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Be a killer in what you do.

I don't know if I agree. There are a lot of women who make dating choices based on feelings alone. Males on the other hand are more autistic. They look at the physical (sexual) value. With age, males can get past that but rarely does he become like a woman who operates fully on emotions when picking a mate. A female would marry an ugly or fat guy if his status is high or if he has money and funny. But a good looking male wouldn't marry a fat woman just for status, funniness and money. It is very unlikely.

@Ghartok Padhome honesty with pickup is only valuable if you live in a small place. If you live in an urban area, no way women know you care about the female agenda or are just out there to get yours. Most females care about their own agenda. The thought of dating a low value man and caring for his agenda (as a good gesture) would instantly dry her pussy up. But they expect men to care about their agenda though.

It is how the female brain is wired and conditioned. I'm not blaming them. They are physically weak so if the truth will squash them they will joyfully shit on the truth. Look at the weird gender neutrality manipulation that is going on. It is all females who are trying to reprogram gender so they can be feminine and be masculine at the same time. It simply doesn't work.

@Hello from Russia your gf didn't like your honesty per se. She liked your nonchalance about the fact that you are a high value man and that you have options other than her. Try to be honest about something that lowers your value in her eyes and come back to the forum to report.

A machine is totally honest. A human is not. We don't want to hurt other people's feelings and we tell white lies. We tell ourselves lies too. If you tell your boss the truth about him if you don't like him or the truth about your colleagues you won't last very long. Especially girls don't like the truth. I found this out the hard way. Males are more autistic/truthful. It kind of makes sense. Just look at all the sneaky/bitchy shit women do to each other. Males don't do this to each other. And if we want to be with females we have to play their games.

Ok, I can take honesty out of my LP values list.

So when should one use dishonesty as an enlightened person and when not?

Agreed.

Ben Shapiro still could get pussy left and right. I liked what Leo said here: A guy who is good with women has to have the CAPACITY to be both a full on asshole in a masculine way. It doesn't mean that guy has to BE it. Women can feel if a man has the capacity to be a dick, to be dangerous, to be masculine. If a guy is paralyzed and can't demonstrate that he has to be the capacity to be a dick, her pussy will dry quicker than a than a desert.

I didn't know Pagan was doing coaching.

I wouldn't call that a meta skill. Meta skills are very specific and watered down skills. For communication you need multiple skills to be able to do it effectively. Also communication can't be used with every aspect of life.

I used the search function but I couldn't find a thread that lists all the meta-skills Structure versus content Separateness versus sameness Explicit versus implicit Open-mindedness versus close-mindedness

I have categorized Actualized meta skills like this: Skills of the higher observer: Structure versus content Separateness versus sameness Explicit versus implicit Needy vs Non-Needy Perception Skills of the intuition and EQ Introspection Letting go Open-mindedness versus close-mindedness Meditation (with various sub-skills) Skills of the intellect: Question' ability - asking quality questions Self deception - attunement to your own and other self-deception This is not the full list, but the list we got until now. More can be added if you have suggestions. Meta skill = skill that can be applied in all areas of life

How Lives Imitates Chess is a book that is an eye opener. If I was less conscious I would just be an asshole and not give two fucks. The average person doesn't have the resources and time to be nuanced and if women rather have an asshole than a kind person, so be it. They ask we deliver. From a female perspective that is true.

@Etherial Cat That metaphor wasn't really nice so I apologize. I was using the pickup-frame which is low consciousness. Currently not looking for a long term relationship. I'm not at that stage. On the long term I definitely need to change my mindset though. I agree on that.

Is bringing awareness to their mechanism judging? There is definitely a part of me that judges and I'm trying to let that go. There was definitely a part of me that just didn't get women, but now I do and I'm not trying to "fix" them. I'm rather fixing myself.

@preemo I guess people who are not musicians can still learn from this book?

If you look at the model of David Hawkins is this a good figure of speech? I discovered that understanding sticks more with me when I use figure of speech. These abstract shit don't stick with me. I'm easily getting lost in the content.

The frustrating part is that most women are not even aware or honest that they want an asshole. There was a period in my life that I just expected women to be upfront about their intentions and values. At the moment I don't even try to enlighten them. They are what they are. See a donkey for a donkey and life will be easier if you want to ride the donkey.

Who dat?

@Jacob Morres meta skill is a skill you can use in multiple areas in life. https://www.fearlessculture.design/blog-posts/the-metaskills-you-need-to-thrive-in-the-21st-century#:~:text=A meta-skill is a,%3B meta-skills are permanent.

What I noticed. All these meta skills are skills of the higher observer but it also uses the intellectual and emotional modes. The higher observer is a constant though. I see the emotional and intellectual mode as a muscle. The eye, the higher observer can only do his job if you the capacity to control/release the emotional and intellectual modes. What I noticed. All these meta skills are skills of the higher observer but it also uses the intellectual and emotional modes. The higher observer is a constant though. I see the emotional and intellectual mode as a muscle. The eye, the higher observer can only do his job if you the capacity to control/release the emotional and intellectual modes.

True. Leo calls it introspection and he has a video about it.