Parththakkar12

@Forestluv Do you understand though how a false accusation could totally shatter your confidence with women? For no fault of your own? How this could easily create misogyny, in fact? The very thing you're trying to save women from by giving them the right to falsely accuse? It's unbelievable to me that we haven't even discussed the false accuser's accountability on this yet. A FALSE ACCUSATION IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE ACCUSED!! I want you to repeat that 5 times until you get it. While you're at it, contemplate whose fault it really is.

The fact that you're having to say this stuff is appalling. I want you to get how fucked up this is. This isn't something only the falsely accused can avoid. That's why having a collective conversation about this is very important.

You've been fortunate enough to have that experience. I've been through some really ruthless shit with the system. You can feel how everyone's against you and how everyone is using under-handed tactics to fuck you over, because the system said so. Even when the truth is on your side. Especially if you have some vindictive woman in a position of power on the sexual harassment committee, oh boy. It's not that I suck with women or something. I've had plenty of good experiences with plenty of women! The point is, this is not coming from a misogynistic place. The way it feels with the system though is that it's waiting for one slip-up from your side to fuck you over. Even if you don't slip up, even if all the evidence is on your side, they will do whatever is in their best-interests to protect their image. Not for justice or some high-consciousness ideal like truth or order or something, they'll do whatever saves their ass!

Why are we telling men how to protect themselves against being falsely accused instead of telling women to not falsely accuse? How is it my fault if you falsely accuse me? Why should it be my fault all the fucking time, whatever you do? Point your finger at the false accuser. Put the blame where it belongs. Then come talk to me about this. Most men in the system are fucking pussy-ass bitches for not looking at the reality and trying to appease the woman. Excuse my language, but this is how I actually feel about them. They're getting manipulated by a woman and they cave.

@Forestluv And who decides what's 'appropriate'? Women? The system? I think it's women. One false move and you're dead. Again, it's other people holding you to a standard of what's 'appropriate' and you have no say whatsoever. Also, why should someone be indoctrinated by your definition of 'appropriate'? Who are you to tell them what's 'appropriate' or not? In a false accusation, there is no victim. There is a false victim. This false victim shows the biases of the system and how it seeks to hold men back!

Of course! It's always the guy to blame!! Al-fucking-ways. Look at the ruthlessness of your own reactions. Do you see how hard it is for a falsely accused guy in the world? Nobody believes you! Why do we never talk about holding the false accusers accountable? Do we see how biased the society is against men? We need to start treating women like the adults that they are for once.

When I say 'being a man', I mean going and flirting with a woman you're interested in. You go and flirt with the wrong woman, you're toast! And, the society will kill you for it. My experience says that what I'm saying is true.

The law isn't biased, but the society is. They want you dead if a woman says a word against you! If a woman gets raped in reality, everyone is on her side but if you get falsely accused, you are finished as a guy.

Stay silent about the unfairness of the laws and rules and how their agenda is to convict you if a woman says something against you. This totally represses men's masculinity across society! It makes men scared of being men.

A few cases are enough to keep the majority of men who feel the same way silent. Men are really scared to talk about this. I speak for a lot of guys on this issue.

I speak from experience, son!

Man bad, woman good. We all know that by now! We don't need a reminder of it.

When you are falsely accused, all evidence flies out the window. The system is hell-bent on destroying your life if you are a guy! We keep making the assumption that evidence is objectively considered in rape accusations. It's not! It's very easy for a woman to ruin a man's life in today's date. The system literally just has it out for the accused in that situation, not because there is any base to the accusation, but because the system has an ass to cover. Because, at the end of the day, we don't care about the truth. We care about making everyone happy in the moment, so that all hell doesn't break loose. This is the situation, even though we are living in a patriarchy. Imagine how bad it would've gotten if we lived in a matriarchy! Oops. I said something that's too true. I'm going to get a ban-hammer now or I'm going to get warning-points now. Society ain't ready for the truth, man!

Guys can answer too.

This applies only for me - My decision on whether I'm going to invest my energy sexually pursuing a woman very much depends on me being able to trust her with my vulnerability and me being able to integrate her as part of my life. Anyways, could be different for other guys. What I think is happening is that she's trying to clarify a sorta mixed-message that women give to men on this issue and what it means. I personally have never been confused about this so I don't relate to being confused about it. But I'm sure it must confuse guys who use vulnerability to attract women! In short, it probably applies to a wider demographic of guys that doesn't include me. I don't relate to receiving a 'mixed message from women' on this issue and being confused by it. Helpful anyways!

It came across as not taking responsibility for the man's vulnerability and making everything only about your own safety and your own perceptions of unsafety. I mean, yeah, sure, I have a drive to protect a woman and stuff, but not at the expense of my vulnerability. This leaves the door wide open for apologism for emotional neglect in the relationship. Very unsafe from the male perspective. I would not touch that relationship with a ten-foot pole. Also, we're treating this as if it's a choice, like men are asking you 'Should we cry or not?' as if it's a choice that we get to make. It's not. I'm going to let my vulnerability express itself when it needs to. If she feels unsafe, I'm going to next her. If you can't be there with me when I need you to, I have no reason to continue doing this. That would be a very hard deal-breaker for me, inability to integrate my vulnerability in the relationship.

I personally have no place in my life for a woman who I can't be vulnerable with. That's the point of having a relationship! Give me one reason to have a relationship or to commit to a woman if I can't even be vulnerable with her.

I'd put him at Tier-2. He has a lot of Orange, Yellow, Turquoise in him.

Do you know what this tells me? This tells me that the system is too hierarchical. The problem isn't some individual or some group of people, the problem is the system. The system is too top-down, too hierarchical, which is why the people feel like they have no say in what happens in the government. What's needed is that we need to create a holarchical system that's more pragmatic and that shows better results than the hierarchical system currently there. If we're able to do that and compete against the current hierarchies, then we can transition into a world where the individual common person will have a lot more power! Hint - World government is NOT it. Definitely not as the WEF had said, definitely not some sort of technocratic control-structure that will 'absolve you of all property-responsibilities'. The goal is to become more responsible, not less responsible and more dependent on the system like that. The system is created by you, not the other way around!

They call it a 'symbol of patriarchal oppression' because the point of it is to fully cover a woman and to not show her figure, her hair, basically to not have her sex-appeal show when she leaves the house. Especially the part about 'hiding your hair because it attracts male attention' is particularly egregious to this specific tradition. It's a religious garb, which is why it doesn't generally come in different colors and shapes and sizes. Generally, women of one community will wear a hijab of only one color, say black, or violet, or some really dull and dark and boring color with low-quality cloth. No embroidery, even. Full sleeves. Wtf is this shit?! That's what I used to think when I first learned about it.

My mom got the vaccine. She got pretty ill for days when she got it! I was kinda scared for her, to tell you the truth.

It is absolutely possible. From what I've seen, a woman's attractiveness level has a lot more to do with how she presents herself and how she dresses than her actual body-type. How revealing is her dress? How well-fitted is it, so to speak? Is her hair straightened or not?

It's Stage Blue conservative tradition. That's all I know really, is that it's traditional and foundational to their culture. In other cultures, it's traditionally seen as bad or immoral to own a gun, like 'Why do you have a gun? Who do you plan to shoot?' etc. questions will be raised.

If you had this expectation from them, that means you weren't helping them because it felt good to you, you were doing it as part of a transaction. If you need a transaction to help someone, if you're going to resent them if they don't reciprocate, that means that you didn't want to help them to begin with! That was the point of my answer - find a way to meet their actual needs. They will remember that. Then, if they don't reciprocate when you need them, you can't make someone reciprocate, but you can find someone else who will. You'll have such people if you know how to meet their needs! You'll feel a lot more secure relative to betrayal from one person.