Raptorsin7

It really is. Can you show me where any of these teachers gave 1 liner responses that death is an illusion without further elaboration to an audience littered with mental illness? Better yet i'd love to hear where these teachers gaslit their audience into believing they 0 have trauma and defended the actions of a pedo with the truism that all is love. If you're trying to make me see that Leo is not worth demonizing and Tate is then you won't be able to because it's not true.

Where is the clear evidence of sex trafficking? Where is the evidence of him grooming CHILDREN? Where is the evidence of him stealing money? This is stuff is all hearsay and circumstantial, you don't actually know the truth about any of these things. What happened to guilty until proven innocent? There's a charitable interpretation to everything you wrote but you're too dense and biased to see it. Might be the autism flaring up. I can show you where Leo displayed a gross negligence in expressing harmful beliefs that likely led many people to suicide or psychosis. I can show you where Leo has admitted to going out and picking up and being with women who are drunk/under the influence while he's sober. I can show you where Leo talked about going to a women's apartment who was so drunk she was virtually passed out and he barely decided not to get with her. Again, I really don't want to drag Leo here but the hypocrisy is something else here and i'm getting tired of Leo feeding the fire with his grift.

@zurew I have never said Tate is an angel with 0 flaws. My point is the demonization and criticism from guys like you is hilarious given we're on Leo's forum. In my view promoting suicidal ideology to a schizo audience is worse than the things Tate has been accused of being. Manipulating women, not caring about women, admitting to be doing shady things in the past, etc all things Leo is guilty of as well. But again you don't have the same energy for Leo, I wonder why that is? Hmm. Are you really that dense that you think I am committed to Tate's ideology or think he's a god lol? I know the sheep on this forum can be delusional but come on man. At least fake some honesty and integrity

Amen

@Carl-Richard Time stamp

Where did he share a step by step guide on how to traffic innocent women? Everything you're saying about Tate is purely speculation. Nothing has been proven. At this point everything about Leo is hard facts, with Tate we have no idea the truth. I wouldn't expect a guy who's entire life course is dictated by fear of the truth to have an honest discussion tbh

@Carl-Richard It's subjective what is worse. Gross negligence regarding topics that can tip your mentally fragile followers over the edge is pretty bad. We don't know even for certain the extent of what Tate did and the effect he had.

My whole point is the demonization and criticism of Tate is hypocrisy and devilry. I think Leo is doing his best and I think he has a lot of potential to do a lot of good, but yeah if you can see with any degree of clarity, Tate is not the monster you demons think he is.

@Carl-Richard @Thought Art So we've had two suicides on the forum. Leo has countless times expressed the view in jest that there is no death, death is love, etc. Imagine how a suicidal person would interpret this? It's also clear that this forum is populated by suicidal people so the fact that Leo still expressed those views with such little regard for the psychology of his audience is grossly negligent. Being grossly negligent towards an impressionable suicidal audience and expressing views as an authority that clearly would enhance the likely hood that someone would commit suicide is pretty BAD if you ask me. Also look at how Leo treats and views women as evidenced by the countless posts in the dating section forum. Leo has no integrity when it comes to dating and women, and yet he continuously gives advice to young men about "conscious relating" lol, and if your goal is form healthy relationships with women then Leo is doing a huge disservice. To be honest I could go way harder, but my main point is that this forum is full of hypocrites who demonize Tate and give their guru a pass. But i've said enough penetrating things about Leo for now. Asks yourselves if we could see Leo's history in dating and how he functioned in business what would we see? Is it possible Leo has skeletons in his closet too? I'm sure anyone with any imagination can imagine some of the shady stuff that Leo's done in his life, he just never triggered the wrong people for it to backlash onto him.

My point is he and virtually everyone here criticizing Tate is a hypocrite. I can pretty easily demonstrate how Leo is as bad or worse then Tate in many of the same metrics that are being used to demonize Tate. @zurew Lol nice cope bud. Nice integrity there when push comes to shove you can't even back up what you say.

Link me some posts where you display comparable levels of criticism and demonization of Leo as you have on Tate.

Replace Tate with Leo and see that this applies to him as well. And notice how much energy you spent demonizing and criticizing Tate on the forum and how you've been mute about Leo. Then look in the mirror and acknowledge you're a hypocrite

Leo displays gross negligence in how he shares his "wisdom" to his audience of suicidal schizos and autistics. Bruh You don't understand his advice or depression at all. Taking action regardless of how you feel in the moment is one of the best ways to deal with someone if they depressed. Take a depressed person and let them follow around Andrew Tate for a month and they will improve. Take that same person and make them follow around Leo and they'll either be dead or in a mental hospital.

Leo is probably 10x more toxic than Tate. The fact that Tate is demonized and Leo is given a pass is evidence of the sheepishness and hypocrisy of this forum. How many suicides can we link unambiguously to Tate's carelessness?

https://hridaya-yoga.com/activities/49-day-retreat/ 49 day retreat in Mexico. Looks pretty awesome. I will do likely do this after visiting Asia and India. So maybe Fall 2024

@Thittato Sounds good, wish you well

I've done 3 1-hour meditations today. I feel pretty calm and i'm happy I really got into meditation today, but 3 hours isn't enough to penetrate deeply into the knots. I'm going to do another few hours today, so we'll see what 5 hours is like, but it may be that the 1 hour duration isn't enough. The technique is basically do-nothing. I just and let my attention rest naturally on the present moment. There seems a lot of attention around the sense of knowing my direct experience. A quote that I liked while sitting was "Know thy Self". The practice of sitting and knowing only direct experience with no effort. It's going to be interesting to see if meditation is sufficient to resolve the knots, or if something else is needed alongside it. I have a theory that psychidelics may be as necessary as food and water to live to our potential, but the 10 day vipassana retreat felt quite psychidelic for me at times so that remains to be seen. I will incorporate some long sits, 2 hours+, and then i'll have a better sense of how these meditations work for me.

@something_else You can pm if you want to go into my view. As for the rest good luck, i do not envy any of you.

@something_else You have no idea what you're talking about Mate. But feel free to do you.

@Consept I guess my issue is the hypocrisy from the forum when it comes to Tate. If someone wants to say Leo is a healthy role model but Tate is toxic then I can't really take you seriously. Tate may be a net negative on society but i don't know, it depends on who else is filling that void and who else these people are listening to. And i'm the wrong guy to ask about Hitler, because I don't know much about him, but if you're seriously into the truth and being great then I would say its a no brainer to understand and integrate and love Hitler too

It's weird how so many people turn into histrionics at the mere utterance of Tate's name. Very weird

@Thought Art Because he embodies some awesome masculine qualities that I admire. The better question is why are "spiritual" people demonizing and judging someone. "Absorb what is useful. Discard what is useless. Add what is uniquely your own"- Bruce Lee

Tate's still a G. Love that guy

I did two 1-hour meditations today. Basically do nothing, or knowing consciousness. I feel much more present and calm, and there was some subtle joy building which was nice. But I felt myself getting distracted and sleepy, and it seems like 1 hour sits are not nearly enough to really release these knots of tension in my being. I'm not sure if I should be trying for longer sits like 2-4 hours, or more 1 hour sits, but in any case this seems to be the clearest path forwards so it's just a matter of keeping it up. The path seems to be to just meditate all day until I get some creative insights that really inspire me, or I release enough of these knots of tension where returning to life seems like it would be fun and enjoyable.

@asifarahim I will likely exhaust the path i'm on before turning to Islam. What's your take on OSHO now? He wasn't a muslim, do you still consider him a Buddha? And I got the Kriya Yoga book from Leo's booklist, what technique should I do if I want to reduce the tensions and sufferings I feel in the third eye chakra.