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@Valwyndir If you can heal all Leo's health issues, can you regrow your own hair with awareness?

@Consept This is a more insidious dynamic than it appears. You have a situation where people refuse to hear the truth, and if you try to bring it up you get labeled and chastised, and so people just leave the situation alone and you end with group think. Meanwhile the clock ticks and the rest of world will leave people to their own doom

My current go to non-dual master. He has an entertaining personality too. Best quote. I'm a sage... not a saint. That's exactly how I feel about myself. Fuck people who are against me

@Rilles Yeah that's a great idea

No, there are many factors that go into wanting a kid. As far as wanting a child in the face of overpopulation, I am confident that If i have a child they will be a net positive for humanity

I want a child who is like me. I also want my children to have the best possible life and genetics influence a child's life to a decent degree. I have some advantages in life that I can't take credit for but i am thankful, granted the reverse is also true. Also the argument about not adding a person because of the population is kind of misleading. If we should be conscious of population dynamics with having kids then we should be putting guys like Leo and Elon musk in breeding programs

I'm just wondering, I'm not claiming it is a statement of fact. I think it's commonly seen as unusual. Yeah maybe if someone dedicated their life to a higher cause. But then again there are many great people in history dedicated to causes greater than themselves who also have children.

@intotheblack I think Leo will admit he has psychological trauma

@Preety_India There's a stigma against weak men who would allow themselves to be abused by woman. Society doesn't feel sorry for stigmatized groups like this. It's similar to why people don't care about the abuse that occurs between prisoners in the justice system. I would look twice at a guy who got abused by his partner as a man.

@Consept In your view, what is the end game of a successful, socioeconomically, 30+ plus woman who expects a man of equal value but is struggling to find a partner. I find it hard to believe a person can just drop their standards dramatically over a short period and be content, but the i don't know how else these woman will partners I think it would be really interesting to see an entire generation of woman who end up finding partners that are submissive and dependent on them, and you have a complete reversal of gender roles in this area haha

But if you value a LTR and a family then you have to ensure that you have develop those aspects that will contribute to securing a successful LTR and family. As a man I'm very conscious of what it will take to create a successful family and have a good partner. Virtually everything in my life is built around that eventual goal. I think as woman embark on early life path's that have historically been occupied solely by men they are being a fed a message that fails to account for the fact that many, if not most, modern woman want a valuable partner for a relationship and family but when you start talking about what that will require of woman, men get accused of being sexist, msygonistic, woman hating etc

My advice for a woman who wants a high quality partner is to focus on developing those traits that high quality men find desirable. I'm not saying a woman shouldn't develop herself, i just don't think that having a successful career and being success oriented in a conventional sense is a key part of development. I like to think of this stuff in terms of how I'd teach my daughter one day, and I would not tell them that their career is what's necessary to have a fulfilling life when they grow up. If a woman values a LTR and a family I would hope they don't follow what you're saying

@Preety_India It's the only metric we have to go on about men's preference. Maybe men here are the exceptions and there's an entire population of high quality men who want successful, career driven woman. But i doubt it.

Almost all the men on this thread have said the same thing about what they value, and no one said they value a woman's career highly. But no man here is saying they value this in a partner. I think it's woman who are giving the misleading advice in this thread tbh

@Consept @Emerald What is the definition of a compatible partner to woman? If someone has moderate standards it seems inescapable that there will be a shortage. I also don't think that men being intimated by a womans success affects dating to the same degree as a woman overvaluing her own success and then claiming men are intimated to comfort themselves

There are many woman in my family who have this dynamic with their partners. I think it can work if the man is happy in the role of a dependent/child and the woman is happy being in control.

@Preety_India I just used it as example because it illustrates the problem and she's a recognizable person so it's more entertaining

This is a great video that illustrates some of the stuff we've been talking about

But for many women they could be very attractive to men they value, but rather than focus their attention on that, they instead focus on developing their careers thinking men will value it when they are ready to seek a partner

@modmyth Thanks for your input much appreciated. @modmyth do you have any thoughts on this phenomena? Do you have any friends or peers etc who are in this situation?

@Consept This is a great explanation of the phenomena thanks man

Yeah i agree

Or they make you feel safe, and you feel good in their presence. And then once they get what they want they take off the mask

This is a great point. People use terms by they don't even have a clear understanding of the meaning of the words

@modmyth What are your thoughts on this topic?