Apparition of Jack

@kbone Bingo. It’s just Republican white supremacy all the way down. They made legal immigration too hard for people wanting to share in some of the wealth America gets from the world, and now they’re paying the price.

So, for those wanting to know why I find the idea of America enforcing its borders at the point of a gun so abhorrent, I’ll explain. Take this with a grain of salt because this is just my unfalsifiable intuition, but basically I strongly believe the last election was something of a nation-wide spiritual test for America to see if it could choose truth over lies, and ultimately it chose lies. America, had it been a sane and grounded entity, could’ve voted for the black lady promising housing rebates, loan forgiveness and corporate crackdowns, but instead it unironically chose pedophilia, oligarchal dominance and nightmarish security state overreach. It had one last chance to prove to the universe that it as a sovereign entity had legitimacy for its own existence, but ultimately it failed that chance spectacularly. I mean, if it were being utterly, absolutely honest with itself, it would admit that it voted for Trump again just because it didn’t want another “n***** running the White House”, but of course it will delude itself into thinking it voted against “Cultural Marxism, communism, Islamism” and whatever other buzzword bullshit it uses to justify its hate. Again, these are just my own personal intuitions and ramblings. Feel free to call me some misguided leftist all you want, I don’t care. But I truly believe the American state has in some sense lost all claims to moral and cultural legitimacy, and will now wrestle with that moving forward. You might not like to hear this, but that culture is now effectively moving into a “post-America” era. What the US once thought of itself was is now dead and buried, murdered in November 2024 and now making way for something else to be born. What this means, in practice, is that white people will now have to get used to black and brown people being as fundamentally American as they are, from now until the rest of time. That means black CEOs, black presidents, brown senators, brown military generals, and so on. Of course, a lot of white Americans will hate this, but so what? Like I said they had their chance to maintain some cultural legitimacy in 2024, but they blew it. White supremacy is dead and the multi-racial civilisation is now the future.

Just because your average dipshit Trump voter complaining about Spanish on government forms doesn’t understand how he benefits from a worldwide system of extraction and oppression, doesn’t mean he’s immune to the consequences of that system when they come back to bite him in the ass. Just as @BlueOak points out, America had ample time to level the playing field, to use some of the massive wealth it got from other nations to re-invest in those nations and make a more stable world, but it didn’t. Instead it chose fascism, ethno-nationalism and even more corporate greed instead. I keep saying this but nature abhors an imbalance. America can only exploit other nations for so long before some of those nations want a piece of the pie. If it doesn’t want foreigners coming to its borders, it should invest in those countries instead, not shut them down and threaten to bomb them. You can’t have both, and trying to do so will cause you to lose your mind. EDIT: Empire-building is a trade-off. You sacrifice either wealth, or global influence, or cultural homogeneity depending on your goals, but you can’t have all three. America is trying to have all three, and it’s losing the plot as a result. America is like if Italians in the Roman Empire were complaining about all the Egyptians and Galls moving to Rome. Pure geopolitical blindness and economic insanity.

White America has become a parasitic entity on the planet. It’s refusal to deal with its history of slavery, oppression and death whilst maintaining its innounce has led it to some of the worst case of collective psychosis since WW2. Chucklefucks like Stephen Miller think White America is entitled to the world’s resources while giving nothing in return. It’s one thing to talk about regular human nationalism, it’s another to defend some of the most brazen forms of hypocrisy on the planet. White America uses the threat of nuclear annihilation to do what it wants with impunity on the world scale. You keep talking about power Leo, do you not understand how many times white nationalists in the White House have fantasised about nuking the Middle East or Mexico or wherever? White America have become a bunch of gutless, chickenshit cowards who think they can hide behind their bombs and absurd levels of wealth to do whatever the fuck they want, consequences be damned. Unfortunately for them, reality doesn’t work that way. EDIT: If you want to understand the deep pathology of White America, listen to this song:

Yes good point. Taking a principled non-violent stance would make the Trump administration look much worse too. The more we can stand up for what we believe in despite the threats of opposition, the better we’ll look to everyone. People love an underdog after all

But that progress is built off gruelling, often risky work. Civil Rights didn’t just happen. The abolition of slavery didn’t just happen. These things had to be fought for, by millions of people, against the powers that be that benefited from the corrupt status quo. Honestly, I’m not even saying become a revolutionary. I think old Marxist ideas are completely out of date. I’m not even sure if violence is necessary. But what is necessary is a degree of courage, selflessness and principled action most of us have just kind of forgotten about. We got to use to our cushy lives that the idea we could have a positive impact became alien to us. Calling out violence, racism and fascism isn’t a huge ask. Calling your local representatives, reaching out to vulnerable people, supporting holistic political causes isn’t a big ask. In fact, for living in some of the most prosperous societies on the planet, it’s probably the least you could do. And of course, if you’re up for it, attend protests. Be disciplined and non-violent, but resist government tyranny all the same. I’d like to point out that literally no one has died in these protests so far (compared to the Jan 6th insurrection, which led to multiple deaths.) Taking direct political action isn’t even some radical political idea - it was how America was founded. I don’t understand how all of this isn’t self-evident. If you’re a conservative for whatever reason this won’t appeal to you, but then I’d say… conservatism has failed in bettering the lives of people. All it provides is defense of greed, hatred and wilful ignorance. There are some good conservative ideas but they died as a legitimate political force in 2016 when Republicans decided Trump would make a good president. Why not be a force for good, in whatever capacity you can? Whether that’s as an activist, a community organiser, a politician, or even just someone who checks in on their neighbours? How tf is that so frightening? Lmao. Talk about a “male loneliness epidemic” 🤣 And always remember, we can and we will win. It’s written in the stars. The question isn’t a matter of if, but how. Will it come after 15 years, with constant relentless bullshit from fascist MAGA in the meantime? Or will it come much sooner than that, if only we work for it?

You know what I think it is? What it really just comes down to? We’re all afraid of being killed. That’s it. We’ve gotten so use to political stability and reasonable (enough) governance thar the idea that this things could fail and the institutions that should protect us instead could turn against us frightens the begeezus out of us. Which… of course it does. That’s scary as fuck. But… that’s where we are anyway. People could die. Well-meaning, sensible people could die. None of us chose this. Many of us chose to fight against this. But it found us all the same. Look, I don’t want to die more than anyone else. I enjoy my life here on earth and want to make the most of it. And I’m certainly not going to needlessly go out and provoke violence. But paradoxically sometimes the best way to protect yourself is to protect others first. “First they came for the unionists” and all that. If anyone here has a sense of faith or their higher power/self I feel like it’s time to put your trust in that. Learn to accept every day as it comes and believe in the fundamental goodness of humanity, no matter what happens. We’re eventually going to die anyway, why not at least try to uphold what you truly believe while you’re here? What’s the alternative? Just roll over and let fascism win? Let millions of people be oppressed, hurt, imprisoned, shot and killed while we do nothing? Especially if we had the chance to stop it? Why would anyone accept that? Is life with a jackboot over your neck really a life? You could argue that at least you’d be alive, but to what end? Just so you can get high / jerk off / slave away at a job in private? And especially when there’s a chance for a better future for everyone? Why content yourself with misery? Don’t any of you believe this world could be better? Freer, kinder, more creative, more uplifting? Are we just meant to be slaves for faceless corporations and vile political ideologies our entire lives? Is that all that it means to be human? Or is there the chance of something more? Something truer, more meaningful, more wholesome, more enlightening? Why not take that chance? Why waste the only life you’ve got pretending this is all you’re good for? We can actually do this, actually. It’s not impossible to build a better world. In 1939 everyone thought the Nazis would rule. A few years later Hitler was dead and democracy reigned triumphant. Why not follow in the steps of our forefathers? Why not believe in the world that’s already given us so much? We aren’t an evil species, and I’ll believe that until the day I die. Why give up?

I’m not saying other races don’t have problems. Clearly Latino, African etc countries are struggling. But I am saying that as a collective entity, white Americans holds far more power than all these other nations combined, and so if they choose division and chaos, they have a much greater chance to make this a reality. With power comes responsibility and all that, which is something I feel like a lot of white people have unfortunately forgotten.

I mean, call it intuition if you will. And yes, I do actually. Part of my goal is to bridge gaps between everyone, including people I vehemently disagree with. It’s just that sometimes you have to make a stand to defend the things you truly believe in. If someone from the right wishes to join me in fighting for freedom and democracy, I’m all ears.

That’s the problem though- it’s not that they won’t use those tactics, it’s just that (so far) it’s been too politically costly to do so. If Trump thought he cold maintain power forever by shooting a bunch of peaceful protestors, he would do so in an instant. We can’t let it get that bad. That’s the whole point of resistance - to make fascism so politically costly that it ends up defeating itself. Trump’s first term was largely reigned in by capable people putting a check on his worst impulses; this second time we don’t have that luxury. We genuinely have to fight like our lives depend on it because they may very well will. We can’t repeat the mistakes of the past. We have to show the world humanity is better than that, and that there is hope for all of us. We have to defeat fascism.

Leo is full of shit. A deeply confused man. A man who openly talks about the corruption of the Trump administration but then defend’s Trump’s illegal policies. A man who talks about the need for growth, love and consciousness but then stays in the same outdated thought-patterns he has for years. A man who talks about the need to question your biases then refuses to do so himself. I think he’s just scared at heart. A man unable to completely accept the collective reality he lives in and would much rather believe the comforting lie that he’s above it all. I don’t even hate the guy. I just wish he found the courage to admit his own weaknesses. EDIT: The worst part is, Leo would be an unmitigated force for good if he just put his ego aside and took to the sacred work of resisting tyranny and protecting humanity and democracy. His race, insight, wealth, connections, manner of speech and utterly impeccable epistemic foundation would be like a tidal wave of light and truth against all the endless, vile, racist, selfish grifter bullshit infecting the manosphere these days and politics at large. He would be nigh-untouchable to all the masses of confused white men unable to claw themselves out of epistemic and emotional poverty. If he committed to human activism, he could genuinely change the world, but he doesn’t. His heart is too full of doubt.

Just because they’re not openly advocating for the extermination of Latinos or whatever (although go on Twitter and you’ll see countless accounts expressing that exact sentiment), doesn’t mean their worldview isn’t fundamentally baked in anti-human white supremacy. A Nazi who “only” wants to deport every black and brown person from America regardless of the human cost is still a Nazi, they don’t need the death camps and swastika logos to prove this. A radical Islamist who calls for the death of the West and the final victory of Islam is still a radical Islamist, even if they don’t openly try to suicide bomb people (but then again they probably have obvious connections to groups who do.) It’s a sinister game of deflect and deny and I’m honestly tired of pretending that illegal mass ethnic deportations are “ok” just because the people doing so aren’t also waging war on Poland or whatever.

Maybe the US is broke. I don’t know. But a lot of that is just due to mismanagement of resources rather than an actual lack of financial / material capacity. If America can find the money to spend over a $1 Trillion of its Army, couldn’t it use that even just a fraction of that money investing in infrastructure, healthcare, etc? It would be one thing if America had an equitable tax system and it was broke, it’s another thing entirely when most of the wealth is being funnelled to the top and yet it still refuses to fix its most glaring issues. We can’t keep exempting taxes our way to prosperity, especially for the massive, unaccountable corporations that, like you say, are only focused on quarterly profits and not long-term nation building. EDIT: America should’ve spend the last 40 years heavily investing in education, healthcare, infrastructure, etc if it wanted to avoid social collapse. Instead we got the complete opposite, with less and less civic funding and more and more control to corporations who couldn’t give less of a fuck about the health, fertility or stability of the people in their society. It’s a spiritual sickness at its core; a delirious belief that profit alone will save us from death and that collective cooperation and nation building are… evil? Idk. It’s straight up Anti-Christ shit.

I don’t know, whatever I can? Resist? Organise? Get involved in anti-fascist and pro-democracy groups? Look out for my non-white friends? I’m just one guy, I can’t solve this alone. But I do know for there to be any justice on this earth Trump’s Nazi bullshit and his den of pigs need to be brought down for good. I don’t know the answer but I’m not going to stand by on the sidelines in the meantime.

Stephen Miller is a white nationalist using federal forces to illegally expel integrated Hispanic people from the country. There’s no other explanation for this other than he’s a Nazi who wants to promote white people at the expense of all other races.

If it walks like a Nazi, and quacks like a Nazi, it’s probably a Nazi.

You’re a Nazi apologist. It’s so obvious that you are but you’d rather die than ever admit this to yourself. Trump and his cabinet are unequivocally Nazis. Stop trying to go to bat for them. It’s pathetic.

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/stephen-millers-affinity-white-nationalism-revealed-leaked-emails/

Exactly this. Stephen Miller, Steve Bannon, Elon Musk, etc are legitimately all outright Nazis. As in, they have well-documented ties to neo-Nazi groups or have openly made statements favouring white supremacy. Neo-Nazis attacked the White House. Trump told the Proud Boys to “stand by.” MAGA is literally a Nazi movement. This isn’t controversial to say. The Shadow of Hitler still haunts the minds of selfish white Americans everywhere.

You mean like Jan 6th?

The same state that won’t even pay his son’s bills when that son comes down with epilepsy? How does that help his survival?

Unlike the wolf chasing the rabbit that ICE agent’s survival doesn’t depend upon locking up that school teacher. He could instead just go home and watch the football. I feel like this is basic logical induction, Leo.

Doesn’t seem like to me. That Mexican gym teacher being locked up isn’t meeting their survival needs.

Survival for who?

SMH. You’re a lost cause dude. I mean that sincerely. You’ve broken a sacred trust between the powerful and the powerless for the sake of your own egoic gain. For shame. For shame. For shame.