BlessedLion

Absolutely, and that's a solid nuance. I think there are like 2 layers of attraction, one is the developmental/consciousness layer another is a more "timeless" attraction. Where a woman who is in Stage Red but is super in touch with her femininity, seductress energy and is just sexy.... yeah a Stage Green dude will go for that. Another example is John Smith & Pocohauntus, like they were on different levels of development (Purple and Blue) but still had hot sex. Likewise a Stage Orange "Wall street jock" (idk whatever is hot) will still be able to attract a Stage Green hippie (maybe) I do think men are maybe more vulnerable to being attracted regardless of developmental levels whereas women likely fall more into their own developmental levels. Bc men are more attracted to the physical and energetic and women are more attracted to the personality, mind, and behaviors.

It's not though, it teaches you very important and essential skills of dealing with women and people in general. It depends entirely on who is doing, how they are doing it and why they are doing, but shaming men for going out and meeting, talking to and fucking women is not the way. I agree if you consume too much pick up material especially the mainstream stuff, it will kill your ability to naturally just attract and be yourself, but also a lot of guys need serious help just with the basic and foundational dating skills or they will remain virgins

Absolutely. This is an important nuance, and does apply to what I was saying about developmental levels of attraction. Most Pick up material is tailored to attracting Stage Orange women, but if you try that shit with Stage Green women they will almost immediately reject it. I have spent a lot of time in both types of communities, and this distinction is very fascinating. So yeah if you want a Stage Green or above woman, you have to play a different game, they are more intelligent and can see through the game-playing and posturing easier. Which is why i think the ultimate game is just develop yourself, have a life purpose, be strong, and have a strong foundation around you, then you naturally act confident and high status and loving because you just are.

Yeah just shared it above, it's fucking solid ^ Interesting about Todd, I have tried some of his stuff and his courses but it never really landed deeply for me. It sounds interesting though. Maybe i'll revisit it

Considering that modern society is just a scratch on the surface of the human timeline, this makes sense. This type of attraction is actually 99% of the subconcious interaction and evaluation. That's why women can rationally know "he is a good provider, kind, caring, etc" but subconsciously want the lover archetype

Ah yeah, this is quite fascinating too, i think the book Red Queen touches on this as well. Some men fall into Provider category and others as Lovers and what's really crazy is that even a woman is with a provider mate she might cheat on him with the Lover mate while ovullating to pass on his genes, and something like 10% of people are not the offspring of their "fathers"

That's a solid point. I feel like the deep thinkers or creatives eventually tire out on this material. While it's fascinating it's only one component of reality and something like consciousness, metaphysics, awakening is far more fulfilling and meaningful. David DeAngelo is the only person i saw who took it to another level like that discussing the subconcious attraction. Check it out, this blew my fucking mind, don't overshare it though bc i think they are trying to wipe all his stuff from the internet:

Absolutely man, same. I find myself typically dating older women because i find maturity and depth so sexy. The other day i was with this really hot young Turkish girl but she was on her phone so much that i just left. I couldn't handle the lack of presence and shallowness even though things were headed towards sex.

Sounds very interesting, keep us posted. I am also really intruiged by the "developmental levels of attraction" , I think that attraction grows through stages and just from talking to women i find that some of them have a "Stage Orange" attraction development and some have "Stage Green" attraction development. It's really fascinating. Women in Stage Green have almost no interest in what typical Stage Orange women find attractive and in fact are quite repulsed by it. I find this so fascinating

Damn this is a very deep take, i totally agree. I think that like the majority of it is subconcious communication and the only teacher i've seen touch on that is David DeAngelo

Really loving all the consciousness/ Gods imagination posts recently. Is the book going to contain this kind of material? You really explain it well via writing!

Looksmaxxing is the male version of annorexia and i blame social media. Guys think they need to look like 6 foot chads with chiseled jaws to attract, when that is only a small fraction of what attracts

I grew up in America, but left to work remote about 10 years ago and only visited for short periods of time, most of my friends are international. Honestly, I don't really even identify with being American much anymore, and i find it to be quite a cringe culture. When i watch the American news updates (which is very rare) it just makes me so grateful that i don't live there anymore. I have no plans to ever go back, i find that i fit in much better with different cultures and mindsets. Wish America all the best, but yeah no way i'm going back there, it took so much work to break out of that mindset and conditioning.

Come to Bali it's literally over flooded with beautiful women, i don't even react or look twice anymore

Fitness, Dating and Attraction/Social Skills, Meditation/Consciousness, Speaking and Writing skills for YT

Beautiful stuff, thank you!

hollyyy fuccccckkkk the craziest thing is to realize that even this forum chat, the text on it, the "different users", even the wifi, and every pixel and light on my screen is all that same imagination. And that all its made out of is consciousness! It's so fucking precise and consistent it's so delisously devious!

So what is your take on Free Will versus Gods Perfection, because if i eat the poison and use my mind in a foolish way, is that outside of God Perfection? Or if i become more intelligent and use my mind to become a Master of martial arts for example, is that outside of Gods Perfection and something that i manifested? Does Gods Perfection hold the possibilities of me both being an idiot or a master and it's up to me which one to pursue?

I think there is a beauty is allowing people the freedom to do what they want with their bodies and lives. Who is to say that someone cannot be the decider of something like that? Some countries that are developed actually have programs where you can "opt out" in a safe and professionally monitored way with dignity and no shame. Imagine how terrifying it must be do already want to committ suicide then having to figure out a way to do it all by yourself knowing your family and friends are going to hate you for doing it. They do it over a period of months so that it is clear that you are sure about this decision, you do workshops, excercises, talk therapy, but eventually you get to "commit suicide" I also think of people in horrific medical or mental conditions who just want it to stop and have no hope of getting better. Why is suffering through that better than death?

Kinda edgy advice but maybe see an escort just to experience it once and see what it is, get it out of your system. Then you can maybe go about it in the real world in a more relaxed manner. stay safe. that's what i would do if i was still a virgin.

you lost me here lmao

Can we please start discussing dating dynamics in terms of spiral dynamics. I think it'll save a lot of confusion and conflict. Sexuality and attraction has an intelligence and develops like SD systems do.

Dead on. It's actually exhausting. And the saddest part is that if you are playing this game you might actually miss out on the rare woman who doesn't care and wants to know the real you, but she writes you off because you are playing "alpha male i'm above you high status" monkey games.

I've been trying to get more into social circle and hosting events, specifcally for creatives in Bali (people doing creative work) not neccesarily to meet women, but that's not a negative. I do find cold approach to be quite powerful though, because dating/hooking up in your social circle can get messy quick

I also question just how much men bend themselves and do things just to have access to hot women. I mean i've met guys who literally have based their whole lives around this one thing, completely changing their values, interests, activities, and personality so they can be around and date hot women.