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How to achieve that though. I guess body sensations only completely dissolve once you are solidly asleep. Though I read that some people remain slightly conscious of their body even then. During the beginning of sleep, body sensations are definitely still present for me, though they are a bit distant and feel very weird. @Shweta Singh You have been experiencing conscious sleep? That is awesome How did you learn it?

@Waken I call any non-physical life form a spirit. Don't know how else to call them. How do you call them? @peanutspathtotruth @Spiral Wizard That is awesome!! @peanutspathtotruth joining some shaktipat transmissions within the next weeks will make it more likely that intense stuff happens at the intensive. @Spiral Wizard That's the right attitude!!! @EddieEddie1995

Sure. That's why 99% of people contact spirits. So that they manifest their desires for them. Hardly anyone contacts them for spiritual growth... Haha, anything is possible. (it might just be extremely unlikely) But manifesting your desires is way more complicated than merely aligning your vibration or stuff like that lol. The most effective way is to ask angels.

@Raptorsin7 I will soon make a post on how to contact spirits. I hope you're gonna try contacting Gabriel again

If you want to know, you gotta try them If you want more intellectual knwoledge, check out the links and maybe try to look the transmissions up on the internet. There should definitely be information about the supramental force, KAP, RASA and shaktipat. I'm not an expert. The youtube transmissions are for free. The live transmissions on zoom are paid servives. But most are quite cheap and some are on donation basis.

That's a valid point. For me personally, I've experimented with 20+ different spiritual techniques, and spend around 5 000 hours in total. I've experimented a lot with transmissions and for me, they are clearly the most powerful tool for increasing baseline consciousness (as well as invoking spirits, I didn't mention it at first because it is a lot more difficult). And from reading and hearing many reports of other people, I suppose transmissions are powerful for others too. There is however the issue that many don't feel anything at first and get no results. It's maybe because for these people transmissions simply don't work. I think this is the case for a very small minority. For most they would work if they put in the time and effort. They probably spent 100s or 1000s of hours meditating, but lose patience if 1h transmission doesn't work. It takes time till they work powerfully. And then 1h transmission can easily be more powerful than 10h of normal meditation. only very few people are able to give transmissions. in the past you had to find a guru in person to get a transmissiom. This changes now with the internet Many transmissions have beeen around for very little time, like pure Divinity, SAT, KAP.... most people give up if the first hour doesn't work Also the potency of youtube transmissions can't be compared to live transmissions. I bet you, in 5 years transmissions are extremely popular. Thanks! I will look into it.

Psychedelics are not necessary for a "inner spiritual life". But psychedelics are by far most powerful for peak awakenings. But you seem to be more interested in baseline. "authentic true life". Psychedelics affect baseline, but I find transmissions more powerful for baseline increase. For example RASA, SAT, Shaktipat, pure Divinity, KAP,... The next best straightforward practices for baseline are maybe kriya yoga and self inquiry.

Something I wanted to mention in previous posts. If you want to practice sleep yoga with as little negative effects on your health as possible, you could do it something like that: If you normally go to bed at 10 pm, wait till you are very tired, that might be between 11pm and 3 am, depending on you. And do sleep yoga practice then. If you have to get up soon in the morning you will have a lack of sleep. So this would be good to practice on the weekend. Or you could accept the lack of sleep, it will mean that you will get into "very tired" a lot earlier this day. Which means you will fall asleep a lot earlier, and possibly get your normal amount of sleep that night. Or set an alarm for the middle of the night and practice then, without turning on the light. Ways to increase tiredness: No blue light in the hours before practice reverse blinking low brainwave binaural beats melatonin supplement practice while lying down ...

Upgraded Technique Upgrade of this technique (but some elements can also be used in other techniques). I wrote that the most important thing is basically willpower and determination, and that other stuff like your brainwave skills are comparably insignificant. My new take: For success, you need both willpower and brainwave skills. If one of them is weak, the other needs to be extra good. So success is possible with weak brainwave skills but it requires insane willpower. More practical is if you improve your brainwave skills. Sleep yoga is basically a brainwave skill anyway. If you are conscious during all of your sleep, you are conscious with low brainwaves = good brainwave skills. Every sleep yoga attempt improves your brainwave skills. The more time you spend being as close as possible to your current threshold point (point where you lose consciousness) the more you train your brainwave muscles. My current routine looks somewhat like that: - A: Sleep Yoga (when extremely tired) Motivation music right before practice. sitting up Delta binaural beats (2 Hz) SAT video transmission by Gareth (explained later) (for example this) alarms every minute (snooze 1 minute) upon snoozing: rate closeness to losing consciousness (more important than tiredness level) am I still fully conscious, focused, committed? will I make it till the next snooze??? (and will I commitedly ask these questions again?) either FILD + FILD counting. Depending on how close to losing consciousness, doing the FILD with both hands, or doing very large FILD movements, or lifting one or both arms up, supported by ellbow on a surface, or without support. Or: PERFECT concentration. I'm currently experimenting with starting the practice with big FILD movements to remain conscious, and once I am reaaaaaly tired I swith either to very sublte FILD movements or only pure perfect concentration. Because I find that pure concentration without subtle FILD is stronger. But it's not possible to keep that up for long, therfore I only do it when I'm right at the threshold. Trance Triggers - B: Normal Meditation To ensure that I don't accidentally fall asleep: Either alarm clocks (snooze ranging from every 1-5 minutes, depending on closeness to losing consciousness) (+ plus rating closeness to losing consciousness when snoozing the alarm) or keeping my eyes slightly open. Either way, it sucks LMAO. binaural beats over 20 Hz (I curenntly listen to ones going from 35-45) -C: Brainwave Training (when not yet "extremely tired") Some time ago I did low brainwave meditations ( when not tired enough for sleep yoga practice). By doing this practice, you can improve your brainwave skills even if you are not extremely tired. maybe start with Reverse Blinking alarm clocks or eyes slightly open Binaural beats below 8 Hz maybe FILD SAT video transmission by Gareth Hypnosis Trance Triggers trying to deepen trance Describing some points in more detail: - SAT Transmission In terms of Transmissions, this forum is mostly familiar with RASA. RASA has little effect on your state of consciousness during the transmission (RASA's effect is for longterm baseline increase), but SAT can have strong effects during the transmission (apart from longterm baseline) (if you are sensitive). The SAT transmission aims for Brahman Consciousness, which I suppose is Godhead without body awareness. This is similar to being conscious during sleep. Therefore SAT transmissions can be helpful for sleep yoga, therefore I recommend letting a SAT transmission video play during your sleep yoga practice (it works with eyes closed). For a pure SAT transmission, go for a SAT video on Gareth's youtube channel that is at least 1 month old (from today). The transmissions from that point on later are a combination of SAT and pure Divinty. This combination is stronger for enlightenment, but for sleep yoga pure SAT might be more effective, idk, experiment. The stronger you are connected to the SAT force/energy, the stronger the transmissions, therefore I recommend that you join at least once one of his Zoom Transmissions (zoom transmissions are currently either a combination of SAT and pure Divinity or Shaktipat and pure Divinity) or one on one transmission, or at least a live youtube transmission (every Monday). But the more you join, the stronger your connection. If your connection is strong, the SAT force starts coming down during the day and during your meditations automatically, as is the case with many people (including me) who have often joined the zoom transmissions. I will write more about SAT and other transmissions in the future. - keeping eyes slightly open When I do normal meditation I want to close my eyes, because it makes the meditation deeper. But I noticed that by keeping my eyes 5-10% open, I still get most of the benefits of closing the eyes. When it comes to accidentally falling asleep having your eyes 5-10% open is FAR safer than having them closed. It is surprisingly effective. If I do it, I usually don't accidentally fall asleep. And if I reach the point where it gets difficult to keep them open, I switch to my real sleep yoga practice. - Purpose of alarms For me, the main purpose of the alarms (which are usually every minute) is not to wake me up in case I lose consciousness. But rather to remind me to stay focused.

Update I can't believe I still haven't mastered sleep yoga. Never experienced so much frustration lol. Since my last posting about sleep yoga, there have been a few periods of intense practice, one of them started 1-2 weeks ago. During these periods, I manage to enter similar states of consciousness as mentioned in a previous sleep yoga post, I suppose a shallow form of light sleep. But it only works if I manage to make no mistakes, which is very difficult. One tiny mistake and I lose consciousness, and ruin the practice because the alarm doesn't wake me up soon enough most of the time, so I usually need to wait many hours for the next opportunity. This is the biggest issue, that I have no reliable way of waking myself up after losing consciousness. I think the perfect thing would be (if the alarm doesn't manage to soon wake you up, as is usually the case for me) to have someone nearby who wakes you up if you don't hear the alarm. Upgraded technique in next post.

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Interesting! I will!

This is the dilemma with teaching advanced insights. On the one hand, they can make it a lot more likely that the seeker will get that awakening too, in that way they are very useful for seekers. But the problem is, almost every enlightenment insight/awakening is depressive for the ego. It's not the insight itself but the ego's misinterpretation and self bias. If someone has an awakening which is accompanied with ego death, and thus sees the awakening without biased lenses, it will be blissful and perfect. But if someone thinks about that same insight without having gone through the surrender and ego death ,which would be necessary to have that actual insight/awakening yourself, this insight is bound to be misinterpreted and depressive for the ego. Look at it this way: If any enlightenment insight makes you depressed, then that is a sign that you understand something wrongly. The depression is not because Reality is inherently depressive, but because you don't understand Reality yet, and believe it to be different than it is. If you were to have a complete awakening and reallly understood the full picture, you would be in bliss and not depression. Reality is Infinite Love. If an enlightenment insight makes you depressed, dismiss the insight and remind yourself of Ininite Love.

@Mu_ Yes, from that response, and from the few videos I've seen from him, he indeed doesn't seem to say the same as the guy in that video. I mentioned Frank's name in that post because at one point I think he said that Consciousness is impermanent. I really like Frank and consider him very awake. But I think there are deeper levels to some of the things he said. For example his mention of the natural state. That just seems like a thing of the ego. @RedLine Accepting the present moment and trying to escape from it, are both part of the same game.

I also wouldn't necessarily call it an idea. It's more like recognition. No thoughts or concepts required. Can you explain why?

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You are right. When I wrote that, it was purely a belief. I just cranked up consciousness, and now it isn't belief any more. We are always playing games, no matter what we do. It is pure understanding.

@Preety_India Yes there certainly are. @BipolarGrowth You practice some kind of devotion to the Holy Spirit, right? My favourite religion is Hare Krishna and Hinduism, second is Christianity. These are the religions of the heart. Your posts on the paranormal were interesting to read. I basically never looked into christian mysticism, but maybe I should rethink that.

It helps a lot if you understand all that stuff already conceptually. But you will still be severely shocked and mindfucked, because nothing can really prepare you. I guess the best you can do to keep the crazies low is to take it slow. The faster you wake up, the more shocking.

@Enlightenment Your belief of "whole universe" disappeared, along with everything else you imagined . And only God/Consciousness remained, Aware of Itself. And from the absolute perspective, all of that is right now imagined to have happened. @tatsumaru Nice!

I'm sure many do it in a cultish and illusionary way. But not all. The danger of getting deluded is of course far greater with something like Hare Krishna compared to something like Zen Buddhism. But compared to most traditional Hinduism or Christianity, Hare Krishna is quite advanced and effective. Deep surrender and devotion, to the point where you are effectively deep in illusion (from a non-dual perspective) can result in incredible non-dual growth (if done in the right way. Which is tricky to get right). This is generally very underestimated on this forum.

Definitely. Though their current understanding of that goal is more dualistic and less advanced than that of actualized.org followers. I love Hare Krishna!

@Enlightenment The way I see it, this car experience means that: either there was no consciousness. And these 2 seconds never happened. Like time travelling 2 seconds into the future. And you have no memory or idea of what might have happened during these 2 seconds or, you do remember something of these 2 seconds. And in that case, a very small amount of ego consciousness was still present. Enough to register stuff happening, but not enough to register it as a conscious experience. (or the 3rd point of my previous post. unconsciousness from the ego's pov. But Consciousness from Consciousness'/God's pov) (from the relative perspective. From the absolute, past is imagination anyway). What you, Frank, and the guy in the video are basically saying is that Ultimate Nothingness is not identical to God, Consciousness and Being. That this Ultimate Nothingness is prior to God=Consciousness=Being. That these are impermanent phenomena arising out of the permanent ground which is Ultimate Nothingness. This contradicts my awakenings. It probably contradicts the awakenings of most people on here, I guess.

Nice ? Good 3-step guide btw.