Raptorsin7

I just found this guy. @kinesin He's no longer active, but his post history is a gold mine of wisdom and insight Not a buddha, but his insights on breathing and criticism of this community and spiritual ego's is pretty good

@Matthew85 I'm trying to understand this too, good luck. Maybe if you had a higher purpose that required you to be in those heightened states. Like if you were on a mission to execute some part of god's divine will. If you arent in touch with a higher purpose, maybe that could create a medium to embody these states of being

@BuddhistLover I think ultimately you will evolve past all forms of sexuality. But I think it's an upward development. So if you identify as gay, then I would predict if you kept evolving you would eventually transcend that identity. The thing is I've ever seen a genuine gay spirtual teacher, but I've seen heterosexual married spirtual teachers. If I met someone I considered a genuine teacher who fully identified as gay that would shatter my argument

@BuddhistLover Its not just genetics. That is an oversimplification. See what I wrote above about the possibility to dissolve same sex attraction

@zurew Transcending your identification as a gay man/woman. I don't know for certain, but what Osho sais seems closer to the truth than the PC answers you typically see.

@zurew I think he's talking about as you evolve spirituality you will transcend it. I knew a guy on the forum who said he went through a phase of intense attraction to a guy, and when he went deep into that feeling of same sex attraction it dissolved

I'm going to do this program. It's a two day online workshop. I'm really excited for this one

@Leo Gura What do you think of what Osho wrote? He said homosexuals will have to develop to heterosexuals to maximize their spiritual growth.

What is the wiser or higher conscious approach to sexual relationships? For example, some peoples approach to relationships is to kidnap, murder, and rape their victims/partners, like serial killers. I would consider this a low conscious approach to relationships. But what's on the other end of the spectrum. I'm torn between polyamory and monogamy, I can see merits of both systems. My instinct is leaning towards one long term partner being the way I'd love to live, but I think the absolute truth about relationships will ultimately win out. What does everyone think

@soos_mite_ah You can try listening to some quality spiritual teachers and see if their approach resonates, or you can attend a meditation retreat and get a more intense taste of genuine spirituality. If you believe you are exhausting your current stage of development then maybe psychidelics could be worth exploring. They will give you a new perspective and maybe you'll get more clarity about what's next

@patricknotstar You likely have to work on feelings of self worth and value. If you perceive yourself as being lower value than her there's no way the relationship can work, and she will lose attraction. Woman will intuitively perceive that you view yourself as being lower in value, and that will slowly kill her attraction towards you if you want a stable relationship. My advice would be to find resources about how to change your perception of your own value and self worth, and apply those teachings.

@cetus I've seen some commercial devices for around 300-600, do you think it's worth it or no

@cetus Do you still like using neurofeed back machines for meditation? I remember you mentioned something like that a while back

@Kalki Avatar Can you give more information? What exactly are you experiencing? And what kind of relationship do you have?

That's a fair point. I guess it's one of those things it would be great to avoid, but it's also nice to know you have the capacity to handle the more difficult parts of life

At the very least this kind of stuff builds resilience. If you can handle your girlfriend leaving you in sex positive festival you are on resilient mofo

Fair enough I get this. I think polyamory could be fun to explore, I have felt how easily love can flow between two people so I can see part of the allure. One of my mentors told me a story about how he had a mentor attend a sex positive festival with his girlfriend, at the end of the festival his girlfriend told him she's leaving with another guy she met. This scenario seems like the fate of poly relationships without a value on commitment. Although this was probably best for both people so who knows

@Knowledge Hoarder Everyone will die, so every relationship will come to an end

God creates many fruit trees. But he also created many worthy pursuits beyond food and consumption. I would be happy to restrict my diet to apples, while engaging in pursuits that fulfill me beyond a level that fruit could ever satisfy. The thing is this would make sense to me if you didn't have primary partners, because you did restrict your diet in some sense to apples. The long term relationships were good enough where you chose to maintain them, so it's like you were happy with apples, but then you also wanted other appetizers on the side.

I would say that sexual relationships are akin to eating in general. Once you eat you are done, you move on to something else. You don't spend all day and all your focus on eating. A long term monogamous relationship would satisfy your hunger, which would then free you to pursue higher ideals and goals. I mean your love and deep attraction was in some sense limited and proscribed because you had long term partners. You clearly enjoyed the same meat and vegetables for a long period, enough that you maintainted it above other relationships

@gettoefl I guess the question is does your your abundance of love have to mean multiple sexual relationships. You can love everyone, and not have sex with everyone and be in long term relationship with them. The logic of having an abundance of love and thus not restricting your self to one person seems like it would lead to no relationships and you are just in love with everyone and everything. But thanks for sharing your experience

Had you completely transcended jealousy during your relationship? And were there ever concerns that you or your partners would find someone more compatible and leave the relationship? Also, what was the purpose of having other partners during that time? What was missing from your relationship that led you to seek out more partners?

Rumi Loch Kelly

How much effort is required to be aware of your own experience? Awareness is the ground of reality and require 0 concentration or effort to be aware. Concentration is a natural byproduct of the technique, rather than something that needs to be cultivated

Ancient Egypt has almost nothing in common with what's conventionally thought of as tribes in Africa. In the time of Alexander the Egyptians were more similar to areas like Rome and Carthage in terms of their population. Apparently ancient India had flying cars and nuclear power, that may be a better example