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Found a video also covering pseudoscience, interesting watch: Funny how establishment science perceives a threat from fringe science and things outside normality and defies explanation.

Google definition, from Oxord: pseudoscience /ˈs(j)uːdəʊˌsʌɪəns/ noun a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method. "the new pseudoscience of ‘counselling’" First of all, we definitely need a more robust definition of pseudoscience, the current one is just lacking even in common sense. Also, there's a problem with some terms within that definition that needs unpacking, for instance what scientific method, and which scientific method is being referred to here, and by implication the methodology, epistemology and ontology assumed as the background for whichever scientific method cited here? This question is important to answer and clarify first because whatever your answer to which scientific method is here, determines the degree of the mistake regarded as being based on that type of scientific method, which could also further imply determination some of the nature of said 'collection of beliefs' or 'practices'(quotes of terms that need further defining or at least explaining of these premises in order to determine the degree of misperception, or mistaken regarding that such collection of beliefs/practices are based on scientific method). A few quick examples of pseudoscience: Gestalt therapy, R.E.B.T, or other alternative forms of therapy/counseling, Body language analysis, psychic methods and psychic phenomena, new age spiritual methods like witchcraft, psychic, mediums(communicating to ghosts/spirits/deceased loved ones and so on...), meditation, spiritual technics, Yoga for some time, occult methods like scrying on a crystal ball or black mirrors, soul traveling, astral projection, and many other sub fields within the supernatural/paranormal categories like Big Foot and other Cryptids, astrology, Chinese medicine and might as well Chinese anything to do with Chi or vital points, and many more historical methods and fields mainstream science considers outdated and 'woowoo'. IMO, based on many developmental factors like Spiral Dynamics stages of development(by Don Beck and Clare Graves) cognitive and moral development, personality types/traits(Myers Briggs personality types modal and the big five personality traits modal), 9 stages of ego development(by Jane Loevinger), Architypes(by Carl Jung), Integral Theory's other lines of development in personal life to societal domains(by Ken Wilbur), other ideological beliefs indoctrinated from cultural programming, family upbringing, and the information ecology we as consumers intake via news, radio, TV programs, online videos, shorts, social media feeds, and many information points that big companies manufacture consent from the masses and engineer conspicuous consumption for. Based on many of these factors I consider people who too quickly insult a person or a given field as 'pseudoscience' as immature minded and ignorant that science itself has hard and soft categories of science. For example, I don't consider body language analysis as a 'pseudoscience' but rather within the 'soft science' category which is similar to the humanities, psychology, sociology and sciences that focuses on qualitative research, approaches and methods/methodology/epistemology/ontology, and anyone slipping in the assumption that because it's not like hard sciences like engineering, technologies, chemistry, biology, mathematics, or any of those sciences that focuses on quantitative research, approaches and methods/methodology/epistemoloy/ontology, are basically misinforming the public when they label and critic a field as 'pseudoscience', just like this video here: Which IMO is a bit ignorant, immature and generalizes too much. Share your thoughts and feelings on times when scientists, or ironically 'pseudoscientists' like in YouTube, actually IMO dogmatic and deluded debunk skeptics with serious hubris problems,

@Merkabah Star I know right? this thread in a nutshell:

@zazen Okay, for this specific case I will have to clarify this. Historically in war, especially in siege warfare, typically with the invading force and less of the defending force, attacking supply lines, food and water sources, is advantageous because siege warfare is war of attrition, and difficult to wage if supply lines keep getting attacked and shortages. Plenty of historical examples of how brutal siege warfare can be for both armies and how eventually they resort to trying to starve each other. This is the bigger broader context. Now, in the smaller specific context, Israel's justification will try to sound similar to the above, to deprive HAMAs of supply lines, food and water, to hopefully starve them out, but in giving this explanation Israel will never include in their explanation how this would effect the Gazan or West Bank civilian population getting increasingly homeless by the days because of this, plus bombing buildings and shelters.

@Nivsch If you say so...

Reminds me of this rap beef and diss tracks between Royce da 5'9 and Lupe Fiasco and Mickey Factz. Royce is like Israel with USA Eminem: and everyone else, pro Palestinians and international countries against them are like the two other rappers here: and The situations parallel with each other here.

@zazen I can't imagine history will overlook this conflict, and how ridiculous the justification are from them.

@Merkabah Star Arguably one side is more appalling than the other.

@Merkabah Star Of course, because of A.I.P.A.C Israel lobby in the USA, plus the anti-Semite card they can pull out whenever they want to smear a critic. Bunch of dogmatic nut cases. I promise you, history will not be kind to them.

@Lyubov Which is why I think it maybe necessary for them to send in some US military in that area. They will still show support for Israel, but US presence in Gaza/West Bank would maybe make IDF think twice over carpet bombing buildings too much?

@Leo Gura, @Carl-Richard, @Space and other mods, and also users here, your opinions on this video? IMO, I thought about this, but I consider it probably a better USA strategy, since they're allies with Israel, why don't they get directly involved in this conflict? Why don't Biden send some USA military units and establish a base near Gaza/West Bank, to both signal officially a coalition between them and Israel, but in secret a military presence in Gaza/West Bank would force IDF to limit their bombing attacks on buildings? I think the 'prime directive' here from USA should have been put aside and they should have been more involved militarily, at least to both check and control IDF aggression, but also to help preserve social infrastructure for Palestine?

@mmKay At least the main takeaway from this is to dress smartly, with a suit or something sophisticated, you might get help, but I wouldn't do this in the ghettos or hoods, a gang banger might help to confiscate your goods.

@mmKay And this is why in the UK we consider Liverpool having loonies. Crazy bunch of people in Liverpool, and while I do expect some bystander effect there, didn't know it was this bad.

Bystander effect various from region to region, and is universal at this point. Example in China: and and from his POV:

@kenway Guarantee no pro Israel will contemplate this seriously, due to distortion, denial, and their ego's attachments, ideological beliefs indoctrinated, their self biases and preferences challenged, their social and cultural programming, their psychology and personality, their cognitive and moral frameworks established in their worldview would get challenged, and the values indoctrinated into them getting challenged. Most people don't like getting challenged and opening their minds like this when the objective situation makes both sides close their minds down for survival of their minds. Also, hard to visualize or imagine in big number scales, already estimate of 100-200 objects is hard to imagine, as Dunbar number theory would suggest here. Humans don't do well with imagining 1,000,000, or 100,000, or even 10,00 and 1,000, but around 100-200 is feasible.

@mw711 I think he meant to ask you to provide the first picture you fed the A.I or maybe he meant show us the first picture the A.I generated not the hundredth one.

@mw711 OMG, that is an impressive drawing from the A.I image generator, putting aside my hate for it and A.I programs as of late. It really reminds me of this video by Bob Gymlan, it's really fascinating, and notice that it doesn't matter epistemically or metaphysically, even evolutionarily speaking whether an alien should or should not have a tail @Leo Gura:

@zazen @kenway True, but I'm glad it's all recorded for posterity, because the more they record the more they incriminate themselves, the more sins they will keep bearing, the heavier the toll in karma they will have to pay in the future. No way the world will forget this, and no way they're getting scot free. It's truly disgusting of a cycle this is, seems like the only way is more down, more into a sunk cost fallacy that'll be fatal to them. And all this because they crucified a homeless looking wise man for kicking a rich person's table...😔

The internet can be both helpful and evil:

Oh, and for those reading, Don Beck, co-author of Spiral Dynamics, did in the past try to use Spiral Dynamics to explain, understand and resolve this conflict.

@Karmadhi I agree, that's a great start.

@Karmadhi Wait a minute, are you more on the pro Palestinian side? Why are you trying to argue with me when I also lean there a bit? Was it the more centrist takes?

@Karmadhi Sure, and I'd be curious to hear how you'd suggest the Ukraine/Russia military, or the IDF and HAMMAs how to fight their war.

@Karmadhi I can't posit a suggestion on how to minimize civilian casualties. Maybe taking the war slower and being more careful in it's military operations, but then again even if the utmost caution is done, IDF and HAMAs gunfire will still result in a few civilians dying. War is just fucked up for any side involved.