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Yeah I've been thinking about this. I'm 25 and I feel a sense of urgency to get my life together so I can find someone to fit my ideals

@Surfingthewave I know it's a long thread but do you have any thoughts?

@Zeroguy Thanks. Yeah I know I have to go grow up, i'm working on it. Yeah I apply to that to life, i trust my own sense I assume i'm right and other people are wrong unless they are very persuasive

@intotheblack Would you say most woman in your life support you for not being very career driven? Or is there a stigma the other way now, where woman are expected to be career focused.

@intotheblack @Preety_India I understand that, that wasn't really my point.

Haha when men say this kind of stuff I bet they get shamed and shouted down by people in their lives all the time. Feel bad for suckers like that. If anyone, male or female, doesn't understand this stuff you have lots to learn

You're lucky. If your goal is to find a high value partner and have a family you are way better off than if you were working 80 hours a week as a successful profession trying to balance life. Some woman bury there heads in work from 22-30, and when they look up they want a family and look around to see that their options are severely limited. The most valuable thing they have is their career, and when men don't care you're fucked

Yeah, having a career isn't inherently negative, no one is saying that. And it's not about manipulating woman either, if the woman is the mother of your child, how you treat her is going to affect how your child turns out. If you love your children you aren't going to manipulate the person they are closest too. The problem occurs because successful woman tend to have many masculine traits, because you need these traits to compete and be successful. But when it comes to relationships with men, men don't like masculine woman. Also, if a woman is spending 60+ hours a week on her career, how much time is there for you and the family, you have to be a master of time management. There's also the potential for your wife to work a demanding career later in life when the kids are grown up. It's not about the type of career tbh. If you are a very successful instructor you will likely put in the same blood, sweat and tears as someone who built a construction company. It's what it requires of woman to be so successful that is the issue. How can you be raised/learn to be a great partner and attract high quality man, and have the ability and talent to run successful companies. All of men's masculine traits that woman find attractive favor successin business, it's not like we have to learn an entire new identity to attract woman. It's not a problem of her making more money. That becomes an issue in general when woman expect the men to value their income, and you have a 4/10 woman who makes 200k expecting to land a 9/10 man, and all her friends cheer her on, but in reality most man value looks and a guy like that won't date a 4. Yeah most people in my life are the same way. But i think when raising kids it's important to have a partner be at home for the formative years. I have an aunt who's a lawyer and she still works because of the desire to be an independent woman etc etc, and I know she feels guilty about leaving her kids with a nanny, and her husband makes 4 times what she makes and she doesn't even have to work. That's the kind of thing I would be skeptical of, like I understand if you had to work and it made financial sense, but some people do it because of pure ego.

Because this is mostly an intellectual exercise and I don't know if that person even exists. I definitely have high standards and I hope I can find someone who lives up, if not then i'll adjust.

Lots of people here are weak and not good competitiors. Canada is very soft and sheltered, it's one reason why first generation immigrants can become successful so easily

@Zeroguy I know I appreciate it. Not gonna lie it hurt a bit haha I understand. If it's about survival why does it matter?

Haha i was just giving a random example, I could be wrong about all that its just speculation for the most part.

That's because lots of PhD's and Doctors are insecure intellectuals and have no wisdom. People assume that if you're a PhD or a Doctor you are an elite human being, it's such a joke. Yeah I am very picky. I am young and most of this is just in my head, but i'm realistic. If I don't meet someone when I'm actively looking for a partner I will drop standards like these very quickly depending on who I meet

Yeah I was thinking her family is wealthy, or she has a very low demand high income career. And no i don't think that wealthy families necessarily want their children to have very successful careers to add to the wealth. Once you have enough money it's no longer just about money and you begin to value other things. I'm assuming there are many rich families where the parents want their kids to focus on something other than a career because they have the freedom. Imagine a father who worked his entire life to build a fortune. He may want his kids to enjoy it

Yup agree 100%. I would prefer an educated, wealthy etc partner but it's not a deal breaker in the way you described above. Meanwhile, if I wasn't very attracted to a girl physically and she didn't have a well developed feminine part too herself there would be 0 chance. Nothing else matters unless those criteria are met

@diamondpenguin Woman are not stupid. Look around, life is still about survival. If a woman can secure millions for herself and her children, she is willing overlook a lot of stuff. Also that lack of love thing is so misleading. You could say everything and anything fails because of a lack of love and you'd be partially right. Anywhere there is a problem you can say the cause is a lack of love

Yeah this has been something I thought about, especially for high value girls. I'd imagine that a very attractive girl was likely very attractive for most of her dating life so it would make sense that she would end up with someone, and said person would likely have a strong incentive to maintain the relationship. I wonder how many incredibly desirable woman don't make it past 18 years old. That limits the supply quite bit a think. Do you think that woman's drive to find a higher value man than herself is intrinsic/biological? I wonder how many 30+ year old very successful woman can just suddenly drop their standards and accept that men of equal value are making 50-60k a year and they would be fortunate to be with someone like that. I don't think it's limited to Vancouver, but i bet it's enhanced by the stuff you talk about above, anti-social tendencies etc. I have an uncle in hs mid 30's who has been seeking a partner for a few years and I heard the Vancouver dating market can be very difficult. But i've heard from a lot his friends that Vancouver has some of the best looking woman on the west coast. All the silicon valley nerds come to Vancouver for dating haha

@diamondpenguin Do you have a relationship filled with love? Do you have "Ego fumes"?

@diamondpenguin Haha

He's not taking anything out of context. He has provided reasons and details in every post. I think you're are triggered by what he's claiming and so you want to denigrate his argument style

@Valwyndir claimed he could easily cure baldness with awareness. I'm skeptical because he clearly has a receding hairline and he got a hair transplant, why would a person who can cure baldness naturally require a hair transplant. Do you want to walk back the claim or can you defend it?

@Valwyndir Why did you get a hair transplant if you have the ability re grow your hair? And your hair isn't regrown you're still balding

Yeah I was meditating for a few years before I tried psychidelics on my own and It propelled me to spaces I didn't even know were possible. In hindsite I could have reached that same space without them, but at the time, and even now, I have no way of approaching that heightened mental space without psychs. Most people have no idea what they are missing with psychs. It's all great in theory that you don't need psychs. Even just weed greatly enhances my meditation practice

@mandyjw Have you ever taken psychidelics since starting your spiritual path?

Most men who posted on this thread said they don't really care about a woman's success. When it comes to valuing a partner a woman's success is low in on the totem pole. Let me ask you. If you met a girl who was attractive, feminine, kind, submissive, etc but she worked as a server making minimum wage would that be a deal breaker? For most men I'm assuming they wouldn't care at all. If a woman has kids it is likely her success will take a hit, and many men end up being responsible for most of the bills anyway, so a woman's income when they first meet isn't super important. As far as education and intelligence as a proxy for success, I agree most men wouldn't want some girl who reads at a 5th grade level or something like that. This issue is woman want to dating someone who they percieve as equal or greater value than them. So when woman become financially successful they want men of at least their socioeonomioc status and lifestyle. But men don't value financial success in woman the way woman value it in men so you have a mismatch dynamic. A woman can earn 200k a year and will refuse to settle for men earning like 60k, majority of men, but if she's a 5/10 in looks she's going to have a really hard time.