Apparition of Jack

@Leo GuraDo it man!!

@Leo Gura At some point do you think these people will ever realise how fundamentally miserable, broken, sad and lonely people they are? None of them can stand each other. None of them sees any of the others as more than anything but as means to their own ends. Even their own families fucking hate them. Thiel, Bezos, Musk, Trump, Zuckerberg - they’re all so fucking miserable. As much as it annoys me they have all this power, part of me is glad I’ll never end up like that, living a constant, never-ending web of lies and deceptions, chasing the next high. It just sounds awful tbh.

Who the fuck knows. If it suits them they’ll certainly try. But we can fight back, and we can win. There is a growing movement of righteous anger and a dawning realisation among the people that democracy isn’t just something you take for granted, it’s something you have to uphold and work for. There is a growing realisation that democracy truly is the best form of government, and the progress of history requires its expansion, not diminishment. There is a growing realisation that our safe, prosperous societies are only built off common work, which can only be done if the people are free and protected by the people around them. Trump cannot and will not win. The path forward is arduous and difficult to see, but it is one we will walk, and one will overcome. And at the end of it all, the great promise of world history, the great promise of prosperity, community and freedom for all, will finally be achieved. This is our moment.

@aurum this is like a bingo card for people Republicans are caught having sex with

I think he does a bunch of drugs.

Nah man this is pathetic. Like actual caveman-tier politics analysis. You might be thinking I’m rude or an asshole, and you’re probably right, but I also have to call it as I see it. MAGA and Trump are existential threats to democracy. They would sooner send the world to hell if it meant retaining power than creating heaven if it meant listening to reason. If you can’t see this, then I feel sorry for you. I truly hope one day you get out of your delusions.

@Elliott AOC might be loud because there’s a lot of justified anger in the US right now. It’s weird that you say Bernie is civil why AOC is loud when the two of them are openly aligned with each other. If feel like you’ve sunk a whole bunch of propaganda about her that just isn’t true. If you actually listen to her (and not what some talking head on the media says about her) you’d see that she’s actually incredibly nuanced, even for her loudest opinions. Of course, that doesn’t mean you have to agree with everything she says, but when it comes to thinks like corruption, Republican overreach, citizen right’s, wealth hoarding etc she’s always right on the money. Next time you hear her, listen to what she’s actually saying, and don’t just focus on the fact that she’s “loud” or whatever. There’s a LOT of people suffering under Trump right now (poor people, migrants (even legal ones), seniors, children etc) and her agitation is a way to highlight that suffering and stop MAGA from ruining even more lives. Again, even if you don’t fully agree with her, I urge you to reconsider your thoughts on what she says and see if you agree with anything she’s saying. EDIT: Comparing her to Trump or MTG is just ridiculous, lol. Trump is loud against working Americans and vulnerable people; AOC is loud against oligarchs and state oppression. It’s like saying both Nazi Germany and the US were bad in WW2 because “both wanted to defeat their opponent” - the comparison is just nonsense.

So what’s your problem with AOC then? I feel like she agrees with basically all of this (honestly I’m not even sure she supports illegal immigration, she just doesn’t support using unconstitutional actions against them when they’re here.) Where do you take issue?

You have strange politics 🤔 What do you believe politically?

Idk what to say dude. If Bannon is so anti-Trump why is he literally aligned with him? If Bannon pushes back against social security cuts, it’s because he recognises how unpopular they are and how much they’ll hurt the Trump administration. He doesn’t actually care at all about old people not getting pensions, he’s just trying to gain as much power as he can to push his ethnonationalist agenda. I mean dunking on AOC? Really dude? She’s one of the few shining beacons of truth and humanity in this shitty time lol, how can you be so blind? 😂 Bannon, Trump, etc will never, ever give a shit about you. They don’t care about democracy, or prosperity, or anything like that. They just want to push their nationalist agendas and make their way to the banks.

@Elliott Dude, Bannon has been aligned with Trump since Day 1. If you can’t see how MAGA propagandists operate by now then IDK what to tell you lol. Maybe you could get away with being this gullible in 2017 but not these lol. If you want some conservatives who actually give a shit about the country, check out the Lincoln Project. They have a bunch of incredible anti-Trump content to check out lol, its honestly hilarious 😂

@Elliott He literally did Elon’s Nazi salute a few days ago as an overt wink to his supporters - he’s trying to fool you. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/3/12/2309813/-Steve-Bannon-s-plot-to-convert-Democrats-into-ultranationalists

Yes, absolutely. It’s a shame that some of the best anti-Trump messaging isn’t coming from the Dems at all, but then again fuck the status quo Dems lol. You’re absolutely right in pushing that sort of message - this current crisis is a crisis of American democracy that extends beyond party lines, so messages like that appeal to people across the political spectrum.

No. Be careful with Bannon. He is one of the worst people in Trump’s circle. Hes an explicit white nationalist who plans to use American dissatisfaction with the status quo to turn America into a white ethnostate. He will say things that progressives like (like supporting Medicare or calling Musk racist) to make himself more palatable to Americans whilst in actuality not caring about any of these and in fact pushing for the exact opposite. Without giving him too much credit, he’s incredibly cunning and has a very strong grasp on social psychology but is using those to push one of the most evil ends in existence. Don’t be fooled by his lies. That’s what he’s hoping to achieve.

This is why I made a thread about allying with Christian Democrats. I think disaffected conservatives (like the Lincoln Project) are a completely slept on demographic who’ll be key to defeating Trump.

This might be a controversial topic, but with the increase of global instability over the last few years alongside the broad changes to society in general (the internet, global trade etc.) I think now more than ever is the right time to genuinely seeing the UN as a government in its own right, and not just a limited forum for discussion / international policy making. Take a look at the recent violence in the Middle East. Can we honestly say that, say, having both Hamas and Israel vehemently fight to assert their nationalistic claims is leading us to a better world? Even for their own citizens? Of course the most radical in each of these countries will never see eye-to-eye, but for the broad groups of people caught up in the crossfire, what good does it serve them to have governments wage war unchecked to assert obscure nationalist claims going back thousands of years? Or how about the massacres in Syria? The cause and responsibility of these massacres seems murky at best, and in a nation still reeling from a decade-long civil war and now being carved up by dozens of competing powers (Turkey, Israel, Iran, Russia, the US, the EU etc), is it really so insane to think that some sort of international governing body committed to democracy and the rule of law would lead to worse outcomes for the people in Syria? The challenges of the 21st century are sometimes too great to comprehend, so how is relying on the same nationalistic dick-waving humanity has done so for the last 10,000 years going to solve any of them? Are we not one people? One species? One humanity? Does it really, genuinely matter if it’s Russia, or Iran, or a bunch of Sunni radicals who control some small strip of East Syrian coast? What else is our endgame? Constant shit-flinging endlessly, dragging each other down over arcane disagreements that serve no purpose other than to puff up the egos of a handful of people? In a world where literally everyone is now online, where everyone can talk to anyone else anywhere on the planet at the drop of a hat, is it really so crazy to think we should start using our collective human resources to build a co-operative, prosperous society that respects law, democracy and arbitration? Are our ties to our limited pieces of land so great that we’d rather die in a rocket crater, flag in hand, than prosper with our neighbours who might look slightly different to us? At what point do we say that cooperation and agreement is better than division and bloodlust? How many more random massacres, pogroms, bombings, wars, riots, assassinations, invasions are we going to brook until we say enough is enough? What’s the point of all this bloodshed? Where does it leave us? What does it accomplish? There has to be a better way, and there is; and that way is for us to genuine look to genuine world cooperation. Thank you for coming to me ActualizedTalk.

@nerdspeak Do you believed that COVID poses a health risk?

I see Musk as a symptom of the digital age. I think he, like countless others, drank the sci-fi kool aid and genuinely because that just some vague idea of “technology” is enough to solve humanity’s deepest social, economic and philosophical problems, without anyone genuine appreciation of the difficulty of such endeavours or how crucial love and compassion is to uplifting the world. He’s good at selling the *idea* of a techno-utopia, even if he doesn’t genuinely understand the full perspective of how to get there. Look at his Hyperloop for instance - it was marketed as the “transportation of the future”, like something straight out of I, Robot. Even the aesthetics of it proved this - it was covered in fancy sci-fi style lighting to make it look “futuristic.” The fact that it was just a generic tunnel that we’ve had since literal caveman days wasn’t important - all that mattered was that it have the *idea* of the future, even if it was never going to be the future itself. Also look at his “robotic helpers” at his recent tech showcase - they weren’t AI-powered robots serving drinks, they were, again, literally just remote-controlled machines controlled by someone off-premise. Again, the fact that it wasn’t actually “the future” wasnt important, all that mattered was that it *felt* like “the future.” Musk, fundamentally, doesn’t sell technology or progress, he sells *vibes.* And in a world with enough gullible fools who genuinely think AI will take us to Mars so we can all have sex with sexbots in space, those vibes can make someone incredibly powerful, even if they come at the cost of, well, destroying the *actual* future in the process.

We should make the UN a genuine ruling international body. First give it jurisdiction over problem areas or areas with signifiant international crossover (Jerusalem, Kashmir, NYC, etc) then expend from there. Why are we so afraid of an international government?

The thing is, even this is subordinate to his desire to harvest money from society. I do think he is, on some level, sincere in wanting to expand space exploration, but not if it comes at the cost of his own power/wealth. As it stands, the Artemis Program and SLS/Orion rockets being developed by NASA are our best bet at becoming an interplanetary species in the next few decades, but because they are run by public servants and not “enlightened corporate techbros” (lol) he absolutely can’t stand that thought and is trying to destroy it as a result. He’s unironically the greatest threat to space travel since, well, I’m not even sure lol. Greed is one hell of a drug.

If he’s so keen on getting people to space, why is he calling for the ISS to be deorbited? Why is he saying a moon base is unnecessary to get to Mars (it isn’t, it’ll be an important step)? Beyond just that, why is he trying to defund national parks, Medicare, veteran benefits etc? None of these things are bad for the economy and the only explanation for these actions is that he’s a greedy asshole who can’t stand the idea of rival powers (in this case, the federal government.) How has he genuinely made the lives of regular people better around the world? Electric cars and satellite internet are cool but they aren’t revolutionary ideas that’ll create a more compassionate, just society. Why has he barely contributed to charity? Why does he publicise the names of innocent federal workers for his supporters to send death threats to? Why does he refuse to let the mother of his children see her kids? Why does he censor journalists at the behest of authoritarian governments? Why does he pressure state governments to cancel meaningful railway projects in favour of his hyper-loop that won’t ever exist? Why does he bust unions and treat employees like disposable utilities? Etc etc. All of his actions don’t indicate someone who’s fundamentally trying to uplift the world, but of someone with delusions of grandeur who’s convinced himself he’s the next Einstein when he routinely gets basic sociology and engineering wrong. He’s excellent at marketing himself and creating investor hype but that’s just typical Stage Orange bullshit. He’s really not the sort of selfless Gandhi or even Nikola Tesla he presents himself as.

Elon Musk is a solipsistic devil who on some level genuinely believes he’s in some sort of simulation where he’s the main character and his goal in life is to suck as much wealth out of this simulation (money) as possible because that’ll lead to immortality. Not only is he a deeply unserious and deluded fool, without going into it too much I genuinely think there might be some sort of darker forces attached to him if you want to get into the woo-woo perspective. With that being said, as reckless as he is you shouldn’t demonise him, he might be a terrible person but he’s still a human being. But a force for good he is not.

Collective American ego backlash due to 40 years of neoliberal economics. “Life has gotten hard and mean because we thought the benevolent billionaires would make us all rich; when that didn’t happen we decided to bully Canada and Denmark instead “ That’s all this is. Trump is a manifestation of the stupidity of America’s collective psyche. It won’t work forever though; eventually the truth with set fire to all of his bullshit.

I’ve heard this repeated to me my whole life. I don’t buy it. Americans are arrogant af. What they claim is a “culture of ambition” I call entitlement, selfishness, bullying and wilful ignorance. Americans seem to be ambitious in everything other than helping their fellow man. You’re more rewarded there for being a devil who fucks over countless lives in the pursuit of profit than a conscious humanitarian who aims to uplift humanity. Of course this is true for most of the world, but Americans dial it up to 11. Get back to me when Americans “strive” to create sustainable energy, a universal health system, a renewed investment in democracy and a bunch of cool, pro-humanitarian projects (social AI? Space exploration? etc.) Until then, I’ll ignore them for the sinking ship they are.

Ask it if it considers Musk a threat to democracy ;p