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Longest was 90 days. I've done many streaks of at least 30+ days. I really had no choice when it came to my POIS episodes. I've been doing that for basically the past 4 years while I had POIS. In my experience the benefits plateau around the 3 week mark. That's when stagnated energy begins to become an issue, and you've either got to transmute it through a direct energy practice like kriya yoga/microcosmic orbit, or ejaculating resets the energy system. It is different for everyone though. I still believe there are benefits to it as I've spoken about in previous posts. I also think there are lots of benefits to non-ejaculatory sex especially for cases like myself. The difference is that I no longer crash and burn so severely when I ejaculate. Semen retention still gives me that extra edge in confidence, assertiveness, arousal, and ambition I would say, although it depends on ejaculation frequency. It's all pretty nuanced.

Yep I 100% agree with you. Just use a bit of common sense and pay attention to your direct experience when it comes to diet seems like the best diet philosophy haha

I am yet to try organic whole wheat, but as far as my experience goes non organic forms of gluten worsens my POIS unfortunately. It seems to give me tonnes of energy though, probably because it's so convenient to eat.

Only necessary if you have POIS otherwise you will be in a state of chronic inflammation 24/7. Then you need to try and figure out your condition. It can be a useful tool as an abstaining from pleasure practice, dopamine detox, or to increase your motivation to bang real girls. Most people do it in a neurotic fashion though. A lot of people (who do not have chronic POIS) do report an increase in overall energy levels as well.

@Someone here ( my advice ) focus on figuring out your purpose if you haven't already. Go after what you love. Connect deeply with what you love about life. This will ground you and fill you with love. Discover what gives you an erection for life cold approach/work on your dating skills on the side. Do whatever you gotta do to grow in this department. Join a pickup group, improve your health, microdose, etc. If you focus exclusively on cold approaching, it can become too depressing to handle. That's why you gotta balance it with something "hearty" in life, like a passionate and exciting life purpose, art, hobbies, etc. Watch some RSDTyler biography videos, he went through a very rough path to become the man he is today. Anything is possible!! a mistake would be to sit back and think something is just gonna fall in your lap. It just doesn't work that way unless you are already somewhat confident or you don't care about the quality of chick. The GREAT NEWS is that you are still young at 26! You don't want to turn 50 and still have these issues, it will be a lot harder at 50 to fix this stuff than at 26 own your darkest desires. If you want to fuck hot girls, go after it mate!! Consensually of course good luck brother you got this

Lol until you have a dick you will not understand what sex means from a male perspective

I go into a lot more details here https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3964.msg42080#msg42080 where I've documented my POIS experiences, testings, protocol, etc. Who knows. All I know is that it works lol. Indian culture has been using fenugreek for eons so I'm not really worried about any adverse effects. I've been using it for over a year now with no problems. Naturally I give my body a break from it (when I'm not ejaculating) which I think is healthy. I've always had pretty bad body odour since I was 11

Interesting. So if you ate two bananas which would kick you out of ketosis you would experience some kind of POIS? You should document your experience at poiscenter.com. The community would be very interested in hearing your experiences with this. B complex literally changed my life. I find the non-active forms seem to work a lot better especially for my POIS. I had these weird afternoon brainfog spells which would always come on around 4-5pm (independent of POIS). They were fixed through an active B complex I was taking (LifeExtension's BioActive). That same active B complex though does not perform as well however when I use it for my POIS. I take another one (Nature's Own 150 B Forte), which is mostly non-active B vitamins with methyl B12.

@Aleister Crowleyy lmao Yup it took me a while to figure out what I was experiencing is an actual diagnosable condition. I have mates irl who experience similar symptoms, and then others who don't at all. It was always so strange to me. The only thing my 'solution' doesn't do for me is give me insane levels of energy. Semen retention still accomplishes that purpose ;). My energy levels are normal when ejaculating and using the solution.

Most people with POIS have their symptoms go away after a few days. That's not really fixing the issue. Basically if I waited 2-3 weeks between ejaculations I would not experience symptoms. That is not the natural frequency my body wants to ejaculate at being 21 years old. Now I can ejaculate however much I want. If I have sex, I don't need to worry about back to back sessions. ??? You've tested garlic, fenugreek, gluten-free, niacin, matcha green tea, etc already? If so, at least you've found something which works. POIS is a stubborn and strange condition.

@bambi Yeah it basically fucked my life up as well, but I've pretty much turned it all around. Anything is possible! Make sure in addition to trying my treatment you also test the other solutions which have worked for others: https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2338.0. POIS is a very complex condition, different things work for different people. Good luck!

If you can get into software development of some kind, like web development then finding a remote role would be a lot easier. I also want to explore filmmaking, culture, travel, etc. That's my long-term strategy for now at least. There are many other jobs you can do remotely, but I think programming is definitely one of the easier routes. The r/digitalnomad reddit has a lot of wisdom and inspiration you can search through!

I was almost stabbed about 3 weeks ago when my buddies and I were catching a train into Sydney to have a fun night out to game. Completely unprovoked, just a dude lost in a world on drugs. We were pretty much corned on a carriage, so we had no where to run. He was completely irrational. One of those situations where we were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Fortunately for us a group of big fellas came and circled him from both directions moving him onto the next carriage. Who knows what would of happened if they weren't there. This was also 7:15 pm on a Friday night at a relatively busy station lol. Such is life, risk is inherit to living. They caught him on CCTV pulling out a big kitchen knife on someone else (according to my friend who was with us - his dad is a police sergeant at a local station nearby). The event certainly raddled us. Though it really put things into perspective that night in regards to how fucking easy and un-scary approaching girls are relative to being stabbed . Took us a good week or two to get over it. Went back out last Thursday night and had a solid time.

Perfect timing... I have been struggling lately on how to pull out my own creativity. I want to be creative but I just don't know how lol. Will give this a go

Yup. I had a fungal infection for a good 10 years and it wasn't until I took a pill (It's called Terbafine here in Australia) that it wiped it away. I tried lazer, tea tree oil, eucalyptus oil, anti fungal cream etc. The only successful thing was a simple pill I took daily for 3 months.

It depletes my energy no doubt. This isn't uncommon thought in eastern paradigms as well. When I was younger (12 - 16) I had no problems ejaculating every day or every second day. I am 20 now, and I can say without a doubt it gives me negative effects if I do it more than once every 2 weeks. It's difficult to understand why this happens to some of us and then doesn't to others. We're probably all wired differently energetically. I have friends IRL that feel the exact same way, and others that don't.

Absolutely. I had been doing meditation for about 2 years. I tried Goenka Vipassana, Shinzen Young noting, loving kind-ness (metta), a little bit of Do Nothing, a little bit of strong determination sitting. I did The Mind Illuminated for a solid 6-8 months (2 hours or so a day). It's still early days but Kriya Yoga has been showing some very positive signs (for me personally), that I just didn't get that with regular meditation. As Leo said, I think the meditation is too "mental" orientated whereas Kriya brings in the physical body which is what I am liking.

Ever since starting Kriya and having a few "energetic experiences", specifically during Kriya Pranayama, my mind has stilled quite significantly around other people. Usually my mind is absolutely chaotic and neurotic around others - it compulsively judges myself and others, creates a lot of fear etc. Since these "energetic experiences" a stillness has been present ever since. I am very grateful for this opportunity but I am also cautious at the same time of not becoming too attached because I know something like this may be temporary. I am also a lot more aware of my spine. It almost feels like I am a puppet on a string, where the string is my spine which feels it has been cemented into the present moment. My question is: why has this happened, was there a particular chakra that was blocked that Kriya has opened? And is there a certain chakra I should be focusing on during om japa for example to reinforce this experience? Any insight into this experience would be very helpful, thanks guys!

Thanks for your response! The question is though, how do you know which chakras are blocked or not? Is this simply understood by whether the feeling/prana in and around that chakra is present? And to balance each chakra, would you say om japa (chanting om in each chakra posteriorly from root to the medula) is sufficient? The reason I say om japa is because I've heard that is a tool used to clean out each chakra.

Yesterday I had some very interesting experiences while high. I smoked some weed with a few friends and as part of my practice, told myself to be "as aware as possible" of the transition from sober to high. Suffice to say it was interesting. I got up and immediately felt my body become a lot more energised, aware of it's physical presence a lot more prior to smoking. I then began jerking my body to experience the transient nature of sensations, saying to myself "become as aware as I possibly can", noting the transient nature of the body. I then just let my attention move throughout my experience organically, noting anicca anicca anicca, changing changing changing. It was at this point that I realised I was becoming more conscious, and told my friends that I am experiencing something profound, just let me be and do not worry. I then went back and did the same for the visual thoughts arising and passing. Some part of me actually noted the visual thoughts automatically - I've been doing noting, particularly "see in" for mental images in my practice for a quite some time now and it's probably begun to build momentum. As I was becoming aware of the transient nature of who I think and feel I am, I began self-inquiring, quite naturally. Who am I if the sensations are constantly changing? Who am I if the thought process is transient, up arises one visual thought, and then a new thought arises and takes over that one. Then suddenly, I felt like I had cracked open the limited identity that ties me into this experience of the "world", the world of form. It’s like I am tied up into this current consciousness (the ‘reality’ of living as a human being’), as I identify with human form. And as soon as I broke free from that illusion, by looking closer at reality, my consciousness was liberated from “the world”. A spiritual force took over my body and wanted to keep realising, wanted to keep seeing, how I am not my thoughts or sensations as they are arising and passing away - it did this by jerking and moving my body around like an animal all the while "doubling up" on the awareness of how the form that constitutes my human experience - visual thoughts and sensations - are arising and passing away, transient. This process felt so good, like I was experiencing a whole body orgasm of sensations. From this point I felt like I had left my body, experiencing intense love in the process, for all the sensations and feelings occurring in that moment. I felt like I had broken free. If you had of looked at my body from a 3rd person point of view, you would of thought this guy is going crazy and psychotic jerking around in the grass (I just let my body go to the ground and allowed it to do its thing). My body basically completely took over in a very raw animalistic way. The "world" that I usually take as reality, at this point vanished into from what I can only try to understand, into a higher conscious experience of the present moment. I remember realising this was the purpose of life. To become more conscious. For consciousness to wake up, lost in it's own dream, and that there are deeper levels of experience and love waiting within. It felt like I had just cracked the first level. I couldn't believe it, I was so god damn happy and felt a massive relief - this was the first taste of what is possible - and a confirmation that this pursuit of consciousness and spirituality is indeed a path. I remember realising this is exactly where consciousness, creativity, love, joy, intuition come from. When you access these higher dimensions of consciousness, they're inherently full of those qualities. After this initial "ascension" I came back to my body, trying to figure out how to "cause" that again. I remember my consciousness swinging into unconsciousness, thought stories, fear of not accessing that again, craving for that experience, and then into actual cold hard awareness which would then perpetuate the experience again. While going through this entire experience, I felt very calm, clear, and grounded. My friends then went inside (we were out smoking by a campfire). So I went and sat in front of the fire by myself. I shut my eyes and told myself "become as conscious as I possibly can". I then became extremely aware of the black screen (by shutting the eyes), and an orange pattern (from the light of the fire I assume). I then began to use my consciousness like a telescope, zooming in and out of the orange pattern present on the black screen. I could literally zoom in and out at will. As i zoomed in, the orange visuals transformed into creative fractals. When I zoomed out, I could see the black screen with very fine orange dots. 20 mosquitoes at this point had probably bitten my legs but I didn't care because what I was experiencing was so profound. The sensations in my legs were merely all just apart of this infinite stream. I thought to myself, after this very clear experience of zooming in and out, this is exactly what Leo is referring to when he talks about consciousness being a volume notch that can be turned up or down. I then went inside and laid down on my bed sideways. I still had a tonne of energy from these experiences. It was about 4 am at this point. I intended for the same thing. "Become as conscious as I possibly can". This is where it gets even weirder. When I intended to "become as conscious as I can", it's like an intuitive-knowing part of me knows what to do to become conscious. When I intended this, over and over again, my body began to fill with energy (my awareness just absorbed into the body). My body begun jerking and twitching again on its own like earlier. This time however my ass muscles began contracting by themselves in a very consistent spaced out fashion, almost like a conveyor belt moving one product at a time, moving this elixer of energy and pumping it up my spine. I distinctively felt the lower and upper back chakras. They felt like massive orbs of energy. They felt a lot "bigger" then I conceptually imagined them to be - I haven't read too much about chakras and all that yoga stuff, but I knew this was clearly some kind of yoga/kundalini phenomena. Throughout this process, I was basically bouncing from consciousness to unconsciousness lost in stories - the unconsciousness was perpetuated by fear of losing the experience (when I went unconscious, these kundilini/yoga phenomena stopped). I then learnt that as long as I intended to "become as conscious as possible" again and again and again, not missing a beat, it would push me back into this experience with the energy going up my spine. At one point, my body was jerking so violently I had to put a conscious control so as to not do any damage to my neck. The entire time throughout this experience I felt very grounded and calm. I realised that you cannot access these states in anxiety etc as your neurosis are the times when you're literally the most unconscious - identified with thought stories and phenomena which is ultimately ephermal. I also realised that all I need to do is to be conscious moment by moment. On a more "meta" level exactly what Leo says. Stop getting pulled into thought stories and taking the dream contents so literally (you're losing consciousness) and go more meta - whats happening right now as I am entertaining this story - oh, i'm experiencing visual thought, auditory thought, I am outside etc. Notice where you are at all times of the day. Notice what you're doing. Notice when experiences have ceased - note them with 'gone', and the memory of it 'see in'. Become aware of when you're in thought. Become aware of when your emotions change from happy to sad, peaceful to agitated, etc. What has worked very effectively for me, and I encourage you to try it, is to just have the intention right now "to be as conscious as I possibly can" and repeatedly uphold this intention moment by moment throughout your day. When you become conscious, you go beyond the reality of form, the world you take as “reality”. And I can understand that attachments to this state of consciousness (e.g. a beautiful relationship with something) might result in emotional hurt as you realise this person is just a figment of God imagination and a reflection of how conscious you are… the more conscious you are, the world of form seems to disappear. While this experience was still very fresh, I imagined what it must be like being a “stream enterer” or at least higher states of consciousness integrated into sober reality - what this would feel like. You’ve trained your consciousness to become SO AWARE of reality, moment by moment, the arising and passing away of phenomena is so clear and unseeable, the transient nature of thought and sensation is too glaringly obvious. Your consciousness is so soaked into sensory experience. You're in a stream oh phenomena without identifying with anything. How satisfying and fulfilling this must be. While writing this, my feelings and mind are getting slightly frustrated attempting to explain what happened last night in a way that makes sense. Wisdom bits: Keep going… there is certainly a whole new world within you that is worth exploring. You will be thanking yourself for once you’ve achieved these higher states of consciousness more permanently, the fruit will be worth the effort 100000x over. Yooohoooo. Techniques I've been practicing: The Mind Illuminated (Stage 4-5)/ concentration Awareness throughout the day. Sometimes with noting, especially of thoughts. Sometimes just intuitively - "be as aware as I possibly can". Awareness of feelings. Awareness of thoughts. Contemplating transient nature of phenomena and being aware of this. All of reality is your meditation object. Basic self inquiry - who am I if the body and thoughts are transient? I just begun a Kriya Yoga practice a couple of days ago.

Keep developing my consciousness and purifying my mind through meditation practice (The Mind Illuminated) and contemplation (studying epistemology and questioning). I also have a Holotropic breathwork session coming up in a few days time so that will be interesting. Finding a creative process to express my life purpose.

Because for a lot of people, including myself, it has profound effects on their state of consciousness compared to when you frequently blow your load. For others, clearly, it does not result in the same effect. It’s as simple as that. In my experience, there is a significant increase in overall anxiety, lack of clarity, lack of motivation, and fatigue when I ejaculate. You need to find out for yourself if it effects your state of consciousness. If it does, then you drop or reduce it. If it doesn’t, then feel free to do whatever you wish. If you do undertake semen retention, you never want to “resist” or try to squash down the urge out of your experience. That’s silly because it’s not really in your control ultimately - which is probably what Leo was talking about when saying it’s pointless to resist it. What I do is I simply just be with the sexual energy and it passes on its own accord. I also practice Karezza, non orgasmic sex, so I don’t completely abstain from sexual activity.

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Long shot here, but if there’s anyone from Sydney (or near-abouts in Australia) and you’re interested in doing extended periods of time in deep meditation, consciousness work, self inquiry, retreat-like setting, etc AND you’re interested in combining resources eg money for accomodation & food, to make this a long term feasible opportunity, private message me. If you have any questions, private message me too! Please forgive me if I’ve posted this in the wrong sub forum.

Did you experience any strong emotional purifications?