BlessedLion

Just bought it lol I'm an hour in Some very profound insights but also a bit lower consciousness and manipulation. I'll have to be careful consuming this material and only take away positive aspects. I will not manipulate people

Are you channeling this information or something? That's spot on! Everytime I have a major psychedelic breakthrough in the past, life threw massive challenges and suffering my way when i tried to maintain that state, and i failed, fell for it, each time.

Well, that's technically true but I think you know what I mean here. I've done many trips. Around 80. They were foundational to my understanding. But I think there's a point where you drop them

Well put. I mostly agree with you. But also, you can't discount Leo's work and exceptional way of explaining these concepts and breaking through all the bullshit. One thing i appreciate about him is he gives you the answers straight up with no watering down. But as far as his ego goes and putting down all these great masters paths and practices...that's another story

I just bought Hot Seat At Home for around $300. So far it's insightful. I'm going to finish it. But as I watch a get a but of a creepy feeling. Like this is just social manipulation. Owen keeps yelling about how he can get into people's heads and do what he wants. I wanted a legit course in authentic socialalizing. Also fuck The Natural Lifestyles, those guys are the lamest scam con artists around. They pose as chill enlightened guys but are total losers, especially James

https://youtu.be/MeM5VC-Mkto

I see this as a phase, but def something to watch out for. Also, when were you not self absorbed? Haha maybe now it's just more conscious. Sometimes I see women (mostly) get totally lost in this childhood trauma and relationship trigger world. And they just seem to run in circles and go crazy about it. It's all "my inner child needs this!" One chick even states that "there isn't one inner child you need to love, there's a whole orphanage!" What a nightmare. Keep going. Horizontal and vertical

It's nice if you're alone and have space imo. When i trip it's really dramatic, dancing moving laughing crying and I don't like people looking at me while I go through that process.

Thanks for sharing your viewpoints. Don't get me wrong. I've had amazing revelations from psychs that would've been very difficult through meditation, but not impossible. How many of you have really spent 14-21 days in complete silent meditation? It does amazing things. I've never had 5 MEO so this i can't speak on. I just feel like they can cause a dependency when i feel it's much more powerful to 100% rely on yourself That said i don't discount their legitimacy but it does seem like Leo has said meditation is a waste of time, which is absolute bullshit

Yes there is a book on this. I forget the name it was about organic dying

But he's not me, he's Leo

Sounds like Leo and his whole , "what every human needs to hear I'd that their a selfish mother fucker" ideology. I watched the whole video. Thanks

@Breakingthewall get what you guys are saying but the point is that the sun (awareness) shines regardless of the state. There can be 1 cloud let's call that Bliss, sun still there , there can 100, depression, but the sun is still there. So the sun, awareness, YOU is always the case , the clouds come and go

Super obvious. But he also has some good points and insights from what psychedelics have shown him. It's just when he makes it about him that it's obnoxious

Pleasure, confidence, energy. For those who don't have it. No need for it these days.

A few things; -You wont be able to really experience the trip, your friends will be distracting you. Don't expect to contemplate much or connect with the medicine deeply - Seeing that you're out in public away from a bed. It could go bad and you could potentially have a rough time. Personally I hate tripping in public. Get way too tripped out. But having friends with you could help If you're doing it just for fun or a good time it should be fine and could be great. Just have your own space and don't take too much. Less is more

Maybe I'll do psychedelics like 3,4 times a year

Yeah, couldn't agree more. It's going to sound cliche but I feel like there is something more pure about gaining insights and wisdom and consciousness sober. Totally on your own. I've heard a teacher once say that these substances have their own consciousness and we don't fully understand them or why they show us these things. Sounds a bit paranoid but I've had experiences with plants that felt downright malicious as well as God like and beautiful. I still plan to use them. I think they can be beautiful and revel things that I'm not seeing as well as re spark love for this work. But see it as more like watching a cool movie or something. Not seriously using it or depending on it for consciousness work. These days i just say to myself life is the psychedelic and there is no reason God would make it impossible to become conscious of things sober and through hard work. My meditations these days are pure Bliss. Heaven. I'm 7 years in and have clocked in 5-6K hours. Leo is a genius though and I doubt he is wrong. He has obviously thought and contemplated extensively on this material, i try to not rule anything out. But dismissing meditation like he does is kinda lame and close minded.

But they aren't states it's just becoming more aware of what is already the case; IE; removing the clouds. It can't be a state

@Water by the River Wow. Thanks for that explanation. You clearly know your shit well. This is pretty much exactly how my teacher explains it. Except regarding the psychedelics,but it sounds like Hawkins where as you get higher on the scale of consciousness, even an increase of .001% is massive and if you are low an increase of 5% is pretty small in terms of behavior and connection to God. My question; do you think there is a point where psychedelics are actually setting you back? Throwing you off momentum? Not helping? Cheerz

It's safe to assume that Ralston got nothing wrong. Read his books and you'll know. None of you are even close to as conscious as him

My teacher told us that if we unconsciously kill anything like a bug or something to look at it after. Look at the mosquito and it may still be writhing in agony, notice that it has eyes like you. That is all. No rules on what to do, but just observe. I still kill mosquitos all the time by the way

Don't be a fucking creep. Wtf kinda post is this?

Basically heroine. Fuck that

I read a few articles. Pretty toxic