Apparition of Jack

Think about it. What are the actual downsides? As it stands, the US is run by a fascist, white nationalist dictator prepared to kill his is citizens to hold onto power. Already damning enough. But then even the so-called “opposition” are little more than symbolic opposition at this point who, when push comes to shove, will still support full funding of the fascist takeover of civil society. So if the governing party is a threat to humanity, and the opposition will support them when it comes down to it, then what right, as a nation, does the US have to exist on the world stage? Its government sees its citizens as little more than cattle. Its corporations effectively run the place at the direct expense of the lives of its populace. “America” as we know it is an irredeemably corrupt oligarchy that only exists to enrich its fascistic elite. So why don’t we just abolish it? Put it under the United Nations. Guarantee healthcare, housing, and a liveable wage to all of its citizens. Expand democracy and make local, state and national governance more transparent and engaged. Destroy the power of the Epstein class and nationalise corrupt businesses for the good of humanity. Ensure every person in its borders - black, white, gay, straight, migrant, local - have the full protection of the law and are free to express their lives and desires as they see fit. Other than nationalist posturing, whats the downsides? Someone tell me.

Saturday’s killing of Alex Pretti was so brazen, so unconstitutional, so beyond the pale that many in the MAGA cult are finally starting to wake up. I hate that it took a brave, kind man’s life to come to this, but people are finally starting to see Trump’s evil for what it is.

There was a time when the vast majority of the world accepted slavery was a fact of life, sometimes even “necessary”, but advances in technology, social thought, trade, living standards etc made it impossible to sustain. Nowadays, slavery is one of the most abhorred institutions on the planet, regulated to obscure black markets and completely eliminated in developed countries. The world changes. Times evolve. Don’t get me wrong, I love my own country, I love its unique culture and way of life and everything, but there’s nothing about increasing global integration that threatens that (no more than when the US united after revolution Carolina uniting with Pennsylvania threatened those two state’s unique characteristics.) And again, the billionaire class already lives in a de-facto international world, it’s just unlike everyone else they see it as a tool to be exploited and harvested for their own perverse needs, not a living place to be nurtured and curated. This is a frightening prospect, unity, I understand that, but at some point it’ll become inevitable. Things are just way, WAY too interconnected for it to be otherwise.

The internet itself is the genesis of global civilisation.

And you are failing to see the bigger picture. Nation-states as an idea are dead. Europe will be federalised within a few decades, if not sooner. Africa will likely start forming regional blocks. As it stands, nation-states only exist to protect the interests of tyrannical corporate interests, which as we can all see are rapidly resorting to killing to protect themselves. I’m not the crazy one for pointing out that is unsustainable for human survival and flourishing. EDIT: Again, the Internet created all this. I, someone 10,000KM away from the US, have as much knowledge and insight to America’s political chaos (often more) than countless Americans themselves. I would encourage anyone who’s interested in Australian politics (or German, or Japanese, or Indian) to do the same. We’re not strangers anymore. Physical borders only determine what the weather is like in your location. The internet is omnipresent; something no Roman, or Brit, or Mongol ever had to contend with. It’s the silver bullet for particularism and nativism.

So long as I’m rambling: the mistake that MAGA and all different stripes of American nativists make is assuming they’re seperate or above the global community. They’re not. Like I said, the internet has all but ensured global governance and connectivity is an inevitability. Whether people like or not humanity is going to look a lot more like a single civilisation in a few decades (rather than dozens of competing, self-interested civilisations.) In many ways MAGA is the last desperate attempt for the US to assert its individuality and supremacy on the world stage, but you can’t fight gravity. We all exist on the same planet. We all share the same ideas. We all know thousands of people around the world. We’re not separated anymore. We are, increasingly, one entity. “Humanity” as a collective is no longer the domain of theologians or wide-eyed idealists, but an actual, growing lived reality for billions of people around the globe. Particularism will not survive the future.

I’m not even sure we disagree here then lol. Im getting ahead of myself.

There is, functionally, no difference between your average person from New York, London, Rome, Tokyo or Melbourne at this point (no, superficial cultural markers like NY pizza don’t count.) We do, legitimately, live in an actual global civilisation. The internet created that. It exists. The only question is whether we’re going to be honest about this or whether we’re going to keep pretending we’re cavemen out for blood. We’re not. It’s time for us to unite.

Says who? We’re entering an unprecedented age of global interconnectedness. The difference between New York and Warsaw is only a fraction of what it was even just a century ago. Who’s to say we can’t genuinely start uniting as a species? Make no mistake, I still understand nations like China, Russia etc will resist this for their own reasons, but let’s be real, WW3 is never going to happen. Nukes alone make war between major nations a thing of the past. Are we going to keep playing this dogshit game of geopolitical cynicism (for the betterment of the Epstein class, I might add), or are we going to unite?

Was it “undemocratic” to put the Nazi high leadership on trial, despite them being democratically elected? Even though doing so set the precedent for the next 75 years of global democratic security and prosperity? There are certain norms that the world adheres to for the betterment of everyone, and when a state actor breaks those norms, it’s only prudent the world steps in to once again enforce them.

The only other option to this is for American kleptocrats, businesses, military leaders, corporate politicians to voluntarily cede power. If Trump, Miller, Elon etc all voluntarily stepped down and handed power over to the American public, all of this insanity would end overnight, and reason would be restored. But I’m not holding my breath.

Frankly, I believe the last election was tampered with. We also know for a fact that the 2016 election was tampered with (Russiagate actually happened.) There is, again, HIGHLY illegal activity keeping Trump and his fascist goons in power. This is nothing to say of the, AGAIN, highly illegal corruption US corporations engage in on a daily basis to suck the life of out civic society and impoverish its own people. America is, again, a corporate mafia state protecting its own cynical interests. Hitler was also democratically elected, but that didn’t stop the world coming together to put an end to his madness. Targeted humanitarian intervention can and has been used as a tool to restore democracy and enforce the rule of law, especially when dictators start killing their own people.

If it was hypothetically possible, would you support it? Or at the very least, expanding international norms and policies within the US itself? America is, again, a rogue state. It has completely abandoned any sense of responsibility, restraint or decency on the world stage, both externally and internally. If the US can be seen as an organization, it’s an organization that exists solely to enrich the oligarch class at the expense of both its internal citizens and external nations. It has, in effect, become an armed mafia with the most powerful economy in the world to back it up. Something needs to change.

Ok. So maybe I was a bit hyperbolic when I said to “abolish the US.” But I still absolutely think some sort of meaningful, international oversight of US politics is desperately needed at this point. If the US was a minor nation, everything that it’s doing to its population would've been cause for intervention a hundred times over. Its abuse of human rights has gone from questionable to utterly beyond tolerance. If the Americans can’t sort their own shit out, everyone else should step in.

It’s the complete opposite of dissolving. It would be putting the US under a capable, democratic administration that has both the interest and ability to resist oligarchal and fascist overreach and instead uphold the rule of law, human rights, democratic participation and material well-being. They did it Cambodia. They did it in East Timor. They did it in Kosovo. It could be done in the US, who is currently a rogue, fascistic oligarchal state at war with its own citizens. If that’s not cause for international intervention, what is?

A Somali immigrant being targeted by ICE and their white school teacher neighbour are both part of the working class, right? Wouldn’t it make sense for leftists to support something that protects the rights of all ethnicities?

Something else to consider: possible unification with Canada (and, if their internal situation stabilises, Mexico.) Again, this would be resisted by nationalists in all those countries, but so long as a minimum level of security, prosperity and democracy can be achieved, isn’t this the way the world is already kinda heading in the first place? The internet alone has made current borders less necessary than ever.

I had AI make a mock-up of a hypothetical flag for this administration a while back. Again, I get how out-there this idea is, but given how awful the global and internal situation is, is it really that crazy? At the very least, Americans (and everyone else) REALLY need to rethink global politics, democracy, cooperation, economics, sustainability etc in the face of relentless oligarchal aggression.

Isn’t Marxism also an internationalist movement? Wouldn’t wanting to integrate the global community be something leftists can get behind?

To add to the above post, keep in mind r basically already “runs” the UN, so this wouldn’t be a case of, I don’t know, Russian or Chinese oligarchs coming in and taking over the country for themselves. It would be a strictly democratic, humanitarian mission overwhelming staffed by local Americans, but perhaps with some input from certain European, African, South American etc leaders. Also, I would argue that in many senses, America is ALREADY and international society. Its banks can create or destroy smaller nations as they wish. American politics is already highly influential across the entire globe, so much so that even American political commentators are more known in foreign countries than their own local politicians. Not to mention the American military, which has up until this day effective held other nations (some of them major nations in their own right) as vassal states for their own interests. It’s why the whole world either trembles or breathes a sigh of relief depending on who gets elected in the US, considering America’s power can either destroy or stabilise countries across the planet. We already LIVE in an international society, we’ve just let toxic corporate nationalism resist this for too long.

You could have some sort of dual-power agreement where the civil authorities for local and state jurisdictions are still run by and for American citizens, but then the federal authority operates under the aegis of a larger, international administration of select high-level UN representatives, local politicians, citizen’s groups that must sign off on laws the federal government passes to make sure they don’t interfere with the fundamental rights of healthcare, democratic participation, legal protection etc. So that means no MAGA governments falsely imprisoning immigrants, no lobbying groups pushing to flood society with fentanyl or deny people healthcare, etc. If anyone has a problem with this, then you have a problem with making sure people don’t get sick from unelected corporate greed. As for who would be allowed into this society? The same people who were SUPPOSED to be allowed into American society, but are being criminally targeted by white fascism - law-abiding immigrants and native-born locals. It wouldn’t be “anyone can enter the country at whim”, but someone from Somalia, or Honduras, or wherever else wouldn’t be illegally targeted, imprisoned or denied entry just because they’re not white. Companies like Amazon, Tesla etc would be nationalised due to their current parasitic business model and completely violation of worker’s rights. If someone worked for Amazon under this administration, they would be have guaranteed healthcare, vacation time, a living wage, and most likely some sort of democratic voice on the running of the company through worker boards, etc. Culturally, it would still be identifiably “American” (so baseball, BBQs, Boy Scouts etc) but it would no longer be based around white supremacy, toxic corporate individualism, fascist imperialism or jingoistic chauvinism. It would truly be the society that it claims it is - a nation for anyone, of any faith, to participate in society, make something of themselves and contribute to the common wellbeing out of a sense of human liberty, democracy and responsibility. As for the military? I imagine it would still largely be America-based, but it would radically shift its foreign policy objectives to upholding international law, promotion of human rights and the security of the nation (although truthfully that last point has almost never actually been a real concern for America), rather than as a tool for, again, fascist oligarchy to enforce its despicable aims on smaller nations and the oppression of citizens on the home front. I understand how out there this all seems. I understand how unlikely this is to occur. I understand a lot of people will be unhappy with that. But so what. “Americanism” as an ideology is directly responsible for all the evil we’re seeing today, and when America itself becomes a threat to both its own people and people elsewhere, it’s time we need to radically rethink what it means to live in a collective world, the digital age, engage in democratic politics and build an ACTUALLY just, prosperous and meaningful world for everyone. The age of toxic hatred, fascism, unrepentant corporate greed and racism needs to come to an end, for us a species to survive. We have to, collectively, realise, we either cooperate and thrive or fight and perish. The stakes on this planet are way too high otherwise.

America is ALREADY under chaos. The chaos is here. And the chaos is 100% self-inflicted, egged on by an unrepentant culture of corporatism, laziness, greed and toxic individualism. If the US was put under international administration and massive reforms made to actually ensure its citizens get looked after (seriously, how would guaranteeing healthcare be bad for anyone, other than corrupt insurance companies?), how would that do anything but improve the entire situation?

Ignoring the current nationalist posturing for taking over Greenland (which I’d be genuinely surprised if anything happens, but then again I could be wrong), I hope everyone here understands that Trump has almost single-handedly destroyed US credibility on the world stage and made communist China seem the sane, “reasonable” power on the world stage. Like, what the fuck does he and his cronies actually think will come of this? The EU will just go down without a fight and the 50,000 Greenlanders will accept imperialist domination with open arms? That nations like Britain, France, Canada, Japan, Korea, Germany, Brazil etc won’t be seriously disgusted by America’s behaviour and make geopolitical moves to counter that? America really is killing itself as an international force because it was too stupid and too greedy to give itself healthcare, and instead blamed everyone (even the fucking INUIT) for their own problems, rather than themselves. And who benefits from this the most? China. China, in contrast, seems to be an evidence-based, restrained, rational actor who won’t arbitrarily cut off trade (or fucking INVADE) it’s neighbours out of its own idiocy and hubris. So yeah, thanks Trump. Global human rights and democracy will now be replaced with Chinese-style survival of the fittest because you couldn’t help yourself but rape little girls on a Caribbean island. Fucking clown world. 🤡

There’s also the possibility that Trump made these the fuck up. He’s a liar, after all.

The thing is, we don’t even do that. If we truly believed in some sort of French existentialism “pursuit of one’s own meaning”, we would encourage people to read books, seek out new experiences, analyse their thoughts, etc, but again, little of that is profitable. Who the fuck wants to sit down and wonder why they’re on this planet when you can just numb your brain with endless culture war brainrot, Fortnite Mobile and a cheap hit of booze or porn? Again, our entire existence is built around mindless consumption. We fundamentally don’t care about anything. We just sort of exist. Life isn’t real. We’re all zombies walking through the meaning apocalypse. EDIT: Just to be clear, I’m not above this. My day to day life is pretty dull and I legit spend a lot of time just playing Skyrim or watching random videos on YouTube. I haven’t found a way out of this mess better than anyone else, but god I wish more people realised we were in a mess in the first place. It’s pretty goddamn exhausting most days.