BlessedLion

Hmm, strangely i am leaning towards respect. Maybe i feel like love is just a given- but i think as a man having a womans deep respect is more valuable than love because sometimes love is founded on nothing of value.

Never understood how people do like 30-50 takes for one video, to me that is nuts and way too performative

It's quite beautiful in that sense

I think this is why so many women go through a phase of dating toxic "bad boy" type guys who just string them along for an emotional rollercoaster that they know is bad for them but they go on because it is exciting. Quite similar to drug addicts these women are addicted to the emotional stimulation and invalidation these men make them feel. I see it time and time again

For sure, I think Sweden in general is a very Stage Green society so that makes sense. What would crush it in Los Angeles would likely fail hard in Stockholm, timeless principles aside. Also, I've heard the dating culture and male/female dynamics are different

I think out of everything i studied his material is the most satisfying and engaging, he integrates evolutionary psychology and subconscious communication in a very powerful way.

you have to really understand what he's getting at when he says something like that. Without DeAngelo's foundation a lot of shit he says sounds crazy. Basically he is going after people pleasing behavior, being too agreeable and quick to appease. There is power in that. It communicates something subconsciously But i also see where he overdoes it, and trying to follow his blueprint can turn you into a bit of an asshole

Absolutely, and that's a solid nuance. I think there are like 2 layers of attraction, one is the developmental/consciousness layer another is a more "timeless" attraction. Where a woman who is in Stage Red but is super in touch with her femininity, seductress energy and is just sexy.... yeah a Stage Green dude will go for that. Another example is John Smith & Pocohauntus, like they were on different levels of development (Purple and Blue) but still had hot sex. Likewise a Stage Orange "Wall street jock" (idk whatever is hot) will still be able to attract a Stage Green hippie (maybe) I do think men are maybe more vulnerable to being attracted regardless of developmental levels whereas women likely fall more into their own developmental levels. Bc men are more attracted to the physical and energetic and women are more attracted to the personality, mind, and behaviors.

It's not though, it teaches you very important and essential skills of dealing with women and people in general. It depends entirely on who is doing, how they are doing it and why they are doing, but shaming men for going out and meeting, talking to and fucking women is not the way. I agree if you consume too much pick up material especially the mainstream stuff, it will kill your ability to naturally just attract and be yourself, but also a lot of guys need serious help just with the basic and foundational dating skills or they will remain virgins

Absolutely. This is an important nuance, and does apply to what I was saying about developmental levels of attraction. Most Pick up material is tailored to attracting Stage Orange women, but if you try that shit with Stage Green women they will almost immediately reject it. I have spent a lot of time in both types of communities, and this distinction is very fascinating. So yeah if you want a Stage Green or above woman, you have to play a different game, they are more intelligent and can see through the game-playing and posturing easier. Which is why i think the ultimate game is just develop yourself, have a life purpose, be strong, and have a strong foundation around you, then you naturally act confident and high status and loving because you just are.

Yeah just shared it above, it's fucking solid ^ Interesting about Todd, I have tried some of his stuff and his courses but it never really landed deeply for me. It sounds interesting though. Maybe i'll revisit it

Considering that modern society is just a scratch on the surface of the human timeline, this makes sense. This type of attraction is actually 99% of the subconcious interaction and evaluation. That's why women can rationally know "he is a good provider, kind, caring, etc" but subconsciously want the lover archetype

Ah yeah, this is quite fascinating too, i think the book Red Queen touches on this as well. Some men fall into Provider category and others as Lovers and what's really crazy is that even a woman is with a provider mate she might cheat on him with the Lover mate while ovullating to pass on his genes, and something like 10% of people are not the offspring of their "fathers"

That's a solid point. I feel like the deep thinkers or creatives eventually tire out on this material. While it's fascinating it's only one component of reality and something like consciousness, metaphysics, awakening is far more fulfilling and meaningful. David DeAngelo is the only person i saw who took it to another level like that discussing the subconcious attraction. Check it out, this blew my fucking mind, don't overshare it though bc i think they are trying to wipe all his stuff from the internet:

Absolutely man, same. I find myself typically dating older women because i find maturity and depth so sexy. The other day i was with this really hot young Turkish girl but she was on her phone so much that i just left. I couldn't handle the lack of presence and shallowness even though things were headed towards sex.