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Ralston calling out Leo on this exact topic. I went to a Ralston retreat and have been following Leo for years so it’s interesting to watch this play out. Both have changed my life dramatically so it’s sad to see they can’t agree on this but I guess it makes sense too.

Sometimes I wonder what my life would be like if i had never come across meditation and the pursuit of enlightenment. Meditation has helped me grow in many ways and learn so much about myself and being, but sometimes i feel i am wasting my life chasing it too much. Yoga retreats, meditations retreats, books, youtube all on enlightenement and "healing". Do you guys ever feel the same. Would love to hear your benefits and cons of spiritual work. Mine are Benefits; More ccalm Cooler Grounded in myself More attractive to others More disciplined Sense of purpose More loving Less stress Less anxiety Less negativity More awe and wonder at life Cons; Lots of time spent trying to become enlightened Can be nuerotic about being the witness Disassociation sometimes and other scary spiritual eperiences like questioning my sanity and reality Money spent on retreats (don't mind this though) CONFUSION! The angst of not being enlightened and why do we have to struggle so much for it, seems like a sick game

I am on day 7 on retaining my seed, however, I have begun feeling a lot of excess energy and anxiety. Almost to the point of it making me restless. I am going to try and put this energy into exercise and meditation but my urges to masturbate are getting overwhelming. Any others here have experience with NoFap/Semen Retention? Is it worth it? I kinda miss porn haha, i know it is horrible for my mind, but would be lying if i said it isn't awesome, seeing any fantasy you could imagine live in front of you. My real goal is to be able to find a sex partner but i live a nomadic life, only spending a month tops in a place at a time which makes it hard to establish any lasting relationships. i also live in Central America/ South America mostly so there is a language barrier. All my friends back in the states have "fuck buddies" but to me it is more important to travel, but it would be nice to have. Pick up works pretty well while traveling but gets old having shallow one night stands. Maybe i can find a fellow nomadic female.

@Name i think it's obvious you are addicted to shit, it has clearly rotted your mind

ive been duked

@Kushu2000 you are clearly bitter, maybe awakening has not and will not occur, but let's drop that for a second. Through Leos videos and a TON of self work: -my anxiety is gone -i connect and sleep with tons of women -i never feel depressed -i have tons of energy (surf, gym, yoga, work all in one day) -i live in Bali and completely escaped the rat race -i live in a state of flow and ease -my emotions are calm -i am calm and cool -my diet is on point -no more bad habits -the ability to sit in meditation for hours -i have reached exactly who i have always wanted to be yesterday i cried in the ocean at the beauty of it all while sending my love to every being in the water. You tell me that is meaningless and that this work is a scam. Yeah okay, have fun bitching on the internet, maybe try to have an open mind and change your shitty attitude

I look around at examples of "Alpha-Males" in society and see guys like Connor McGregor, Pablo Escobar, Presidents, etc and think this certainly cannot be correct. I almost think of it terms of monkeys, like they are alpha on a very low conscious level, using violence, anger and fear to gain their positions. However, they still get to rep the power, money, not taking shit from anyone, and ultimately the women, the pick of the litter females. Today i went to feed some monkeys in thailand and there was one who was the alpha, he was fucking any female he wanted and got all the food. he was also the most relaxed and least fearful of all the monkeys, he wasn't worried about shit. I think about this in society, how does a Male be alpha without having to use fear anger and over-powering to do it? I want that position, the women, the money, the respect, but does it have to be done in such a low-conscious way? I know the typical spiritual answer is to "transcend" those desires, but that itsn't how i use spirtuality. I want to be in this world, accept my desires and live them out in the most badass way possible. That means fuck as many hot women as possible, travel, experience life, and basically fuck the world and life. I meditate a lot and do a ton of inner work and have come to this conclusion. I like being a man, l love my desires and ultimately i have to accept my monkey side that wants these things, maybe in the future ill get over it. Anyway, back to my point, what do you define as "alpha"? Is it just being the chill guy who is comfortable with himself? I think nature doesn't lie and if you are truly Alpha, you are fucking a lot of women. Excited to hear your guys thoughts

the way i see it, life is short, why not go all in and make it as intense as possible? An easy life is boring af. I do this consciousness work and it has made starting a biz and fucking girls even more exciting and valuable. Do it your way, it doens't have to be one for the other. You're young theres a ton of fun ways to integrate consciousness while still exploring your 20s like your peers, then when you turn 35 and life sucks for all your friends, you'll have a net of consciousness to fall onto

@Commodent Said it right I also am finding the more inner work i do, the less i care about this idea which used to mean so much to me. I'm not trying to brag. Currently i am 26, i work 3 hours a day and make 70K+/year. I work remotely so i travel constantly, i have romances and girlfirends all the time, i just had a 3sum with 2 brazilian girls, yesterday i decided fuck it and meditated all day in the sun , just to take a nap and then go for a run. i am not constantly blissed out but life is good, and i want it to stay this way. kids would rip all of this away from me, i'd no longer just be living for myself and i enjoy being selfish and having a ton of time to do my own shit. if i had kids the travel would stop, the sex would stop, the money and hence the stress would need to increase, id probably have to hang out with annoying ass other parents that i wouldn't like and would have to listen to their boring bullshit, and the kids, in todays society would be anxious depressed ungrateful shits who look at instagram all day. also there is a chance of one being retarded or having a serious mental condition or car crash or something. fuck it, life is too short, i choose 3 sums

@Apparition of Jack Thanks for your response, that is very thought-provoking and true. I like what you mentioned about the relationships, I've had many a times the drunk hook up and it is very shallow. I like to think that these things will fall into place as i continue my inner work and have seen a few of them actually do that in more conscious ways, good stuff... @LastThursday Very interesting, I have seen the classic scrape off from the Alpha by his friends as far as women go. I do question if it is something i really do want in life, seems stressful and it isn't something i want to get nuerotic about. @Shiva I love that! Interesting indeed how the "Alpha" is no longer just the physically strongest one, there is a lot more at play in human societies as we are more complex. Bill gates for example could probably be having nightly 3 ways with 20 yr old swedish chicks, but he is still at nature a Beta. Also, alphas are quite rare in societies, true alphas, which is why they lead groups of 100s. I think it isn't worth pursuing , and there are levels. Obviously don't get walked on , but no need to try and lead the whole group, that's just not me.

I notice a recurring theme in Leos videos that while unelightened you are basically always suffering sometimes at a very low level, but even if you are having sex or something you enjoy there is still some suffering there. But what about just being? Just sitting in a park looking around, feeling your breath and being mindful, is there still suffering there? It sure doesn't feel like it

Recently i have gotten into deep acceptances of the present moment, my awareness is taking in more and more as i meditate and heal more and i am able to accept it. When i do this with "negative" emotions and cravings, they simple dissapate, not always but sometimes. Is this the same as letting go, just noticing what is and accepting it? I don't want to confuse myself with trying to do the same thing Also, where does each stand on the scale of purification? As i accept many of my nuerotic tendencies and anxieties they seem to loose their strength over me, is this similar with letting go? or the exact same? I feel i am focusing too much on the wording for the same phenomenon

Thanks @Juan Cruz Giusto that's a deep insight, very true about the not caring.

@theking00 be as ridiculous as possible

Hi, I am working on mastering meditation and have probably logged in about 350 hours of sitting meditation over the last 2 years. I am on the track to get to 10,000 hours but am curious. Does it count towards mastery if i am just being mindful throughout the day, can i count that time towards the 10K hours? It is a bit difficult because it is not mastering something like boxing, where the time put into it is tangible. Meditation is in your head so technically if you are really aware and i am sure this would be increasing as you go longer, the hours a day get higher and higher -thanks

A couple weeks ago i posted about struggling with self-actualization, i was in a moment of anger, frustration and fear, and felt hopeless. So i felt obliged to write about how that flipped on its head. A few days after that i went and took some shrooms, this was a tough trip and after i felt depressed and like nothing mattered (victim bullshit) so i had a major ego backlash, i watched SO much porn, drank every night, slept for 10-12 hours a day, stopped meditating and eating healthy, really just said "fuck it" and went all out. It was a good experience, i needed it. The past 2 years i have diligently been pushing myself to keep good habits, meditate , etc and this was my first real fuck it moment and i just let myself give in to all my old bad patterns i have been trying so hard to defeat. In this ego backlash, which lasted about 10 days i slowly starting waking up again, realized how miserable i was becoming, anxieties and shit were all coming back, and i felt this hopelessness. I never said to myself "i have to get back on track!" i did it because i genuinely wanted to, like Leos video "Awareness alone is curative". I came snapped out of it and hit it hard; fasting, semen retention/ no fap, 2 hours of meditation a day, pushing myself to actually just start conversations with random people bc it scared me (which went very well), no tv, no bullshit, no time wasting, working hard, visualizing, journaling, contemplation, gratitude, excersice, the whole fucking lot. I have been doing this about a week now and wow. Holy fucking shit. I can feel such a significant shift, it has brought me to tears multiple times. Finally after 2 years of busting my ass i am seeing the real fruits beginning to bud. I can say i feel so good, just in my body alone, i feel buzzing and warmth all throughout myself like vigorous, i feel calm, i realized today if my company fired me i would be totally fine as long as i have my back, i don't fear as much at all i realize all the fear comes from within and will manifest only as thoughts and feelings which are things i can simply witness and allow and usually when i do that, they dissolve. My mind has no grip on me, and we are actually becoming friends, self-love is at a whole new level. I am beginning to really see life as an amazing gift to be enjoyed and how much of a shame and waste it is to live in fear or anxiety. your happiness and joy are all that matter, anything in the way of that can burn. I know these are only words and it is so hard to put what is happening into words, but if you are out there and struggling or need motivation, fucking keep at it, you got this, this is ALL that matters. Slowly, i am ripping apart my limitations i feel like nothing is out of reach, i am just so fucking happy! I want to give Leo my infinite gratitude, @Leo Gura if you are reading this I fucking love you man you are truly an amazing soul and what you are doing is changing the world. you have certainly changed my world, without your motivation and knowledge this would've been impossible, it is so not encouraged or even talked about in our society. Love you man , for real <3 Thanks for waking me the fuck up, i could've never woken up and died an old, unhappy man.

This Adi guy is a piece of shit; http://www.arcane-archive.org/religion/scandals-of-adi-da-samraj-2.php

I would like to start this by saying I find everything Leo has done to be very helpful, mind bending, and in many ways healing. I meditated for 2 years before watching any of his videos, and after i discovered them it took my meditations to a whole new level, i became a much happier person, it was like i found exactly what i needed and was so inspired and motivated to do this work. Currently i am spending a month alone to get into the feeling of being and cut out distractions, and it has been tough....there has surfaced just this general angst and anxiety that isn't going away. I am beginning to fear and actually get pist off at the idea of enlightenment. What if it is delusion? What if it is the ultimate illusion and the real reality is that we are individuals who are going to just die and that's it? Why does that feel so much more real? Most of the posts i see about enlightenment are so fucking lofty, mysterious, and even have a hint of darkness in them. I don't get it, i thought that was the ultimate goal , how is it that you get there, and there is still so much to do? In one of Leos videos he talks about people chasing "happiness" like hamsters in a wheel, and the cheese is an illusion. Well how is this much different, it's just chasing spiritual highs and realizations in place of dopamine highs. I am 100% sure i sound pretty unconscious or ignorant but i was doing great before enlightenment came into the picture. I don't get why i can't just be happy with self-love and awareness. Questioning my ego, and telling it (myself) I need to die all the time and i'm a devil, especially while doing this work completely alone, i feel is threatening my sanity and peace of mind, i feel some people just are not ready to do that yet, it has to be worked up to. Anyway, just felt like getting that out, i know frustration is typical on this path but sometimes i see people living unconsciously and they seem pretty happy at times. Today i walked past these dudes just drinking beer and laughing on the beach and they seemed so carefree, i got a bit jealous, it's like ignorance is bliss. I'm here meditating hours a day, reading, watching videos, cutting out bad habits and YES i have had amazing moments of peace and joy, and i am not discarding those. But it seems to always come down and i'm back to the angst , anxiety , pain

Yeah but it is so draining, it begins to physically hurt at some point and make you sick and you want to just say fuck it, fuck all this. Today i meditated an hour went for a run and all day felt angry, fearful , anxious, then i see these 4 dudes hanging out on the beach getting drunk and laughing. Sometimes i just miss that shit

I wanna heal! Spill the beans @Leo Gura Also, I had the same sort of egoic "rattling" with an Ayahuasca experience. I felt an energy move through my whole body and i was basically convulsing uncontrollably from head to toe, possessed almost, for an hour. afterwards i felt great though

This is really interesting, great presentation. I don't think going over 5g is anything i will ever do in this lifetime, seems like there could be no coming back from that. Don't agree with his viewpoints on Ayahuasca but everyone has their choice/opinion

To be completely honest, I feel a bit superior to them. I don't want to be like that, and I don't verbalize, thus it is a feeling

Thanks for the insight @Michael569! I had never heard of the age factor before in Tao, interesting. I am in my 20s but the more i read on Semen Retention , the more i feel retaining could give me the extra energy and drive to get the shit done in life i want. Also, couldn't agree more on if it is to be expelled, doing it only during actual sex. Wanking is for chumps

Hello fellow self-actualizers, I would like to get your insight on this, especially if any of you have done something similar. Currently I am living alone in Mexico by the beach. All day i sit on the beach, read, meditate, surf, and do some work on the laptop if needed. I have never been really this alone and not trying to socialize while i am hereo. I was inspired by many of Leos' videos with the theme of us losing our essence and joy of "being" because of so many distractions in todays world. I am finding the more i sit around without much to do, like on the weekend i remove all distractions even surfing and books and just sit there.\, a lot of shit comes up, anxiety, restlessness, anger, and i begin to feel depleted and depressed. A conscious part of me is able to witness it and let it go in a sense but it seems to come back harder and stronger. As the days go by i feel like i am working through a lot, but how much of this is actual detoxing, like this restlessness and anxiety is leaving me and how much of it is just illusion? Like i am just restless because i am sitting around doing nothing and suffering unnecessarily? Will this go anywhere? I want to believe that a state of peace in being will come if i sit with myself in awareness long enough but it is getting more and more tempting everyday to fall back into old distractions (porn, drinking, partying, etc). I suppose this is ego backlash in the moment, just hard to see when i am burried in it. Anyone have experience with anything like this? Thanks! <3

@GreenWoodsThank you for the video man, will check it out!