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That's already not true because many people on the forum have already taken psychedelics in dreams. And many other points on the list are also not that difficult like: figuring out the root cause of diseases, whole body orgasms, talking with guides and aliens, doing magick which affects your physical life and projecting to our physical dimension. These should be very attainable. The other points are more difficult though. The dreamed up substance is of course not the same as a real psychedelic and it itself doesn't cause a mystical experience, it's one's expectation. It doesn't matter whether a dream psychedelic is like one from real life. The important thing is whether it can give you a mystical experience. God can be accessed from every dimension, including the physical, the astral and dreams. So If you have the expectancy that the psychedelic will get you there then it will. And if you dream up for example LSD and expect it to have the same effects as real LSD, it will. It won't be from real LSD, but what's the difference? Though an issue could be that you imagine Nothingness/Love/God rather than experiencing the actual thing. But it is certainly possible to get to the real thing, so if you are aware of the issue and are good at OBEing, it shouldn't be too much of a problem. And perhaps it isn't a problem at all, and you automatically get to the actual 'thing'.

Some of them really take a lot of practice. If one had enough OBEs then they would be quite attainable though. That's why I'm excited about hypnosis. After having firmly anchored the Esdaile State, it should be possible to have OBEs whenever you want. That will enable you to practice a lot. And once projection during the whole night and splitting consciousness and time dilation is achieved, time is no more issue @OBEler How difficult is splitting your consciousness, have you done it? @herghly What techniques are you practicing?

If you manage to have it in your last thoughts before falling asleep (after a WBTB) then you have a good chance. But that won't necessarily make you lucid. Better have lucid dreaming as your last thoughts or reality checks. You might wanna look into MILD

Lucid dreams are a kind of OBEs. Dreams don't happen in your brain or inside you, while APs are outside and real. If you have an AP you project your consciousness to a place that was already there. It exists independently of you and you usually see other real beings. When you dream you project your consciousness also to a 'real place' but it's void. Its like you project into an empty soup, a kind of nothingness. So there is nothing independent there, so your subconscious creates an environment. That's because you are constantly projecting energy outward and it manifests as whatever is going on in your subconscious. If you practice energetic containment, as taught by John kreiter, you can reverse that process. You stop radiating energy outward, thus the environment fades away till you are in a kinda nothingness. This all takes place at a real 'place'. Therefore it is possible to visit other people's dreams or be visited by spirits or aliens in your dreams. So your dreams aren't private. And there is no hard line between AP and a dream. There can be already a bit of an independent scene, and you add your projections. So it becomes a mix of independent environment and your projections. Though I assume that most dreams are purely your subconscious creation. But John Kreiter says that they are (often) real worlds that will continue to exist and evolve after you end your dream, but I haven't fully understood that yet. What happens if you take psychedelics in 'real' life? Love/Consciousness/God is always here, but most people don't recognize it, like trying to see yellow when wearing red glasses. Psychedelics make you see what was always there. Dreams don't exist within this physical reality. They exist paralell to physical reality. So when dreaming you are just as close to Source as in waking life (or closer). So when you have a deep psychedelic trip in a dream, you probably don't imagine it but experience the actual thing as if you were taking psychedelics in real life. In real life psychedelics work by changing your brain chemistry. In dreams they work through expectation. So it is helpful if you already had mystical experiences. But it isn't necessary. It's enough that you have some theoretical knowledge about enlightenment or just try to genuinely find out what Reality is made of. And therefore you don't really need psychedelics in dreams, you could just do some kind of self-inquiry but psychedelics are probably more powerful because you know how powerful they are and therefore will probably get you deeper.

If you want very conscious lucid dreams, then you need WILDs (wake induced LDs) rather than DILDs (dream induced LDs). I believe hypnosis is the most effective and reliable way to achieve WILDs. If you are very good at hypnosis, you can have OBEs as often as you want. As for more in depth: if you mean dream stability: engage all your senses. Touch objects, rub your hands, look at things very closely and try to see every tint detail,... say "more stable" simple math like 5 + 7 This will make the dream more stable and you become more conscious. To further increase your consciousness you could do some kind of self reflexion and try to be conscious and not on auto-pilot. Most LDs are similar to waking life. In astral projections you can be more conscious than in waking life. And Marco Lorenz said that you are far more conscious in soul travels, it's supposed to be a whole nother level

If someone is having an astral projection and is very advanced, he could go to your sleeping body and pull your astral body out. Thus you would now be conscious in your astral body and would have a normal astral projection. Yes, both possible I haven't done much research on the grid itself yet. But interesting that you mention the spider web. Some Psychedelics reports talk about similar things. And Jonathan Dilas said that he observed spider-like creatures which help to keep us in the matrix. This might also explain our innate fear of spiders. Most people are afraid of spiders, while other insects are largely fine.

Not much, I'm still a beginner... Thanks! That looks interesting, I will soon give it a try.

Here is the hypnosis post: And here the part about OBEs: I have directed the vast majority of my focus to hypnosis, but I'm still doing some visualizations. I guess doing hypnosis is far more powerful than the visualizations, but they still have some value: The better your visualisation skill, the easier the transition between a trance and OBEs. In his OBE book John Kreiter talks about how to change dimensions. This will probably be easier to do when you have been doing the OBE visualizations If you are interested in John Kreiter's way to immortality then you need the OBE visualizations. Improved visualization skills are good for magick. If you have the time, then train both. If not, then I would focus on hypnosis.

I believe hypnosis is the most effective way to have OBEs. To get started learning going deep into trance I would start with the hypnosis audios I listed under " 5.2 Deep Hypnosis" If you can already go into trance, then do some self-hypnosis or use your anchor(s). Depending on how deep this gets you into trance, the hypnagogia will probably turn into a dream. Otherwise it's good to just observe the hypnagogia, not concentrate too much on it but also not too less. I believe on Dreamviews.com are some good tips on how to turn hypnagogia into dreams.

Time is an illusion. When you are advanced at OBEing, you can distort and dilate it as much as you like. But it's very difficult, otherwise more people would report doing it... And learning a skill in lucid dreams is even said to be more effective than learning it in real life, because you are in your subconscious. Combine that with time dilation

If you know some more benefits of OBEs then I would be happy to hear about them

How to reliably have OBEs If you want to induce an OBE (lucid dream, astral projection or soul travel) you need total body relaxation, then wait till you are in sleep paralysis then usually wait for the vibrations and then you can exit the body. You need your body to fall asleep while your mind stays awake.This is very difficult. Even if a beginner manages to do that, it will usually take more than an hour. Even for advanced people it takes usually 10-30+ minutes and doesn't have a 70+ success rate for most. I believe Hypnosis is the key. And there are 2 ways: 1.Esdaile State If you are able to enter the Eadaile State you have won. If you have anchored it you can enter it in less than 10 seconds. Thus you also immediately have perfect body and mental relaxation, more than what is required for OBEs. Most importantly you are very deep in trance, and you are already somewhat disconnected from your physical body, so it's relatively easy to induce an OBE from there. Particularly if you are in REM. Just set several alarms during the night which turn themselves off after a few seconds. Upon awakening, you go into the Esdaile State, then you should almost immediately perceive the vibrations and then be thrown into an OBE. The success rate should be very high. If you do a WBTB then it should also be very easy because you are in or close to REM. Doing it during the day will probbaly take a bit longer but should also be easy with practice. The problem is, there is close to no information about it anywhere. And I'm not there yet so I can't talk from direct experience yet. But Marco Lorenz says that you can very quickly induce OBEs from the Esdaile State even during the day. It is also possible to anchor the disconnect from the physical body, the shifting of your consciousness into a etheric body. So in case you have difficulties inducing OBEs from the Esdaile State during the day, then first practice during REM and anchor the disconnect. 2. Anesthesia and Amnesia First of all I would use hypnosis to achieve the body and mental relaxation needed for OBEs. A stepping stone to OBEs is sleep paralysis, so why not fake it with catalepsy? Even more powerful: Induce whole-body anesthesia (inability to feel/sense your body). Then it should be easy to get into the natural sleep paralysis. One more step would be to induce body amnesia, so that you have forgotten that you even have a physical body. But you need perfect anesthesia for this to work, or you would need to be distracted from your physical body like through visualizations. The nice thing is, that the body, mental relaxation, anesthesia and amnesia can - just like every hypnotic phenomon- be anchored. So you can induce them within a few seconds once you have them firmly anchored. If you want you can make a script including them. OBE Visualizations and Dimensional Shifts Visualizations can be seen as a bridge between the physical world and other worlds. If you want, you can visualize yourself being in a visualized/etheric body somewhere else once you are in the Esdaile State or have your body in anesthesia (and amnesia). Here I wrote about turning visualizations into full OBEs: Now I write an upgraded version. 1. Before you start the visualizations, go into the Esdaile State or have your body in anesthesia (and amnesia). 2. make the visualizations more powerful through what I call dimensional shifts. I got the idea from Marco Lorenz, he calls it Phasenverschiebung. But I have improved the concept. worlds within worlds: I don't know how it's called but in hypnisis is a concept that if you visualize a scene and then visualize how you go a layer deeper, it can create the illusion that you are actually deeper and further away from the physical reality. It's like inception, a dream within a dream. Many people report having dreams which appear like dreams within dreams. Dreams within dreams are not possible (as far as I know) but when you create the illusion of a dream within a dream it can feel that way. Two ways of creating the illusion Falling asleep. So you visualize how you fall asleep on a bed, and have a dream. Then you can fall asleep in that dream and wake up in another dream You visualize going through some kind of portal. I prefer a picture, laptop or tv screen. Because that creates the illusion of being in a world within a world. So I would visualize how I stand in front of a tv and see a scene where another me is doing something. Then I would visualize being drawn into the screen into the second body. How to make the illusion more convincing: Stay completely focused in your visualizations. Therefore anesthesia and amnesia are nice. Going back: Let's say you are 3 layers deep and want to go back. Then you DON'T just open your physical eyes. In order to do that you first have to go back layer for layer. I would do it this way: Dreams within dreams: Fall asleep in dream 1 in a lets say blue bed. wake up in dream 2 in a blue bed. Then fall asleep in a green bed and wake up in dream 3 in a green bed. Then to get out, you fall asleep in dream 3 in a green bed, wake up in dream 2 in a green bed, fall asleep in a blue bed and wake up un dream 1 in a blue bed then fall again asleep in another bed and wake up (or pretending to wake up if you weren't actually asleep) in your real bed. TVs within TVs: in layer 1 you have a red wristband. In layer 2 your layer 2 body has a orange wristband. In order to get back you must take off the wristband, then immediately notice how you are sucked out of your body, now see the scene from a 3rd person point of view, then see the scene + the body you just left in the tv screen while now being in layer 2 in your layer 2 body with the red wristband. Forget the previous layer. If you forget your previous layers and are fully focused in the visualizations then you forget your physical body and that you are visualizing, which will make it easier for the visualizations to turn into real OBEs. You could for example anchor amnesia with a gray fog. Then when you wake up in a dream within a dream, you visually how the bed dissolves behind a grey fog. False memories: To make that even more powerful, you can create false memories (like what people sometimes have in lucid dreams). So after having forgotten the bed and that you woke up, you implant yourself a false memory how you for example walked to that place. Hallucinations: The more vivid the visualizations the better. When visualizations are as vivid as real life then they can be called hallucinations. It is possible to induce hallucinations through hypnosis but it is extremely difficult and I could hardly find anything online about it. But for example Zach Pincince has his hypnotees believe that he is their favourite celebrity. So do they hallucinate the celebrity? It's probably that they still see Zach but believe that he is the celebtrity. So what he is doing isn't actual hallucination but rather a mind trick. But if he can convince them to believe that he is their favorite celebrity then it should also be possible to trick our minds to believe that our visualizations are (as vivid as) real life. But it will be difficult. All of that is not necessary if you are good at getting into the Esdaile State or inducing whole-body anesthesia. But if you are interested in turing visualizations into full OBEs then it might be helpful.

Thanks to @Spiral Wizard I also made some new very important discoveries. If you want to deliberately induce an OBE you have to stay still till your body enters sleep paralysis and often the vibrational stage as well. 99% of people do this by lying down, perhaps doing a meditative technique, and waiting till SP and the vibrations start, which can easily take more than an hour if you are a beginner and that is given you manage to do everything right. Even if you are advanced, this techniques still takes usually 10-30 minutes and the success rate is below 70% for most. Therefore I was so thrilled about John Kreiter's technique. Once you have decent visualization skills and somewhat mastered the technique you should be able to induce OBEs more quickly and far more reliably. But it takes far longer to master. And it doesn't directly adress most of the problems. John Kreiter's technique still has value, but I believe there is a more powerful way: deep hypnosis. One way is to go into the Esdaile State, which isn't as hard as it seems. Once you have anchored it, you can enter the Esdaile State in less than 10 seconds. And from there it's relatively easy to induce OBEs. I will soon write in more detail about it.

That will strongly depend on what spirits he asks. There are hardly any neutral spirits, and they do a good job conceiling that.

@Bryanbrax Nice posts When I do these visualizations, and focus on dual awareness, I can easily do simple things like scratching my physical body while keeping focused on the visualizations, but stuff like texting is too difficult for me. Are you able to do it? And do you aim to enter sleep paralysis to turn the visualizations into full OBEs or do you prefer the dual awareness of the visualizations?

It depends on how you define "spirits". Let's call them inorganic life forms. Some are the result of an individual or the collective. These are thought forms. But there also exist many spirits that exist independently from humanity. Like a different species. Yes to all questions.

John Kreiter has written a new book! "The Way of the Projectionist: Alchemy’s Secret Formula to Altered States and Breaking the Prison of the Flesh" It's the continuation of "The Magnum Opus" Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B088SMFNRY/ref=tmm_pap_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1590223985&sr=8-4 It seems like the e-book version is currently not available on amazon.com, but you can get it on amazon.de

I agree with what you wrote. I was already suspicous about some things Brian is doing, like why does he need 100 000 pounds to live stream David Icke when he can use bitchute for free? Or why do you have to give your email in order to see the David Icke Interview? When this clearly means that many people won't see it only because of the email requirement. But I never expected what is exposed in the video. Thanks for posting! I see these possibilities: A: Brian is not scamming people. He is doing these things for good reasons. Like what he says in this video (starts at 2:15): Hopefully he uses the money for purposes like paying lawyers to make youtube stop censor videos (which he says he plans to do). The issue might resolve ifself once Brian answers to the criticism. B: Brian and David Icke are both crazy and in for the money. C: David isn't in on it. Brian is controlled opposition. When he is exposed, David can easiliy be blamed as well and discredited.

I'm surprised to see how even open-minded people immediately reject the idea that aliens might be on earth. - Probabilities What is the probability that there are aliens out there? What is the probability that some of them are more advanced than us and are advanced enough to visit us? Is there a chance that they would visit as in a way that we don't notice them? - Evidence Probably millions of UFO sightings. OBE reports talking about aliens NDE reports talking about aliens Remote Viewing reports talking about aliens Some Psychedelics reports talking about aliens Many thousand alien abduction reports Some psychic people seeing aliens chanelled material confirming about aliens. Countless ancient scriptures hint at aliens The majority is probably fake or by deluded people, but all of it? Interesting is that a lot of what people report corresponds to what others report. For example: The Reptilians and the Grays are probably the most commonly reported aliens. They are described in a similar way from most of the above-mentioned sources/reports. I let you decide to evaluate the probability that aliens might actually be here on earth.

I wasn't sure whether OBEs are competitive with psychedelics, but now I'm very confident that everything you can reach with psychedelics, you can reach with OBEs as well. Psychedelics are still superior because you can just take them, but if you want an alternative to psychedelics, then OBEs are probably your best bet. It will take a lot of practice but eventually it won't make a difference whether you plug 5meo or have an OBE and induce an awakening from that state. At least according to my current understanding.

@Zenrool Building up dream recall alone can already get you lucid, because the better your dream reacll the more conscious you are during your dreams and thus have a greater chance of getting lucid . But I recommend you add more techniques such as reality checks. If you have alarms during the night then you could also try your luck with DEILDs and definitely go back to sleep with the intention to get lucid. OBEs definitely can be as vivid as normal life. As a beginner, they will probably be less vivid, but when you are advanced, you can have OBEs which are even more vivid than normal life.

Which book? This one? https://www.amazon.com/Magical-Art-Mental-Projection-ebook/dp/B08431LWH2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=mental+projection&qid=1587313582&sr=8-1 or this one? https://www.amazon.de/Travel-Dimensions-Mental-Projection-English-ebook/dp/B006VOKGLC/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=mental+projection&qid=1587313749&sr=8-3 or another one? Thanks! the link is working now.

Here a blog post by Leo: https://actualized.org/insights/new-york-post-ufo-series

He doesn't deny the holocaust. Please don't spread misinformation. Mainstream is inventing all sorts of things about him in a desperate attempt to keep people away from him.