combination. Taking the good from both, and leaving out the bad from both.

You have that selfless enlightened attitude as long as you are in that high state. But once you are in a low and bad state again, that attitude completely flies out the window. And you suffer just as much as anyone else in similar states. And some other guy who is still in that high state will tell you how your hell is actually good.

The high state is good relative to that high perspective. But in that high state you are unbiased, so nothing prevents you from eventually lowering that state again and experiencing suffering again. And then you are in a state which is bad relative to that perspective. So this high and good state is not exclusively high and good, it also entails the low and good and the low and bad. There are basically 3 options: Low and bad Low and good High and good + low and bad + low and good Having only high and good is only possible for a limited period of time, because due to your unbiasedness you eventually allow low and bad as well as low and good. You essentially allow all of Infinity. Whereas if you exclusively choose low and good, then that can theoretically stay that way, because your bias towards the good protects you from wanting the low and bad. The only way to ensure ongoing goodness is by being biased towards low and good.