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@Leo Gura So this is unconditional love? It's the love that allows me to put meaning? So the duality here is love/nothing? I thought it was love/hate

@VeganAwake so giving meaning is something you do just to make yourself feel better just because you can?

Can i replace the word "reality" with "god" and say the same thing? If this is so, why say that god is love or has a purpose and why attach all this meaning to it?

I don't think so. Personally i find that the emotions are what give impact to the thought. I could think of killing myself right now, and laugh about it. Or be neutral about it. If that thought has no emotions behind it, it will fade and not appear again. If you are depressed for example, you can not change how you feel by trying to think positive. I think if you want to work with your emotions you have directly to wark with them. This does not mean think about them. In fact, thinking could be as well be a defense mecchanism to make you not confront some emotions that you really don't want to feel. I would suggest you get in touch with what is really going on inside you emotionally and then start a releasing process.

But this implies that there is something else beyond non duality. If you point out to me a third objects which transcends real vs illusion, non duality must also be applied to that third object (And that third object would be real and not real itself). And we can continue on like this forever. There is only non duality. In fact, let's talk about non duality applied to awareness. Because this is the bottom line, right? Everything arises because there is an awareness of it. Awareness is happening. Like everything else. Why? It just is. Everything has no meaning or purpose. Let me briefly explain how i know non duality. This, is all there is. By this, i mean this reality. And is infinite, boundless, limitless, formless. And it is all just happening. Within that arises an awareness (That seems to be located in that body), and suddenly, everything becomes dual. By that point forward, This becomes a subject object experience. So everything seems to be separate from you. The chair you are sitting in, the pc you are looking into. But we know it's all an illusion. (Notice that "sitting" and "looking" are just happening, like everything else within the experience. but they are also an illusion. Nothing really happends, it just appears to be.). I want to emphasise, that i find awareness to be dualism. Awareness is dualism itself and exists in dualism. And from that point forward everything seems to be dual. I understand that. But whether you are tripping or not it must be "something" that appears to experience that. That "Something" is awareness. I don't mean that it's the you that experiences that as a personallity construct. In a psychedelic trip, where the ego falls away there is just awareness, right? Without content. So that's why i ephasised that non duality must also be applied to awareness. So we can get to the bottom line. By that i mean that awareness does not exist, it is an illusion. And it never really happends, it just appears to be. When you die and awareness falls away... well it does not fall away. It just is recognized that it never really happend. By who? Well by no one. There is no one left and no one ever was. Non duality to me is so radical that non duality itself is not real. It is a complete paradox. I am open to explore this theory with you. Also, if you want you can ask clarification about terms such as "illusion" or "not real" etc, so we can communicate better. I can understand that often those words are loaded with different meanings which prevent clear communication. I cannot seem to find space for a sentient God in all of this. How does god and non duality relate?

I am having some difficulty understanding why You guys give such meaning to this work. You all agree that this experience is an illusion. There is no "i". I can conceptually understand that. However, that sense of "i" gives rise to the experience that then becomes "my life" as if i am expetiencing something. Ad it "all of this" is happening to an "i". When You come to understand that the "i" is an illusion, you also understand that you can not really know reality if there is still an "i" there. So what you do? You say: "Ok, since i understand that. I have to find a way to dissolve the " i", then i can know the truth for what it is". And this is what you do, you use psychedelics to achieve this. When you do psychedelics, you have that experience. You see things for what they really are. Then your "i" comes back. And of course thinks he knows what it was seen. Somebody says: "This was absolutely terrifying". Leo prefers to say: "This was absolutely fantastic". But you see, this is a duality. This is just an interpretation that the "i" imposes on that experience. So when you come back, you think you know what you saw. But of course you don't. What you saw was meaningless. It is not there for anybody. It just is. It is not wonderful, unconditional love, an incredible intelligent design. It is has not a greater scheme. It is not a bigger picture. It is not even meaningless. It just is. It can't be described. Now why are you all guys giving such meaning to those king of experiences? Why does leo talk about all this "wonderfull" things, which can be all a fairy tale? The way i see it, is that when you die, it's done. Never has really happened. Nothing needs to happen.And nobody will understand this. It Just is. For no one. Leo keeps saying that this work is not for you, it's not for your survival. But when he comes back from his tripps, he says all sorst of things that are pleasurable to his ego.

What does this mean? However, @Serotoninluv i thank you for the time you took into answering my questions. This was a very long and detailed answer, which i have to read through a bunch of times and think to reply. I have already read it once, and i can see that you understood what i was talking about, and you presented interesting points. Thank you. @LastThursday Interesting, thank you!

@SoonHei This was helpfull too, thank you

This video was going to make me cry hey ahahaha

Ok. And what do you believe happends when you die? Does this emptines wakes up and says "wow im god". Or does the sense of self fall away and only what remains is that pure emptiness? @Nahm

I can go on for ever. I know you are trying to tell me is not something i can understand but that i can feel.

@Nahm OK. So consciousness is all there is. I am it. But why do some people here say its an illusion?

Does it have a choice to make itself unconscious? Can't it be like this because it can't be no other way? Does he even have a sense of self? Or is it just pure isness without self? So which one is valid?

But since it is infinite, it is also infinite hate and infinite stupidity.

Are you trying to say that the "I" is illusory, but the experience is not? If there is not an "I" there is not an experience happening. The dreams now that i awoke, are filtered through my current state and understanding so i am distorting the perception of what really happened to me. I think that this is the problem, you are trying to put meaning to that dream from a distorted POV. Meaning can only happen when there is an "I" that attaches meaning to everything. We all know reality is empty, has no meaning. So how can you be sure to say that that emptines is love when you are deriving those conclusions from a distrorted POV? So yeah you might say the using psychedelics is just a way of further uncovering the illusion. But this will never work. Because it will never end. We all know it's infinite. @SoonHei I think my objections are more about being god. Like you think you are this infinite god that has this incredible design and is all loving and when your human form dies, well it goes on forever. When in reality, this are only meanings that you give. Why don't you just say: "It all just is. And is empty." Why not stop there but loading it with all those different meanings? Aren't this attempts of the ego trying to disguise truth?

Im looking for ways to access the unconscious and i got interested in nlp. But i have doubts about it's effectiveness. What do you find effective to access your unconscious beliefs and tendencies?

Thank you. Very usefull.

I will buy the book list very soon, i had already considered it. Thanks for sharing

@mikelyons thank you. I will check it out

Leo's answer satisfied me soo much ahahah

@Neorez Yeah im reading a book about it, seems quite interesting.

- Can true happiness be achieved? Or is it just a fairytale? - I tend to loose myself and get distracted. How can i learn theory and stay grounded in reality at the same time? - How can i overcome over thinking? - How can i actually find what my true values are? How do i discover who i am and what i really want in life? - Does fulfillment require hard work and discipline, or has it nothing to do with that? - How can i push forward despite confusion? - Can i communicate with god to receive help? Is prayer a real thing?

im interested

It's been 5 months since i started my path of self actualization. I studied a lot of things, a lot of perspectives, a lot a lot of various theory. Less of practice. Since i have been putting things into practice, i have overcome extreme difficult times, i have mistaken and felt like moved steps backward, i have had backlashes. Leo's video helped me massively. Eventually though, i realized i could not follow the advanced stuff anymore. I was so far behind, i did not had time to even check the forum as i was working on myself. I realized even though it's been half a year i started, i can't do advanced stuff only because there is so much content available. I have to start at the basics. In fact, i watched a 5 year old video on the actualized yt channel, and that resonated perfectly with me. I am afraid i gained so much theory, it would take me years to actualize... And i feel sad, because things here are moving so fast, or this seems to me. I feel sad for not being able to keep the pace with you guys. I have to come to the forun and ask stupid questions, sometimes i get the feeling like i am bothering people here. How can i speed up the process? Hope you guys understand, thanks.

Thank you.