WHO IS

So in other words, One would just totally lose the any connection to this "earth" reality with its particular idea of what is "sane". Not a big deal, if you don't mind being somewhere else, other then earth reality.

But if Consciousness is eternal, and one deconstructs all of ones memory dies, then what remains? Why would God go insane if there would be no reality? What is alternative to "reality"? God being alone with himself, just BEING?

First of all, Thank You very much Dumuzzi for sharing these important messages to us. I'm certain of Elohim existence. And I have to ask a question to clarify something that I read in the messages that you posted here. Elohim project our physics world and our physical bodies with their minds. And say that our sprit is eternal. Then at the same time they say that be wary of the deceiver that can make you perish. If we can perish then it contradicts their message that we are eternal. Also, if our physical world is a projection of Elohims mind(s). Then it means that everything that is happening on earth it is under 100% control of Elohim. Yet, Elohim say that there is an invader virus (Dragon) inside the physical realm. Which as I understand they call it "invader" because it is a force/being outside of Elohim, no? So they don't take responsibility for the actions of this (Dragon), because it is not one of them? Then I would ask two questions: 1.) Why can't Elohim get rid of this dragon/virus? 2.) Does that mean that there are other collectives/beings other than The Elohim Collective? So these other collectives have their own Father, while our father is Elohim? Would that also mean that there are collectives who created Elohim and thus they are their fathers? How higher up does this "tree" go up?

Non-duality teachers, who say statements like "there is no Self/I". "I don't have any expectations and judgments" However, when one carefully analyzes them and what they are saying, you see the elephant in the room, and that is "choice". Even though they are denying their own I/Being`s existence, they make choices, they choose a certain way to dress, they choose to speak a certain way. They still want to look a certain way "A proper haircut, a stubble/beard, accessories, etc". Which usually involves a choice made by someone, which shows that there IS someone. If what they are saying they truly believed in, they would care about nothing, there would be no-one to care to do any caring, if as they say their "I/Being" don't exist they hold to be as truth. But they themselves and the choices they make, show that they do care, and they do actually exist, making conscious choices. "Choice" indeed seems to be the most important puzzle-piece in all of reality. "Seems", I wrote, because, my understanding is still in progress.

required, means as if there are stone written "laws". Its a dream, meditation, human body, yoga etc, all of these is "story" that is being made up by God on the fly. This means, God can easily make up on the fly that all of these things are not necessary, to be fully lucid in the dream. There are no set-to-stone rulers/laws, its all imaginary process. Beliveing those things to be required before being able to achieve something, is buying into the story, which solidifies the dream, makes it less flexible to "bending".

He put his hands into a shredder which as turned on, so when you could guess what happens when you put your hands into a shredder? Yeah, they got shredded and he lost his hands. He did it while he was high on salvia, so while he was high he had a direct experience that putting his hands into the shredder, which on salvia looked like a immortality river, that by putting his hands into the "immortality river" he would become immortal. But when his "high" wore off, he came back to see that he has no more hands. So basically what I'm trying to say is that reality doesn't care what one experience in ones own POV.

But God destroys/kills his own creation, no?

But if there is no better or worse and all judgment/differentiation is illusion, then how could one "want the BEST for it"?

Then what drives them to do anything after the point of being aware of such a realization? If there is no one behind the steering wheel, what drives the car?

If they became aware of something, and then preach it to others as ultimately true, how right is it? Because we know, that people can have direct-experience which are not ultimately true. A guy on salvia, putting his hands into a shredder, because while he was on salvia for his POV the shredder was a river of immortality and putting his hands into would make him immortal (true story btw), did he have a direct awareness of this "truth" from his POV while he was high on Salvia? yes from his POV at that moment it was very true. However, that led him to lose both of hands. Reality did not care whatever he imagined/was aware of while he was on high on salvia. Thus from this example alone, we can deduct that individual POV experiences/awareness can be misleading.

When one becomes lucid in a dream, One can change the dream through one's own will. This should be possible if reality is God dreaming it. Jesus walking on water should be just scratching the surface so to speak.

Who are "they", if there is no-one? They are aware that they exist but they deny that.

Exactly, if they belived in what they are saying/telling others, they wouldn't care if they would get killed or not, because if as they say there is no "I", then there would be no "I/me" to care about the death of "I/me". But they still care, which shows that they themselves don't buy their own teachings to the full extent. Which is a big thought provoker.

If what they say is true, there should be "no-one" there to "go on a lower level to make these choices, they are aware of them basically."

If self-consciousness dies at the moment of physical death, then what's the point persuing enlightenment? To get the same answer that any other atheist already convinced of?

So we are comparing labels/names? Or different states of Being?

Thank you very much Meta-Man and Arlin for both of your perspectives and points of view. Hopefully, Truth will be clear for everybody.

Chosen a play where God is suffering? Is God a masochist?

Though, because we are conscious Beings ourselves, we can have our own will. If ones every action is to reflect what God would want, then it means Youll giving up your own will. Which means you are relinquishing your own Being. What would God want to see, other who copy him all the time, or others who have their own independent will and being?

Yes at this point it is just imagery distinction. But, still we experiencing THIS reality right Now. You can't think/imagine away that you are experiencing reality though the body of a human for example and that you need to feed it and give water to it or otherwise it would malfunction.

I did not assume that consciousness is a product of the brain, how could it be when the brain is imagined by consciousness? What I am staying is Consiousjessn imagines to be attached to the human body and thus limits itself to experiencing reality though the eyes/filters of a human. However, couldn't consciousness "imagine" to experience reality without being attached to a human? Better questions should be, can consiosunes anything? Then why cant we imagine to not being a human?

Yes, agree. However, if imagination is all there is and imagination IS reality, Then whatever is imagined is ver-very real, because there is no, not imagined things to begin with. If imagination=reality, then it is as real as it gets.

Friend, we can, of course, get to experience that we are God and believe to be so afterwards. But it still doesn't change that our consciousness resides and is attached to the homo-sapien bodies. And it is these homo-sapien bodies through which we experience the world around.

That is why everybody is who is Being is precious and worth of Love.

You know what interesting, people can go around thinking and speaking, but they are ignoring the fact that is right in front of their eyes and that is that they exist. It seems that people who cannot handle the reality of life and its pain, want to cope with trying to make themselves to believe that they themselves don't exist. They are relinquishing their own being, which is the biggest disfavor to themselves because their own Being is the most valuable thing. If they didn't exist they wouldn't even be here to discuss these things, to begin with.