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@Willie I highly doubt the legitimacy, and the timing of such a report.

@Origins Do you have any proof of this? Otherwise, it's just conspiracy.

@Opo That's right. A person whose state is commonly apathy will treatvthe situation as a typical one. Derek looking down, and around after shows me that this is normal for him. While states and emotions related to apathy have their proper place and use, this is the one that does more harm than good. Or Derek is a psychopath. I don't think it's accurate to say he's racist, because you'd have to care about that difference in race. Psychopaths don't care for the most part, unless it effects their image to others, as this quite a large frame of reference for the psychopath to lose, like he'd pretend to be racist in a racist group to maintain membership.

@neutralempty You have know idea how much pain Leo is in when he's diet was mostly plant baesd. If the carnivore diet offers him some relief, he has every right to pursue the diet short term. If the carnivore diet, by your logic, is causing him pain in his gut, then he would be in so much pain he couldn't make that blog video throughout, and would have said so. What Leo is going through is a good example that human bodies are different and integrate foods differently. I happy that he's found some temporary relief from this, and hope this new approach to his elimination diet will heal him fully.

@Bogdan Is all your research only videos?

If the carnivore diet is working for Leo, then it's working for Leo. I don't see why Vegans need to be triggered over this. Leo himself said it's temporary, and will be introducing vegetables and fruits slowly, eliminating types that flare his conditionz and keeps the ones that don't. Is it just because people who are short to long term vegans have weaker egoes?

@krockerman So, you're taking an agnostic position to the issue of false accusations? If so, which side are you more leaning to, the falsely accused, or the accusor? Firstly, rape is a disgusting act of crime, yet I disagree on this being the most horrific because there are far more damaging crimes than rape, for example child murders that leave traumatized families, kidnapping and torture, and also crimes that scale to groups such as genocide, pyramid schemes that wipe out life savings and cult like dynamics. Secondly, this sounds like you are leaning more on men being falsely accused, and that women are more to blame for tuis. Is this a correct assumption on my part? If this is true, then you can't Maintain your agnostic position. If this is not true, then why do you put more blame on woman for false accusations? Do you have the link that shows the statistics on men falsely accused of rape?

@Tetcher I gotten that impression as well, seeing him kneel on his neck like it's a typical day for him, very much apathy. The problem with Crowder is that this was not his main intent, to accurately show how to properly retrain someone on the prone position because if this was his main intent he would be more controlling and directing the guy acting as the police to apply his knee on his neck exactly like the photo. Also have other people take notes. He would be more serious with this and test it out more properly. Otherwise, why would the demo be done poorly? Maybe it's because Crowder wants to appeal to racists and extremists of the alt right as the main goal of this demo? If he really wanted to assess this, then he should go to this guy for the demo of properly restraining somebody on prone position.

@Tetcher Steve Crowders's assessment of George Floyds death and situation is impartial and at best lazy. He should have gone to this person to help him test out his theory. This man knows how to properly retrain individuals resisting an arrest, and would properly provide a more accurate assessment of the situation with George Floyd's death, and show Crowder proper application of force. Might as well have this person training police as well. Fantastic demonstration of restraints. He's also a pretty good practitioner of russian systema and other systems of combat.

@Parththakkar12 I would say it depends on who is more persuasive, the accused or the accusor. If either one has greater status, money, and communication skill, the higher one tends to control how they are perceived in public, and the lower one tends to not be viewed favorable in the public eye. To some extent, we do have case studies and developments in psychology that understand why the false accusations occur. For example, sociopathy now is a spectrum, that is exhibited both in men and women, and that women who have innate sociopathic traits are more likely to falsely accuse anyone and blame anything but themselves, which also means they can falsely accuse their partners of rape. Similarly, women who are psychopaths are more effective at exploiting other men and women due to them having to study human behaviour far more to make up for their lower emotional intelligence. Like sociopathy, psychopathy has degrees as well, and both are also influenced by outside factors as well. The main issue is that there's not that much incentives for court systems to have harsher sentences of false accusation relative to the crime the person is falsely accused of.

@Emerald I will address your points, as you were quoting my post to another user I addressed, not you. You are initiating this exchange with me, so I'll respond and clarify once. I'm speaking about some men who are falsely accused of raping a woman, and having to deal with repercussions of such allegations on their family and community, and I'm not speaking for all men, or for guilty men, only for the small percentage who are later proven to be innocent after years of jail time, and some won't have decent lives later on. I'm not speaking about all women who come forward, to then be accused of the crime of false accusation. The point of that post is to get him to imagine what it's like dealing with a false accusation hanging over your head for others to see, so I see no reason why you needed to interject here in our dialogue. Your second point about a community preferring one narrative over the other is irrelevant, because I don't know what community you are referring to, in which country, in which culture, in which society, and the epistemic framework of which legal system applies. This is left too ambiguous that I can't properly provide a response, and also this point is misaligned with my dialogue with that other user, and my position that some men are falsely accused. I'm well aware that cultures, societies and communities shape individuals and laws enforced, and that there are differences from country to country, culture to culture, so I see no reason why you should lump me with sexists and misogynistic users here, and no reason why you belittle my understanding, when I'm only focused on the small percentage of men falsely accused of rape, by a lying woman. Why do I have to understand that ALL women who come forward will get falsely accused of the crime of false accusation, when I'm in dialogue with another user about the small percentage of men who are falsely accused of the crime of rape, coming from one woman lying and taking advantage of social movements like Metoo and feminism? You see, my main gripe is localized only to the few women that take advantage of social movements to snare a guy, and take away half or more of his property and money regardless of lasting damages and repercussions to family and community. The topics on political issues are seperate to the false rape problem here, but I will comment and say that political movements like metoo and feminism are great to have for women. I have no gripe over such movements, only to the relevant issue for me: that a guy gets falsely accused of the crime of rape, by a lying woman. My main issue is not how all or most men get falsely accused by all or most women. Don't frame me as a misogynist generalizing, I'm focused on the cases that are relevant to being falsely accused of a crime you didn't commit, and having to deal with later social ramifications of such misjudgment by court systems. How does society compensate for victims of false accusations? I'm not addressing this rock analogy because I made myself clear above, as it's not aligned with my position that a small percentage of men are being falsely accused of the crime of rape by a few women. The main issue is an innocent man having to deal with a false accusation and stigma over his head, jail time, and harder living in a community that views you and people related to you as vile, when it's in fact not true and is a lie. The issue is not about rocks, and comparing risk factors between men and women. I repeat, the main issue is that a small percentage of men are being falsely accused of the crime of rape by women who are lying. In conclusion, I can't speak for other male users here about their positions on the topic of false accusation by a woman onto a man, either for monetary gain or selfish motives. The aim of my position, and the thread, is about solving the problem of flalse accusations, and answering the kew question: How does a society handle false accusations, and compensate victims of such false allegations? However, you seem to lump me with such types of people like sexists and misogynists, and assume without any substantial proof things about my character you don't know. How is this any different from lyers that falsely accuses a person for crimes they did not commit? Please be mindful of such presumptions. For example, I'm also assuming things about you in regards to your interjection between me and another user, which could alsk be false or true, so from those I've decided to not continue future dialogues involving you. I hope you also assume you do the same to me, to not involve me in discussions with little substance, and to not frame me in a bad light. Have a good day.

@Gesundheit Unless I'm mistaken, but this is one example. There are far worse ones that can't be posted.

@Gesundheit Ok, the culture shapes societal views of men and women. So, what if the guy got accused of rape, gets jailed for 20 years, and is found out to be innocent? How does that society help this man transition back into life in one of it's communities? He was falsely accused, found innocent, but spent 20 years in jail.

@The0Self This is getting closer to the main issue! Great, now where do we go from here?

@Gesundheit The maun question then, is how do we sort out the false accusation from ones that are genuine? How does society handle false accusations? None of the other topics, just what does it take to stop the fales rape problem?

@Parththakkar12 The False Rape Problem. Can I get a cookie?

@Parththakkar12 Men shouldn't have to go through what this guy went through. For 20 years. Jesus christ.

@Parththakkar12 And I know how fucked up it gets, having to deal with a false accusation, going through the court proceedings. We definitely should have a collective conversation about this, as this issue deserves a spot among many other societal and individual offences. The fact that courts have a larger gap of charges for false accusations vs real crime is bad, as this isn't enough to deter anyone from making false accusations.

@Parththakkar12 Also, be more careful if you're dating after dealing with a break up, or death of a loved one, as this opens you up to those who can manipulate you into getting into an intimate relationship, marrying, and filling for divorce for the money.

@Parththakkar12 By protecting yourself proactively, you avoid the flase accusations for the most part, and avoid most crazy women. There definitely should be laws that give harsher sentences for those who falsely accuse, comparable to the crime in question if true. I'm with you in part about dealing with false accusations, it's not easy, and getting jailed for nothing is worse, as that is harder to get jobs, and live locally. The trick here, is are there more incentives against behaviours of falsely accusing people?

@Parththakkar12 For the most part, so the best place for men to avoid being falsely accused, is being mindful of surroundings and who you are communicating to. Mostly look at their faces when talking, and scan their body for deceit signals. It's a weird world for men to live in at the moment.

@ted73104 Jesus, if this is true then the entire thread was derailed for the most part.

@Parththakkar12 Ah, in this case the guy was flirting too soon. He should have cold read her body language before approaching, and have a normal conversation first to get a feel of the woman's state and personality. Signs of deceit and a off feeling of her personality, that's the time to leave.

@Gesundheit Give it a go, try to imagine what it's like dealing with false accusers and accusations against you. Have you ever been falsely accused of anything in your life?

@Gesundheit Imagine having to live being accused of a crime you didn't commit, and how your community thinks about you and your family. How would you think and feel in general?