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@Carl-Richard I'm pointing out why we have a disagreement. You were on the path to truth and then you abandoned it because you couldn't handle it. If you valued the truth my prediction is you wouldn't have such weak arguments about nick Fuentes. Dishonesty will cloud your perception at every turn. Can you at least provide some concrete evidence of what is so problematic about what he says. That way we can have some semblance of a productive dialogue. Nick said x, or here nick is being shady, etc. We can use the SPLC article, what specific points in that article are sufficient to prove he's evil/bad

@Carl-Richard And actually you don't know what death and egolessnes are. If you really knew you wouldn't be avoiding the truth at every turn

@Carl-Richard My point is the reason we can't find common ground is because you fundamentally don't value truth. When people speak about ego death it's hard because I can't know what you mean. I've had psychidelic trips where it was clear I'm not a human in the way I thought, and I realized when you fully surrender it's all good and pure bliss At this point the path is unfolding on it's own for me, I can't really stop the process nor would i want to. Maybe because I know it's all good that's why I don't have the same aversion to the truth idk.

Yeah, you value dishonesty over the truth. Hence why you gave up spirituality. "The truth is too scary so I'm going to go back to a dishonest life because I can't handle it". - This is the core of why we cannot find common ground.

Hopefully Destiny keeps doing more streams with Nick so this kind of reactionary demonization will be less common. You don't really know anything about the guy, other than what dishonest destiny has spewed about him, and yet you are so confident in smearing the guy

It's because you're completely close minded to the word nazi. I bet the truth about who the Nazi's were has been white washed by history, and the reality is much different than what we've been brain washed to believe. But I don't know for certain at this point, it's hard to find sources on this stuff. I am not worried because I am a genuine truth seeker. I trust my intuition about what's real, and at this point my intuition has pointed me towards Nick Fuentes. I think the guy has likely been unfairly demonized. My intuition also pointed me towards Vipassana retreats and spending extended time in ashrams and in silent contemplation. 99% of people who call Nick a nazi and demonize him are unconscious, so that makes me skeptical right away. The same reason you gave up spirituality because you fear the experience of losing control is the same reason you can't see this issue clearly. Fundamental dishonesty.

@Carl-Richard You have to give me some actual evidence of any these jew killing claims. Where does he say he wants to kill jews for just being jews? ANYTHING. No I see no value in that. But that's not in the same universe as what i've seen form Nick. The worst thing you can say so far is he questions the traditional narratives around the holocaust and he's anti zionist. And he made a provocative joke about killing Jews, but then again destiny said nig*** when he was making a chain saw noise so if we want to read into jokes we can do that. I think until you are outside of an environment where truth=social suicide you can never engage in good faith on these topics.

See you are completely close minded to anything related to Nazism. That's why you can't have the conversation in good faith. Nothing is purely good or bad. Nazis are not pure evil. There is a reason they got so much power and had so much support. I'm not saying I fully understand it, but I am at least open minded enough to not dismiss something without understanding it. As long as you are in environment where being open to the truth can be demonized you'll never be able to have these kinds of conversations in a productive way. I think Nick is much smarter and more conscious than Destiny. Ask yourself who is more at peace? Nick or Destiny.

Okay then give me evidence of what sounds are problematic, or what smells I should have already smelled. Dude your arguments are so weak. Someone could use nazi rhetoric in a very limited way because they know its provocative. I'm not saying he's definitely not a nazi, but your argument that he is a nazi is weak. It makes sense to question stuff like the traditional narrative of the holocaust too. What are the odds the main stream story is actually the truth about what happened. Seems very unlikely. According to your view if you even question the holocaust you are essentially a nazi and should be dismissed.

@Carl-Richard What would happen if you went to your professors or peers at University and said I'm open minded towards this guy Nick Fuentes, and then you showed them a video?

I'm asking for any evidence, it doesn't have to be explicit. But we aren't getting anywhere. I think if you open your mind and listen to Nick without prejudice you will see all your points are nonsense.

Any evidence? In the video linked Nick called out Destint for saying claiming that Nick wanted to genocide Jews. Then Destiny obfuscated and backtracked like a coward My guess is that if you opened your mind to Nick Fuentes then you would be ostracized by people in University. So it makes sense why you can't engage in good faith on the topic

The more I listen to Nick Fuentes the more I start to think he's smarter and wiser than Destiny.

What do you think of what Nick Said from the Genocide/Holocaust section? It seems like he's making more sense than Destiny over that short span. 01:04:10 - Nick Fuentes: Genocide 01:11:15 - Nick Fuentes: Holocaust

I'm just speculating. My position is I don't know whether Nick Fuentes is the demond he's been made out to be. If your position is idk if Nick is good or bad then we have no issue. But you are making the claim Nick Fuentes is dangerous/problematic/etc so i'm asking for evidence. I haven't looked into the Zionist conspiracies, but I think the position is that there is a group of Jewish billionares/politicians who run have disproportionate control over world governments and media and so they influence the world in a way that elevates Jews/Zionism. Like Jews orchestrated 9-11 so the USA could have a pretense to invade the middle east to destabilize the region, which enhances the relative survival value of Israel. Not saying this is true, but I'm just trying to lay out the case to the best of my knowledge

Then why do people like @Carl-Richard jump to the conclusion that he wants to murder all Jews? I'm asking for specific evidence of his most egregious claims. Or evidence of some micro behaviors that indicate some more sinister intentions. At this point I'm genuinely curious to know the truth about Nick Fuentes. When he makes a jew in the oven joke there are multiple explanations. It could be a dog whistle to his fans who genuinely want to finish what the Nazi's started. Or it could be marketing ploy to expand his audience through shock and awe.

But he could acting provocative because he knows it will stir up controversy so he can attract more attention to his ideology. You still haven't provided concrete evidence of anything you're saying. You know Nick Fuentes actually is going to deliver us to heaven. And don't ask about how I know this, let's just keep talking as if this is the truth because i said it.

I get a migraine and there's incredible pain in my head, plus some nausea. I end up bouncing back and forth between gritting my teeth through the suffering or surrendering a bit, which leads to more suffering and so I stop surrendering. I haven't tripped in a while, and I think if I do a retreat on a solo retreat i'll have more positive experiences than doing it while living with my parents.

According to this TYT report Nick Fuentes was his high school class president and gave the speech at their graduation. That's pretty surprising.

Cool, thanks. I've had a few trips where I felt profound healing, but I had many more trips where i get stuck with pain so it's always interesting to hear how other people overcome it. Nice report, good luck.

@Illusory Self I would say try to book a mini retreat or vacation out of the city to get away from your addictions, bad habits, etc. Even like a weekend nature retreat or something could be really powerful. My best psychidelic experiences have come when I already had some momentum with positive habits. When I do them when I'm in a rut I just end up suffering, but even that has value so regardless of what I wrote it may still be helpful to do a trip.

I want any evidence. So far you just have the connections you made in your own brain with nothing Nick has said. I am not saying with certainty that he isn't the things you are accusing him of being. I just want a coherent argument with evidence. I do see an issue with him, but I'm trying to get a clear picture of what he believes and why he believes it. But when everyone who argues about him approaches the conservation in bad faith with prejudice it's harder than it needs to be. Your second state is complete nonsense. I could say I want to murder a jewish pedophile who molested my daughter and by your logic i'd be someone you completely disregard. If he's talking about killing Jews that are part of a Zionist world order that's a different ball game than someone who wants to finish what the Nazi's in Germany started.

@Naol What was the transition like from experiencing pain to feeling love?

You made an incredible claim and when pressed provided no real evidence. I know you're not trolling me so i don't see the point of going down this rabbit hole with you. Can you provide evidence of him saying he wants to actually murder any Jews?