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Forget about pada, I have found a technique that is way more powerful: Pada works. I was doing it for about 10 weeks and had 14 lucid dreams that lasted on average 2 minutes and 5 lucid dreams with 7 seconds on average (perceived time). during most of the weeks I put all my attention on pada. It's way too much effort. Disadvantages of pada: you can only lucid dream during REM and only as long as the REM phase lasts. you have to be aware almost every minute of every day plus constantly be checking whether it's a dream (if you want frequent lucid dreams). This is very exhausting and boring. And it prevents you from doing other stuff effectively. It would take many many months till it could become effortless. pada leads to DILDs (dream induced lucid dreams) that means the lucid dreams will probably never be as stable, vivid, long and with as much dream control as a WILD (WILD is superior because you enter the dream with your full day-time consciousness). But all these things are very important if we want to use lucid dreams to have mystical experiences The other technique (the one in the link above) solves all these problems.

That sounds fair:) Another question: Mystics often can't communicate with spirits as well as clairvoyants can. You solve that by working together with your fiance. Another possibility, for us poor fellows who don't have a hot witch girlfriend yet, could be to meet and communicate with them in lucid dreams. Should work, right?

@Matt8800 Very interesting posts! Thank you You wrote that the way to deal with parasitic entities and 'evil' spirits is to appear like a dangerous predator and threaten them. Somewhere else I heard that you should just love them. Such entities feed off of fear, anxiety, etc so If you are totally fearless, full of love and express it to them then that might work too, right? Or do you think the other way is more powerful? I had been wondering how to reconcile power and love and your posts have shed some light on it and helped me to also embrace power and balance them better. But I would still prefer to get rid of such entities through love

I gave it some more thoughts. (Sleep yoga is about staying conscious during dreamless sleep. You are no longer conscious of the body, only awareness of awareness remains.) So here is my new take: 1. What I called exiting the dream is probably the same thing as turning dream yoga into sleep yoga, thus becoming aware of awareness as awareness. 2. There are no imagined mystical experiences. If you have an awakening inside a dream, then that's the actual thing, depending on how deep the awakening, it can't be considered happening inside a dream anymore. (This is my new assumption, I am not sure). That also means that LaBerge (the guy from the video) probably merged into the actual Emptiness. I see two opportunities/options: 1. Sleep yoga. If you learn sleep yoga then you can abide in nondual awareness during the whole night. Usually, you achieve this by not losing awareness when the body falls asleep (but I don't think it's like WILD. Because with WILD you are still conscious of the body. And I doubt that all the lucid dreamers who can successfully WILD can stay aware during dreamless sleep). This usually takes years to achieve. An easier way to experience it is through lucid dreams. You dissolve everything till only awareness of awareness remains. Or do it like Andrew Holecek. In the book Dream Yoga page 236, he says that it works best for him to "close my lucid dream eyes, hold my breath, and take the plunge through my dream ground". If you are very advanced, you can remain in this awareness the rest of the night, independent of REM or non-REM cycles. 2. So far, I only read about awareness of awareness during sleep yoga, which doesn't seem like a comprehensive awakening. Probably you can turn it to other directions too. But I would prefer this way: Instead of dissolving the dream first, just induce a facet of awakening first and then dissolve the dream. My assumption is, that at the beginning, this is still happening inside the dream (or rather you are perhaps 80% still in the dream and already 20% outside/beyond the dream), but if you go deep enough, you completely dissolve the dream and get to the pure and actual facet of awakening, beyond the dream. Here you can probably stay at the most till the REM cycle ends. But I believe you can extend this to the whole night if you are advanced.

@AlwaysBeNice @seeking_brilliance @mandyjw Thanks for sharing

Sexual energy transmutation can be powerful. Here are some good books: Here a yogi: (Though I wouldn't take everything too literally what he says)

@TrynaBeTurquoise Thank you! The critical part is around 18:50-19:05. Here he says that he goes beyond the body into Emptiness. Was this Emptiness still an imagination, a part of the dream or did he merge into the actual Emptiness? I tend towards that it was still in the dream, but ain't sure...

I have a question: Is it possible to exit a lucid dream and merge into the actual Godhead? Obviously, you can have mystical experiences in lucid dreams. You can see that everything is the Self, can dissolve the dream scene into pure Light and have insights into Love, Consciousness, .... But all that is still produced by your mind, or God's mind, you are still dreaming and not at the very Source yet. If you take psychedelics in waking life you can 'exit' this reality and merge back into the actual Godhead/Source/Love/Nothingness. So is this also possible to do from a dream? Actually it should be possible because this reality and dream reality are both equally an imagination by God. So it should be possible to exit both, right? Perhaps you would just wake up? What do you think?

Good idea. But I would spend the first 10-30 lucid dreams getting used to being lucid, learning how to stabilize and increase dream control. If you do something exciting in your first dreams then you will wake up prematurely and waste lucid time.

Funny that we both got into lucid dreaming with pada at roughly the same time. I've had similar experiences, but that will definitely improve over time. When did you try it? after 6h? Then try after 4.5 or 3h. The REM phases are shorter but it might still be worth it. Or try a different supplement. Or add a supplement that helps falling asleep. Or just meditate and try to have as little thoughts as possible, that helps to fall asleep.

Splitting Consciousness Splitting your consciousness means that your are not only aware of the body sensations, thoughts, ect ... of this body but also of other bodies. Interesting things to do 1. Split your consciousness into a male and female body and have sex 2. Split your consciousness into warriors and fight against each other 3. Enlightenment-related: That one is a bit more complex. I don't have an extremeley solid understanding of enlightenment yet so I hope I am not talking nonsense. But to me it seems like there are basically two kinds of enlightenment experiences. The first kind, you may realize facets like no self and that you are God, but the body is still there. The second kind is, when the body and world is gone. You are pure Consciousness/Love/Godhead/Nothingness. Now, if you are very enlightened (baseline consciousness) - let's say like Jesus - then it is still not quite God-Consciousness because you are only conscious of your body sensations, thoughts,... but not of other people's. So there are still seperate consciousnesses (or souls). However, if splitting consciousness in dreams is possible then that might intruduce an interesting possibility. Let's say there are 100 people. You split your consciousness and become all 100 people (thus are conscious of all their body sensations, ect...) and now you induce the first-kind enlightenment experience. Don't know whether that's worth it but it seems interesting. I haven't yet read "The Law of One" books but watched some videos (by Aaron Abke). When our bodies die then we return back to the Godhead/Oness (from the Absolute perspective), but from the relative perspective our soul keeps incarnating and evolving. According to the Law of One books, there are 7 densities of consciousness - stages where the soul evolves through and in the end returns to total Oneness. We are currently 3rd density. If we get deeply enlightened, the soul will probably incarnate into 4th or 5th density after our physical death. So the journey from the relative perspective isn't over yet. Ra (the chanelled entity) says that in 4th density so called "social memory complexes " start forming. Like a super entity that is conscious of the body sensations, thoughts, memories of all its 'members'. These social memory complexes grow till they include every individual seperate consciousness and then merge into Oneness. Now the soul(s) has merged into the Godhead from the relative perpective too. (I'm making assumptions here, so don't believe everything blindly:) ). It seems that such a social memory complex could be similar if not the exact same thing as what might be able to be done in lucid dreams. So in lucid dreams you might get a glimpse how your soul's future journey might look like. You can (if it's possible) slowly include all humans, all animals, all beings till you are conscious of all and are All. Now back to the original topic Is splitting your consciousness in dreams possible? Some reports by people: "In my dream I was both flying a plane and watching myself fly the plane, i was on the ground, and in the plane at the same time, watching myself fly, and in the plane trying not to crash, it was a VERY vivid and strange dream, I will never forget it." https://www.dreamviews.com/general-dream-discussion/124481-split-consciousness-dream.html "I was one person, but in two places experiencing two different things. One 'version' of myself was playing xbox, holding the controller and watching my avatar on the screen. My other self was the avatar in the game, physically running through a forest chasing after someone. I experienced both selves in the first person, at the same time but independently - it wasn't simply as if two views were superimposed. At the time, it seemed perfectly natural to be aware of being two people at once, but after waking up, I soon gave up trying to remember exactly how it felt." https://www.dreamviews.com/general-dream-discussion/124481-split-consciousness-dream.html "Basically you split yourself into 2 separate dream bodies, separate awareness. Not mere clones but bodies with which you can perceive the world through separately. Both bodies have completely separate vision, hearing, touch, ect. If you can do this, then you can effectively split into 2 and have 2 completely separate dreams simultaneously. In short, you can have 2 full and separate dreams in the same time frame as you would normally only have 1 dream. You can then continue splitting your awareness to increase the amount of content that can be perceived in the same amount of time." https://www.dreamviews.com/dream-control/101908-time-dilation-techniques-2.html (2nd page, 3rd post) "(...) we can manifest those multiple selves in a dream. Rather than simply having our attention divided, in dream we can divide into different, simultaneously existing dream bodies." - book: The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep by Tenzin Rinpoche, page 122 "There are times in dreams where I control multiple people at once, and I’m quite confident that I could superposition my awareness between many different areas if I could be free to do so, which I believe would come with practice/experience ." https://www.reddit.com/r/Damokian/comments/b2z98e/astral_projection_is_the_key_to_everything/ "When I had a dream the other night (non-lucid) it was all sort of jumbled up and I remembered parts of it, and they seemed to overlap. It was quite a long dream, and it felt like I was in more than one place at once in some parts of it." https://www.dreamviews.com/beyond-dreaming/33935-split-consciousness.html https://www.reddit.com/r/LucidDreaming/comments/ttt5r/splitting_consciousness_in_dreams/ Most of these people didn't even intend it, let alone practice it. So is it possible? I believe so. I will try to find out. Splitting your consciousness really opens the doors to many possiblities, now you can experience many dreams at once, and thus experience much dream content within a short amount of real time.

In a dream, you don't need a knive or bullet to physically die. You can just dissolve the body. And whether the knive or bullet harms you or not depends on your expectation.

Guide to becoming lucid in every dream (omnilucidity) How to get lucid DILD (dream induced lucid dream). That's the way to go. Techniques from wakefulness like WILD, MILD, ect... Only WILD can reliably get you lucid. But even if you have mastered the technique, you will only be getting lucid once or twice each day. It also takes time and is not as natural as DILD, therefore I don't like it as The solution. But I do think everyone interested in lucid dreaming should master WILD, MILD, DEILD, FILD at some point. There are many more but I find theses the most important/effective. Mastering DILD DILD is when you realize that you are dreaming and then become lucid. The reason why we are not getting lucid in every dream is because we are not lucid in waking life (and not questioning it). So I think the key to getting lucid in every dream is: ada (all day awareness) just be aware every second of every day. https://www.dreamviews.com/induction-techniques/113253-all-day-awareness-dild-tutorial-kingyoshi.html . Eventually this will carry into your dreams and you will get aware when dreaming = lucid. But I don't feel like that's enough. If you want omnilucidity then I would add what I call: pada (potentially-a-dream awareness) You want your mind to be constantly checking whether this is a dream. Or to have the awareness that this could potentially be a dream. It feels like projecting dream-potential-ness onto reality (or de-projecting the realness). Thus everything is your dream sign. It does not involve thoughts or anything that would prevent you from doing your daily tasks effectively. It's more like a knowing/seeing/acknowledgeing/wondering/mindset/attitude. I have been trying to train my mind for that, now when I'm writing this my mind is at the same time checking whether this is a dream. At my current stage, it still does make writing a bit more challenging and I still struggle to keep the pada, but I believe that once I have trained my mind enough, it will be almost effortless and not negatively affect other activities like writing. Additional possibilities: https://www.dreamviews.com/attaining-lucidity/158958-fryingmans-unified-theory-lucid-dreaming-pay-attention-reflect-recall-both-day-night.html a) always be aware of your location. Is it familiar? (dreams are mostly in unfamiliar environments). b) always be aware whether you need to breathe or blink. https://www.dreamviews.com/attaining-lucidity/148056-omnilucidity-constant-rc-tech-lucid-100%-time.html c) always recall how you got here (that will also improve dream recall). d) Have "humans" as your dream sign. You can add them or do these instead, but I do only ada and pada. If you do ada and pada then you will also massively build your concentration and mindfullness skill which translates into more stable and longer lucid dreams. A concern of mine was whether this would negatively impact my meditation practise. I guess, if you don't meditate more than 2 hours a day then you can forget about pada during meditation and focus fully on meditation. And I guess that this is possible (to forget about pada) even if you have trained your mind to do it all the time. But I usually try to keep doing pada during meditations because I don't find that it distracts me much and currently lucid dreaming is a far higher priority than meditations for me. ( Once you are good at this, you can merge this with self-inquiry (so your mind would effortlessly be doing all three every second) to superboost your enlightenment journey) How to I recommend that you spend about 2-6 weeks training ada. Till you manage to be aware about 80% of the day. Then start adding pada. If it helps, you can at the beginning use thoughts like "is this a dream?". But eventually you want to have the wondering/mindset without any thoughts. It's very tricky and subtle. It is extremely difficult and exhausting trying to do this all the time and it takes some time till you see results. I will soon post a progress report. If you choose that approach then you basically need to invest almost no time but extremely much willpower and peserverence. If you are someone who needs an additional challenge and enjoys sds then that's for you Additionally Without good dream recall you can forget about omnilucidity. So have a dream journal and use your intention and affirmations to remember your dreams Before-bed routine. I will post on it in the future conventional reality checks (RCs) Affirmations, Intention, law of attraction Herbs, supplements, vitamins: They can increase your chances of getting lucid (some good ones are dream leaf, huperzine a and Galantamine). Also interesting are dream psychedelics (like the african dream root), they will increase your chance of getting lucid and getting non-dual. Lucid dream masks/devices. (But I'm no big fan of those) binaural beats might help REM phases (where you dream) get longer the longer you sleep

Before some people get too excited, if you don't have much time then I wouldn't recommend to learn lucid dreaming for enlightenment and rather keep doing the other approaches. But If you do have the time (actually you don't have to invest very much time if you are determined and disciplined as fuck, and that's rare), then it is likely to pay off long term.

@Raptorsin7 If you are also interested in how it can facilitate enlightenment then I can recommend these two books: - The tibetan yogas of dream and sleep by Tenzin Rinpoche - Dream Yoga by Andrew Holecek but most of it I got from youtube videos and some from blogs and forums. My favourite youtube channel is "HowToLucid" because he is also getting somewhat into spirituality. But the other youtubers are very good too. Otherwise just google. I found reddit and dreamviews very helpful.

Depends on how much effort you put in. If you are very ambitious, you are very likely to have a lucid dream(s) within the first few weeks. But it may take some more months to get really good at dream control. But if you are doing everything right and put in the effort, then it's definitely not years.

Definitely. And you don't even have to be very good at lucid dreaming for that! You obviously can't cause stuff like muscle growth, but you still improve. whether you are playing tennis in this reality or while dreaming, it makes no difference to what's happening in your real brain. So you do learn and can thus improve or learn any skill you want.

No, I haven't done that. I don't think it's worth the effort. Even monks and yogis usually need years to achieve this. It would be non-dual but I don't think it's a super deep enlightened state. So putting your time in other approaches like lucid dreaming might be more time-efficient, but I have still too little understanding to make a reliable assumption. (btw lucid dreams are probably the best gateway to getting into this state where you are aware during non-REM sleep) Yes, I'm gonna share it tomorrow

Time Dilation Most lucid dreamers are sure that time dilation in lucid dreams is not possible. But I believe that it might be. I'm not talking about "false memories" but about actually having more time in dreams. I stumbled on a post by Mylynes in the forum dreamviews.com , he writes QUOTE: " Using these 2 main techs in combination with many minor techs has allowed me to perceive many years of dream content in a mere 2 hours of sleep. I have also had times in which I have slept for over 24 hours and dreamed for what felt like hundreds of years, to the point where I had forgotten many things from irl. I felt as if I could remain their indefinitely (or near indefinitely) but I always choose to come back for some reason or other. These days, since I tend to spend much more time in my dreams than the waking world, instead of keeping a dream journal I keep a sort of thisworld journal which I use to keep from forgetting important things irl. I write before bed and read upon waking to reintegrate myself into this world. Good luck with time dilation guys, from my experience it has mostly been simply a case of much practice and much trial and error. " His two main techniques are: QUOTE: " The first is fairly simple, and anyone with enough dream control and control over their senses should be able to do with practice. Basically you split yourself into 2 separate dream bodies, separate awareness. Not mere clones but bodies with which you can perceive the world through separately. Both bodies have completely separate vision, hearing, touch, ect. If you can do this, then you can effectively split into 2 and have 2 completely separate dreams simultaneously. In short, you can have 2 full and separate dreams in the same time frame as you would normally only have 1 dream. You can then continue splitting your awareness to increase the amount of content that can be perceived in the same amount of time. The other main tech I use, is I have 1 of my bodies meditate in the hyperbolic time chamber from dbz. This is much harder to explain but is based mostly on visualization (using HUD clocks) and feeling which I doubt I can explain better than the ear muscle explanation. This body attempts to slow down (or speed up depending on perspective) perceived time for all of my dream bodies simultaneously. " link: https://www.dreamviews.com/dream-control/101908-time-dilation-techniques-2.html (2nd page, 3rd post) I see three possibilities: a) he is lying. But I doubt that. perhaps 10% b) it is possible, but only very few people are able to do it because of different brain chemistry, ect... perhaps 10% c) It is possible for everyone but just EXTREMELY difficult. Perhaps 80% If it is actually possible then that would be huge. You might quite literally become enlightened over night. You would have unlimited time to learn 100 instruments, practise social skills on billions of people or take millions of hours to find solutions to world's problems. How to learn time dilating: I guess your best bets are the above-mentioned techniques. I guess if you are serious about trying to learn them then you should be reliably getting lucid several times each night. I will post tomorrow what I think is the best approach for that.

Taking psychedelics in dreams definitely works. A while ago I started another thread (https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/40352-psychedelics-in-lucid-dreams/ ) where I wrote about it, but this additional thread is actually superfluous, so I just paste in here what I wrote there so all the information is in this thread: " Here are two links to forums where taking psychedelics in dreams is discussed: https://www.reddit.com/r/LucidDreaming/comments/68tk21/psychedelics_in_lucid_dreams/ https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=8317 advantages of taking psychedelics in dreams: - legal - no costs - you can invent your own super-powerful substance - very safe: overdosis and tough energetic experiences have probably no effect on waking life. Except the psychological component. If you can't handle it psycologically, then this will probably transfer to real life - No effort to get the psychdelics - No risk that the psychedelics are impure - no tolerance build up, thus you can trip every night - less fear and anxiety and thus less resistance because it is "just" a dream - You can get familar with psychedelics this way before trying them in waking life. Especially helpful to help prepare for 5-meo-dmt and similarly powerful ones Disadvantages - The trips are much shorter, as dreams are shorter. But if you are an experienced lucid dreamer, you can probably have lucid dreams 1-2 hours every night. And dreams often feel longer as they really are. - Many people report that the trips are not as powerful. But enlightenment experiences in dreams can be more deep than in real life. If I remember right, Leo said in a video (I think it was the DPT video) that after a DPT trip he had a dream where he had his deepest awakening up to this point - you have to learn how to lucid dream - you have to rely on getting lucid in the dream - if you have never tripped before or never had an enlightenment experience through meditation, then it could be a bit challenging to create/imagine the enlightenment experience - If you are too excited about the trip, you might wake up prematurely. But if you are experienced, this can probably be prevented "

Productive things to do in a lucid dream: - Enlightenment Imagine/will an awakenig experience into existence Psychedelics Self-Inquiry, contemplation Spiritual transmission by Jesus or God consciously die, face the fear of death DMT-Breathing Channelling find out the major block to you being enlightened in waking life - Personal Development Shadow work Face your fears Try to directly programm your subconscious mind Practice the law of attraction skill practise becoming an occultist Try to find your life purpose Transform yourself into animals and other people Die in a war and get tortured (to get more compassion and motivation to change something) Ask for solutions to your and world's problems try to access the collective unconscious to learn new stuff (very hard) Try to locate your chakras practice any skill you want Lucid dreams are a very good starting point for astral projection and clear light sleep (sleep where you stay aware of awareness) - Lucid Dreaming Dilate/slow down time (very hard, if possible at all) Split your consciousness into several bodies and experience several dreams at once - Means of achieving these things contemplate, materialize, become it materialize a person/object that embodies it ask a character or your subconscious ask for a situation/event that teaches/shows/embodies it I will address some of them in more detail (probably in this thread too). In lucid dreams you can do everything you want, but most things are way easier to do/achieve than in this reality. Feel free to add your ideas

I didn't get it. But of course, you don't need psychedelics in a dream, you can just will/imagine the awakening into existence. But that's much harder (except you are an experienced lucid dreamer), so I guess psychedelics can be helpful.

@remember As I understand it, (with a dry fast) it's not about flushing the toxins out but burning them. If you don't drink water then the body is in an even greater emergency mode and burns all that is not essential. It needs to burn all that stuff not only for energy but also for water. Somewhere I read that 1 day dry fast (therefore) equals to 3 days water fast. Though I guess that's not scientifically backed. Perhaps it doesn't equal 3 water fast days (or it does?) but probably at least 1.5 or 2. That's my guess at least...

@MountainCactus thanks a lot for your posts So the proper Kriya techniques seem to be better for enlightenment. How is it in terms of health? I have been doing the energetic versions by Gamana and feel the energy strongly in the physical body (but I don't have any of the typical negative kundalini symptoms). I am wondering whether this is healthy in the long-term. What do you think?

Based on the very little understanding I have, it just seems that a fast would go deeper than a detox with ghee alone, but I don't know . But if you mean the ghee plus Vamana, Basti,Nasaya, ect then it could be very powerful too, but doing these things at home might turn out difficult. That sounds like a very good approach. Dry fasts are even more effective than water fasts. So one would lose less weight with the same effects.