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i don't really agree with saddhguru

Hi, i am new to the forum but i followed leo's videos on youtube for a long time. Leo says that reality is conscious of itself but i struggle to understand it. Furthermore, i have come accross differend kinds of non-dual teachings, which share the idea that existence can't be conscious of itself, since it is all there is, so it can't step outside of itself to know it is conscious. This seems logical to me, can somebody help me understand this better?

@abrakamowse I agree on the practice part! Good luck in your spiritual journey!

@abrakamowse Yeah man they talk about the same things. Be carefull you may become very passionate about this! ahaha

@abrakamowse yes. but not only that. Every single human civilization has talked about the same stories but they just gave their gods different names due to different languages. For example: Look at how sumeries describe the annunaki. And then look at ancient greeks describe theirs gods. The biblical gods were identical too. 0 differences. They were the same in height, in strenght. They all had same tastes and they gave same orders to the population. If you dig deep in that, this will utterly shock you. https://metismagazine.com/2017/01/06/interview-to-mauro-biglino-the-bible-doesnt-talk-about-god/ One example, he is very qualified. He has translated 17 biblical books.

If you read even the non canonical books, you find things that will blow your mind. Fact is that the bible contains completely another story of what is being told and translated. And this story is completely congruent of what i said before. Biblical texts are a copy of ancient stries. The story of "elohims" that came to the earth and contacted the population etc... this stories are told all over the world and they all talk about the same thing. The bible is just a copy of that. If you read the bible literally without interpretations, you see incredible congruency with this stories.

I studied the interpretations of many religions. Everybody has their interpretation. It's all invented. If you read the bible literally, you will discover something else... true congruency and things that will shock you. I don't want to debate for this things, it's part of my past now. Im not interested. Have a good day.

I have studied the bible, i was a believer. Then i studied jewish, it's the language in which the old testament is whritten. Man, all of the fundamental words translations have no philological evidence at all. Many of the principle biblical dictionaries explicitly inform to not translate terms such "Eternal" this way. Yet, this words are falsly translated and taken for granted by who reads the bible at home. When you go read the bible and you find "eternal", in the original hebriew word you don't find that. All of the bible is translated like this. When i discovered that, i felt astonished. All prophecies are wrong. They don't exist. They were put there post-scriptum. In germany, in 2018 came out the rivisited bible. All of jesus prophecies written in Isaiah are deleted. They were wrong translated. Go check out. We don't even know when the various texst ware written. 0 evidence. If you tell me the contrary, it's not correct. I used to blieve it, i researched and i discovered the truth. The truth is this. Go and check Bible Dictionaries for who studies this shit. Go to the hebrew university site and do research. Those are not things that i believe. This are facts. Don't believe me. Belive those who study that because it's their profession. But it's complicated, you really have to study that to understand. If you don't believe me, don't. Just make sure you research correctly.

oh thank you, i will do some research!

Thank you!

Thank you @Inliytened1!

Oh @Scholar i saw your edited post. Yes maybe i got what you mean. But hey nothing can be meant but meaning?

Are you joking? Or are you gonna say that only joking is joking now

Im just trying to understand you. Im from italy, can't phrase complicated questions. You want to make everything so complicated and everybody is shit compared to you, at least this is my impression.

So you mean you can't help but being worthy? You believe that worthyness can't be objectfied?

Why don't you give your definition of worthiness and give an advice without having to put it in such a large context and criticising everybody. @Scholar

@Scholar Yeah man show them! Show them what real value is! Like a real man! Just joking. Thanks for the intervention tho.

I think he is just remind me ahaha don't know

Who are some good online Vipassana teacher? Know any names guys?

Im going to get there when the time is right!

@Inliytened1 Oh ok. So that's how much profound they can be

what do you mean by "to return as self"?

I think that being worthy does not require logical explaination and it does not need to take other people into equation. The feeling of being worthy can only come if you are completely alignet with your true self.

Based on what you say this?

Knowing limits of logic using logic doesn't seem like "lack of reasoning" to me?