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@Carl-Richard I did not say anything at all about copying Leo, and nothing to indicate how you are comparing him.

@Max_V Fair enough.

@Carl-Richard The differences are vast, starting with how they both are actualizing their life purposes, the professions they have chosen, where they're at on a stage, and what development they are at.

@Carl-Richard Not quite there yet. Mostly at stage yellow, with some elements of stages turquoise and green. He's able to do therapy with his niche being gamers and streamers, but he is not radical enough to expose his clients to stage turquoise materials, in fact, his methods are mostly from stage orange psychotherapy with some elements of stage green thinking, but he is able to elevate partially to stage green clients.

@Max_V Which is why it is better in the serious emotional problems sub-forum. It's there that there is a higher probability of a depressed person going through serious mental and emotional problems that can view it, but a lower probability of that type of person being here. In this sub-forum, you are expected to share very high consciousness material here, material that is at stage yellow to turquoise. Depending on what moral, cognitive development and at what stage your worldview and you are as an ego at, the value is highly relative,

What makes this high consciousness material? The ultimate function of depression isn't even discussed in the video, only some relative thinking patterns and some contexts related to it. Sad to hear a streamer suicided himself though, but there's more of an involved process that comes with suicide than simply reducing depression as the sole factor. I think this is better at the serious emotions section than here.

Update: I've experienced a higher level of visualization I've ever experienced so far in my life. The colors, shapes, sounds, and my mental body in the mindscape is getting more resolution. I've also experienced greater concentration and mindfulness around me. We're now able to communicate much longer, have better interactions, and I've made in this mindscape a room with a spiritual object that I've had a samadhi experience outside of my body now I samadhi into but on the inside. I've read some accounts of people having samadhi experiences with other people, aka collapsing the duality of otherness/oneness, so this is what I'm putting some time and energy into.

Anesthesia is interesting. I still remember the effects 20 years ago. While under for dental work, I dreamed I was spitting out my teeth and walking around in a street mall. It was so confusing because it was so real. Consciousness is amazing.

@DrewNows Astrology for the win!

@ivankiss I've listened to many genres of music, including heavy metal, and this group I do like how they handled the flow of the instruments and the vocals, very unusual rhythm. It takes a strong, musically matured ear to listen to that, so I'm not surprised if most people here will struggle through it lol!

@Scholar Holy shit. I hope the copper is ok.

@Parththakkar12 1. I agree with the lockdowns, because it does slow down the spread of the virus, but with martial law, I say it depends. If a country's populace is still conducting wide-spread social gatherings despite government issuing lockdown, I think that before martial law, the government should enforce more police enforcement firstly because involving the military too early does more psychic stress to the populace. Martial law should be considered if on top of not reducing social gatherings, that there are escalating protests, especially rioting and looting. I think context-sensitive to enforcement. 2. Masks are great to have if you yourself have the virus and wouldn't want to spread it and does offer some protection for yourself. Depending on the resources of a country, there should be more consideration on more than just wearing masks but on supplying more equipment on red zones and zones likely to be hit harder. Context-sensitive enforcement. 3. I agree with this point. Personally, I already have a habit of washing my hands which helps prevent not just COVID but other diseases from spreading. I think this is important as a habit for most people. Keep yourself clean! The government should figure out a program for indoctrinating this in. 4. I'm divided on this point. I say I agree because I know that I can tolerate the loneliness and any other mental stresses that come with isolation because I have hobbies and activities like yoga, chi-gong, meditation, concentration, contemplation, self-inquiry, reading, advanced visualization techniques, and so on. I believe you are responsible for your mental health, and I understand that a majority would be scarce and diverse in how they handle loneliness and mental stresses so I think isolation is worth the risk, but this is relative. 5. If you have expertise in financing, economics, and investing then you could negotiate potential risks. 6. Personally, I think it should be mandatory. The majority will take the vaccines though. 7. I think if they stuck with the facts, and less fear-mongering, the better. 8. I agree that for the time being, censorship is best right now because these conspiracy theories are just stockpiling more fear. I'm not an expert on these issues so my explanation might be shallow.

@Onemanwolfpac I agree. I forgot the name of a fallacy in philosophy, but the fallacy works exactly like that, where you set up a weak target and draw the attack into a strong target.

@Leo Gura This adds to the other video as well. From what I saw, the officer during the struggle warned the suspect that he'll use a taser, and the suspect still resists. If they only had some form of ground combat training, they really could've immobilized him. I can't remember the exact video, but it showed two London/ European officers being man-handled by a resisting guy either high on drugs or something else, but those officers could've easily joint-locked the guy into submission.

@Consept No, and while I try to understand another's perspective, frankly the majority of people don't care about anyone else's perspectives, as perfectly demonstrated in this thread, with this back and forth you're all having with Leo. It all depends on if your life experiences are tied to being with police and authority figures, or being antagonized by police and authority figures? This greatly shapes your main perspective on this issue, because that perspective is your way of life, way of survival of YOU.

@Parththakkar12 Good point. A Russian Systema teacher I once had said a very similar thing to what you said, without undergoing training that simulates exactly what you would deal with, don't expect to react perfectly, expect to still react uncleanly. I've had many instances while learning martial arts that I was still clumsy in my reaction times and executions of my techniques and defended myself against a person using a knife on me. It wasn't a clean situation but I was able to subdue the person. In your thought experiment, I think it depends on the person with the gun if he had any training or no training. I personally would draw and give warning to the mugger. No sign of acknowledging my warning, verbally or non-verbally, and still closing the distance, I would issue the warning again. Still no response, and 7-5 meters away from my gun, I'd adjust my aim for the person's legs. If he draws any weapon from his pocket, then I'm gonna shot. Just because, in this case, he draws a taser, and it's non-lethal, he can still stun me, disable my defenses, and not only frisk me and get my wallet, but my gun, and what's to stop him from blowing my head off? I've seen his face...

@Consept That's the power of stereotype and projection, don't expect most people wouldn't do the same to you. Depends on the type of dog. If it's a chihuahua or similar sized dog, I would let it go. But a bulldog, or a similar/bigger sized dog, bred and trained typically to guard places and attack people, then I would shot to disable, or if the situation was much dire, shoot to kill. If I see someone running away from me, with my stolen weapon, turning around to fire it, I would shot. And I expect you to do the same/similar to me if you find me in such a state of consciousness that I would harm you or others. I can definitely agree with you that further refinement of training would be needed for the police force. For example, that officer failed to secure a rear-choke holed onto the drunk guy. I've done martial arts training and can tell you that proper application can de-escalate the situation.

'seemed' is the keyword here. We can only know so much in a video, or in a person's direct experience, that we cannot assume anymore, otherwise, we are projecting way too much. That's fine reading stuff on him, but that's looking back to the past. Try to bring yourself into that police's position, as the situation is unfolding. As a hypothetical, you're the cop that the guy has stolen the taser from, and now you're giving chase, but you lose him. A day later, that same guy used your weapon to do evil to another person. How would you feel then, as the cop that lost his weapon?

Or, he's a sociopath and lied convincingly to police. Notice how quickly he escalated the situation. We don't know much from one video, but that's the limited window of that reality.

The naivety of people defending the drunk guy that stole a taser from a cop is mind-boggling. Some suggest that the cops should have let him go to apprehend him later - without thinking of the consequences of that, i.e now he has a taser, and not knowing much of him (serial killer, rapist, psychopath, sociopath...) now he has a new tool to hurt other people that happen to be in his path. Imagine him using that taser to stun and rape a woman later on that day, or break into somebody's home, assuming the cops give chase, and now a hostage situation unfolds. See how the situation has spiralled more out of control? And check your conflation here between the recent events of the George Floyd case and this situation. Too much generalizing and distortion going on here, too much black and white thinking about this situation. The reality is what it is on video, nothing more, nothing less!

@Onemanwolfpac Yeah, crazy times we're living. Blame games, police brutality, race-baiting, political power struggles, cold warfares, and cover-ups of power grabs. We definitely need to meditate our thoughts on these issues away. Otherwise, we'd go insane, one way of the other.

@Onemanwolfpac There definitely are cases where it is clear to use force proportionate to the threat. That's terrible, to survive but be paralyzed from the neck down. We're definitely not appreciating what police officers go through on our behalf, the type of people they deal with.

@Yog Nice! Everyone here, regardless of what side you take, be careful of playing the 'centrist/middle ground' position. If you empathize with the police in this situation, or the drunk, resisting person, that's your moral/cognitive development and level of consciousness. Leo Gura is pointing to a new trend now, with newer traps to it, and that new trap is 'police bashing' which is another form of demonization. Same with George Floyd and that police officer. While what happened to him was 'awful', he has a criminal background of years of victimizing other members of his community, and he himself brought this upon himself. While the police officer applied excessive force, some percentage of the police have personality traits and degrees of psychopathy necessary for policing others. Otherwise, why would God be foolish to allow for such types of people in the first place? There was a video where the Gracies were training some police officers Brazilian Jiujitsu and countering attempts of gun disarming. Maybe police officers need better martial arts training. I definitely agree there needs to be better training overall. So, before demonizing the police, remember where your level of security has come from, and appreciate why your immediate environment isn't turned into a hellhole instead. Don't overlook how you're benefiting from police work.

@Roy Yes, it's a long process, because of this deep desire within the masses to pedestal a powerful force of authority. Even if we throw away the state, the masses will quickly fill that void with another thing to worship. Whether it's a religious god, or a nation/country, or a new form of state, or the internet/media,

From what I've seen so far, the George Floyd case was once a local case, now gone pandemic, and every black community, outside of the states even, is protesting, and to a small degree looting and rioting. Trump, as usual, tries to leverage the anger for more power, but it appears that it has somewhat backfired. Now, that American state is going to pass on legislation for police defunding and dismantling. The internet is a powerful thing. To me, all this is a projection from the masses, their pent-up hate, frustration, and jealousy, including black communities, onto Trump and the police system. Yet, everybody is overlooking that the state, the new god the masses created, has many fingers and is happy to play whatever role the masses project onto it. Soon enough, these issues will resolve in whatever way, and the state survives, whatever the outcome. What's more concerning, is that these projections are distractions, from the collective looking inwards. It's so easy for groups to look outward, for external changes. Pulling down statues, shooting rubber bullets at protesters, burning and looting stores, throwing tear gas at people, dismantling the police, protesters disrupting public transport, and so on. When will they turn inwards? Past sages, including the Dalai Lama, have warned the masses, time and time again. It seems it is only a matter of time, and a matter of how many will survive in the end, to then realize the mass projections they had created, are really just distractions. When?