Kushu2000

Leo, how many 5 meo DMT trips is it going to take you to become enlightened? Do you really think you can do it? You are fooling yourself. You are fooling yourself and everybody around you. All you are doing is chasing these mystical experiences. All EVERYBODY on this forum is doing is asking "how,how,how do i become enlightened?" I dont know if i'm making myself clear.. i'm not attacking anyone personally. I'm just saying the situation is completely hopeless. There is no path to enlightenment. This forum is basically "blind leading the blind".

@Shin if you meditated your way to this "love" than it is the same. Meditation is no different than drugs. It's a fleeting experience, this love, same as sex

@Meta-Man you're right, i am a parrot. Isn't everyone? I like UG, you like Leo (or whomever). It makes no difference. It's no mystery that less than 0.1% of you on this forum will become enlightened, so, in the meantime, keep enjoying the mystical "highs" and keep leaving in hope

@Shin that's a psychological "high" that you get on drugs. Nothing else. Nothing new. The same "divine love" Leo and all of these new agers are talking about has been repeated throughout the years by the "great sages". All of them are scammers. Pretending to be divinely loving but then, when you disagree with them, or if you fuck their wife behind their backs, they get angry and jealous. We are monkeys, like it or not.

@Inliytened1 are you satisfied with your "awakenings"? Are you happy? Spirituality is just a way of coping with the meaninglessness of it all.

@Max_V Im just pointing out the folly of all of this. Even i am full of shit. I have no illussions. Nevertheless, you are going to keep living in hope. That's all you have. Hope. And then you die.

People have probably talked about this stuff ad nauseum, but i havent heard a good argument for thid yet... If i hit you in the head, you lose consciousness. How can you then say that consciousness exists "out there" somewhere, apart from you, and exists withour your brain?

@MikeB lol, its a similar concept.

A very interesting video. What do you guys think?

Hey guys, I just finished my notes for this paper that was posted by Leo a while back on his blog. It's a research paper on developmental psychology, akin to spiral dynamics. I really got into it and I learned a lot, so I wanted to share my notes with you. A note of warning: the notes are pretty long (more than 20 pages) but there was just so much good stuff in it that I decided to just include it all in. 9 levels of increasing embrace in ego development.pdf

@Hello from Russia dont worry, if you understand wilber youll understand this. Theres a lot of parallels between the authors and besides i made the notes concise enough to be understood easily

@Rahul yadav apparently i cant post onenote files... Just copy the text into your onenote file, it's really easy

@Rahul yadav ok wait a sec..

Attached videos/usernames to whom u want to reply to (for example @Shin) cannot be deleted. At least on the android phone.

I've heard a lot of talk about absolute infinity on this forum.. this just seems to be one of the jhanas (arupa jhana).

Ok thx for the clarification

@Leo Gura ok no probs. Thanx Leo-ji.

@Inliytened1ive heard that before.. this thread was a result of my critical thinking.

@Truth Addict lol that's some cryptic shit and it took many tries to do. Thanks though

If the Bible says that God is all-powerful, omniscient, omnipresent,...and Leo is having the same insights on 5MeO DMT, whilst claiming that these states of consciousness can't be reached by the conventional hallucinogens (mushrooms, peyote,...) ... Doesn't that mean that the people who wrote the Bible had to experience some of the deepest states of consciousness? This is just a speculation, but if these states really can't be reached (most likely) through meditation, yoga... Then the folks who wrote the Bible might have had 5Meo experiences

@possibilities one things i have to say is that if everyone REALLY learned to think for themselves, they would come to the conclusion that Leo (and myself a long time ago) has come to. He recently released a video about it. There is only one authority: yourself (as in you for yourself, me for myself). Any external authority is a distraction and cannot lead you to the truth... Kind of sounds like this forum this forum in all actuality is the biggest distraction of all, because people are trying to describe the "Tao that can't be named".. which makes the Tao not eternal

@Truth Addict hmm that's a good, simple explanation. I was actually able to understand it, whereas the previous posts on this thread of endless philosophical jargon made absolutely no sense lol.

@possibilities Boom. Exactly. "Dude, stop using logic bro, get on our level and have a mystical experience bro!! It gon' shatter your materialist paradigm in seconds bruh!"...and yet, no mystical experience can occur without a (functioning) brain. This is where my skepticism lies. I've had the non-dual experience as well about a year ago, but does it really "prove" anything? What if non-duality is just like schizophrenia - a subjective perception projected onto reality? It makes sense, because reality is inherently terrifying and full of suffering, so people have to create beliefs and put themselves into mystical trances/non-dual states, in which "everything is infinite love and goodness". "Kushu, that's just your ego speaking!" But what if I truly am just a human? What if I'm just a monkey? It's interesting to me how people want to discover that they're God or something totally different from what we assume (a human) and go to such lengths (taking 5MeO extensively, locking oneself into a cave) just to further double down on their delusions. What if non-dual states are experiences, generated by the biology, which then make a person project their "non-dual awakening" onto the world?

@Autumn i guess it's almost like deep sleep.. there is judt "nothing". No consciousness, or rather, no one to be conscious, just pure emptiness. However Nisargadatta, as far as I understand, said in his book"I am That", that there is apparently a state of consciousness (for lack of a better term), called Turiya, in which one is conscious even in deep sleep. So, in a way, Turiya encompasses all, the dreaming, the waking and the deep sleep state. It encompasses all but transcends all at the same time

@possibilities @possibilities awesome comment, @Jed Vassallo @Jed Vassallothanx. Yeah, i've come to these conxlusions myself. In the end, you have to be your own authority, everything else is just a pointer towards that very destination/food fir though. Btw, how do you delete @possibilities or @jed vassallo?? This is annoying