Apparition of Jack

So obviously we’re all aware of both the collective grief / outrage Charlie Kirk’s assassination has caused. Regardless of your politics, it’s deniable it’s caused some sort of reaction. We have Polish politicians holding a minute of silence for him, after all. Ignoring the politics of it, I think one thing this has highlighted for me is just how damn illusionary everything we see on the internet is. Charlie Kirk is being heralded as some sort of public saint, akin with MLK or Gandhi. Don’t get me wrong, his death was horrible and shouldn’t have happened, but at the same time… why was this one random guy so important? Ive never met him. I have no real idea who he is. He has no real qualifications. Why am I aware of his existence? I doubt he’s even set foot in my country. Why are figures like Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, and, to give even the left it’s due, Hasan, Destiny, Sam Seder etc so widely known and influential? I mean, I know the literal reason - they’re YouTube stars - but I mean in a more sociological / cultural sense. Why did we decide, collectively, that a handful of randos who might as well be Seasame Street puppets with how authentic they are on camera can have the power to shape the thoughts and actions of millions, if not billions of people around the world? Charlie Kirk wasnt my friend. He wasn’t even my rival. He was literally some guy whom I have virtually no cultural, familial, national, economic etc ties to whatsoever. He might as well be the Sultan of Timbuktu for all of his relevance to my life. Again, his passing is tragic, but then… so our countless other deaths. In fact, there are probably human rights activists being killed right now in third world countries who are far more humane and impactful than Charlie ever was who’ll end up dying in pure obscurity. I don’t know who Donald Trump is. To me he’s that asshole from “the Apprentice.” Why is he considered so damn important to my life? (Yes I know he’s president and all that, but he runs the country like a reality show.) I don’t know. This whole thing has me thinking. Why have we let what are essentially human avatars dictate our ideas and opinions for so long? Whatever happened to like, reality?

America has basically been on one big trauma treadmill since 9/11. While I think too many conservatives are unhinged cookers, I also can’t help but feel like their insane brainrot is just a natural part of living in such a chaotic society. I do sorta feel bad for them.

This situation is getting worse by the minute. Really not sure what to make of all this. We’re watching an uprising occur in real time. I’m trepidatious about how this will all play out. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0m4vjwrdwgo

I’ve been trying to come up with a psychological profile for Trump and MAGA as a whole and I’ve come across the term of “hierarchical inclusion” as a way to frame their racial dynamics. Essentially, hierarchical inclusion is different from the outright slavery or segregation of old - it is no longer about open, legalised discrimination against certain races / groups, and does - in theory - celebrate the idea that Americans can come from anywhere, whilst in practice maintaining white hegemony over politics/culture/economics and only accepting non-white groups so long as they perform their “roles” correctly or not rock the boat too much. Basically it’s the vision that America is an “open, non-racist” country, but one only populated by a comfortable white ruling class, while (aside from the occasional celebrity or token politician), every other person has to stay within their “acceptable roles” (farm labourers for Mexicans, low-income workers for black people, etc.) It’s the vision of the white suburban dad driving his jeep to a taco truck, attending an NBA game with black players, shooting the shit with his Arab coworker, then coming home and still expecting America to look like it did during his childhood in the 1970s, despite all the economic and cultural changes that have occurred to make his daily routine possible. Idk, I’m just rambling a bit. Does this make sense to anyone else?

Why did Trump call for the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by” when asked to condemn them after the events of Charlottesville? Those are not words of someone who rejects Nazism.

Not all people who voted for Hitler were violent either. That doesn’t matter. The end result is the same.

Wait so why are you against black people then? I don’t get it 😂

Why not just learn to get along with your black, gay etc neighbours instead (and vice versa)? Seems like it’d be way less effort.

99% of black and gay people will reject this. What now?

How else do you achieve a white nation?

I’m not a doomer. I think the world can heal. But not if it’s not being honest about where it’s currently at. Neo-Nazism has gone unchallenged for too long and we’re all witnessing its corrosive effects. It’s time we end it once and for all and build a truly democratic world.

Alt-right has engaged in violence. See: Charlottesville, Christchurch, Jan 6th.

Alt-right means Nazi.

Doesn’t matter. Nazis are opportunists who will say and do whatever they can to get into power, before turning on the people who supported them. Hitler allied himself with certain anti-capitalist types because anti-capitalism was popular in the 1930s before turning on them and killing then all (Night of the Long Knives.) Please try and understand what you’re up against.

You think being one of the “good conservatives” will save you? Charlie Kirk thought the same. Nazis came for him all the same. Stop being a useful fool for fascists and actually respect the danger these people represent to America and democracy at large.

Ffs stop defending Nazis. Elon Musk supports the AfD (a neo-Nazi political party literally caught holding Nazis rallies.) He uses Groyper memes (using Pepe the Frog avatars.) He literally goes on /pol/. HE DID A NAZI SALUTE. Elon Musk is a Nazi.

Steve Bannon is a Nazi.

He did a Nazi salute dude I don’t know what else to say.

No, they absolutely are. Bannon and Musk did Nazi salutes on stage. Carlson routinely spreads the Nazi “great replacement” lie. Please stop giving these people the time of day. The evidence is right in front of you. They want a world for white people (and a very specific type of white person at that) and white people only. We can’t let their putrid hatred fester any longer.

Yep. So is Steve Bannon, Richard Spencer, Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk. We are literally run by Nazis. Not hyperbole.

Most likely he’s trying to cover his tracks. Trying to distance himself from the very real hate he fomented and to avoid the very obvious criminal investigations coming his way.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/22/jan-6-committee-releases-full-final-report-on-capitol-attack-00075380 https://www.adl.org/resources/article/extremists-face-arrests-uncertain-future-following-january-6-insurrection These aren’t allegations, these are documented facts. The “QAnon Shaman” (remember him?) held groyper ideology. Use your eyes, bro. Radical Nazis have infiltrated the highest levels of our society.

They’re named after a Pepe the Frog variant called “Groyper.” They’re extremely embedded in the hyper-ironic internet “meme war” bullshit that has been floating around since at least GamerGate. It’s a tactic to both make their movement more palatable to disaffected young people and deflect from criticisms for being genocidal Nazis through layers of insincere irony (“my Pepe the Frog meme in Nazi garb crushing a Jewish person isn’t a call to antisemtic violence, it’s just an edgy joke!”) Edit: The Wikipedia article on them is pretty good. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers Edit #2: Even more damning evidence against Nick Fuentes and the groypers.

How is it the left’s fault that the shooter turned out to be a Nick Fuentes groyper? Charlie was killed for not being right-wing ENOUGH, not for being too right-wing. EDIT: Remember when a groyper tried to kill Trump in 2024? Or groypers attacked the Capitol and got nine people killed? Or when groypers killed a protestor in Charlottesville? Or when a groyper killed dozens of innocent mosque worshippers in Christchurch? Nazism, by definition, is the lethal implementation of white supremacy. That’s why they committed the Holocaust. That’s why they kill political opponents and minorities today. It’s a death cult in its psychology to the core. It’s demon worship in its most obvious and vile essence.

I fucking told you Leo. I warned you of the threat of the extreme right and you brushed me off as “not being committed to the truth.” Well “the truth” just shot Charlie Kirk through the jugular for not being hateful to Jews and blacks enough. Fascism is an ideological cancer. It’s pure brainrot. It’s a suicide cult, and a pure corrosive force on democratic politics. There is no “debating” or “reasoning” your way out of it. You kill it in its crib, because otherwise things like this happen. And Trump has coddled them the entire time. When I say “Trump is a fascist”, it’s because he’s a fascist - he courts the Nick Fuentes and Stephen Millers and Steve Bannons of the world to hold onto power. It doesn’t matter if he, personally, doesn’t hate black people as much as they do. The fact that hes willing to use them in the first place is enough to prove he’s compromised. He has to go.