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@Preety_India There's a stigma against weak men who would allow themselves to be abused by woman. Society doesn't feel sorry for stigmatized groups like this. It's similar to why people don't care about the abuse that occurs between prisoners in the justice system. I would look twice at a guy who got abused by his partner as a man.

@Consept In your view, what is the end game of a successful, socioeconomically, 30+ plus woman who expects a man of equal value but is struggling to find a partner. I find it hard to believe a person can just drop their standards dramatically over a short period and be content, but the i don't know how else these woman will partners I think it would be really interesting to see an entire generation of woman who end up finding partners that are submissive and dependent on them, and you have a complete reversal of gender roles in this area haha

But if you value a LTR and a family then you have to ensure that you have develop those aspects that will contribute to securing a successful LTR and family. As a man I'm very conscious of what it will take to create a successful family and have a good partner. Virtually everything in my life is built around that eventual goal. I think as woman embark on early life path's that have historically been occupied solely by men they are being a fed a message that fails to account for the fact that many, if not most, modern woman want a valuable partner for a relationship and family but when you start talking about what that will require of woman, men get accused of being sexist, msygonistic, woman hating etc

My advice for a woman who wants a high quality partner is to focus on developing those traits that high quality men find desirable. I'm not saying a woman shouldn't develop herself, i just don't think that having a successful career and being success oriented in a conventional sense is a key part of development. I like to think of this stuff in terms of how I'd teach my daughter one day, and I would not tell them that their career is what's necessary to have a fulfilling life when they grow up. If a woman values a LTR and a family I would hope they don't follow what you're saying

@Preety_India It's the only metric we have to go on about men's preference. Maybe men here are the exceptions and there's an entire population of high quality men who want successful, career driven woman. But i doubt it.

Almost all the men on this thread have said the same thing about what they value, and no one said they value a woman's career highly. But no man here is saying they value this in a partner. I think it's woman who are giving the misleading advice in this thread tbh

@Consept @Emerald What is the definition of a compatible partner to woman? If someone has moderate standards it seems inescapable that there will be a shortage. I also don't think that men being intimated by a womans success affects dating to the same degree as a woman overvaluing her own success and then claiming men are intimated to comfort themselves

There are many woman in my family who have this dynamic with their partners. I think it can work if the man is happy in the role of a dependent/child and the woman is happy being in control.

@Preety_India I just used it as example because it illustrates the problem and she's a recognizable person so it's more entertaining

This is a great video that illustrates some of the stuff we've been talking about

But for many women they could be very attractive to men they value, but rather than focus their attention on that, they instead focus on developing their careers thinking men will value it when they are ready to seek a partner

@modmyth Thanks for your input much appreciated. @modmyth do you have any thoughts on this phenomena? Do you have any friends or peers etc who are in this situation?

@Consept This is a great explanation of the phenomena thanks man

Yeah i agree

Or they make you feel safe, and you feel good in their presence. And then once they get what they want they take off the mask

This is a great point. People use terms by they don't even have a clear understanding of the meaning of the words

@modmyth What are your thoughts on this topic?

How do you know this?

Are you financially self sufficient?

Do you have any concerns about waiting too long and not being able to find a compatible partner after focusing on your own career? Would you be content being single and successful and not having a family?

@soos_mite_ah That's interesting. I would be very curious what goes into those stats. Isn't that circumstance the nightmare scenario for many woman?

I don't think this is true. I think it's much harder for a successful woman to find a suitable partner compared to a successful man. You are free to believe whatever you want, but just because someone sais something that comforts you doesn't mean it's true or helpful in the long run

That's not incorrect though. I think there are many modern woman who find themselves in a situation, mid 30's or higher, where they spent so much time focusing on their career and now that they wish to pursue relationships and a family they have a very limited pool of partners to choose form. You are a speaking to a population of men that is very tiny. How many men would be compatible for a highly successful career oriented woman who desires a man of similar socio-economic value?

@Forestluv Yeah it all depends on what people value. I would value children very highly others won't

@Consept Great point. Thank you If an attractive woman was happy with me living at home and taking care of kids and I was free to do whatever I want and spend however that would be cool haha