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@BlueOak And that model would too fade away with the changing times.

If this is the kind of shit that happens when a famous person dies, or when someone that has gave a positive impact to the world in some way, or was a good innovative creator, count me out of thw journey. Maybe because of how the OP has framed Don Beck's passing, how the topic and users in general made it about Don Beck politics of being a Trump Supporter, that he trademarked Spiral Dynamics, mislabbled Ken Wilbur, that he's getting shade and hate. It's really interesting to see how we're more interested in seeing the faults of this dead person than the good he may have left behind. Let's start over, change the framework and introduce a hypothetical to help you understand why I find this dynamic disturbing in this thread. Maybe, if this is too challenging to understand intellectually and emotionally because Don Beck's a boomer trump Supporter, substitute Don Beck for your role modal in life, and see how you feel when that idol of yours passes. Now how do you feel when people give shade onto your idol? Too difficult to imagine? How about your family member that died, and somebody gives shade to that loved one of yours? Doesn't feel nice, does it? This is what I'm pointing out in you when you have a knee jerk reaction to give hate, and be petty and ignore the good of what the person has done. That's pettiness. Not a nice feeling is it? The only reason this is acceptable now is because you don't have a close relationship with Beck, but when someone close to you dies, it doesn't feel right. Imagine still talking like this in this thread, but Beck's loved ones and friends saw what you wrote. How'd you think they feel? How'd you feel, if I gave you a camera recording showing what you wrote and said about Don Beck, and showing their reactions to you, and showing your reactions to them? Doesn't look good does it?

https://youtu.be/QPRmFJ_U8Ug

It depends. Some situations logic ie more suitable, and in other situations intuition is more suitable. The trap is staying stuck in a viewpoint, like a pragmatic and efficiency lens for example, and claim that logic is unilaterally superior to intuition. That of course isn't always the case, but a person stuck in that view won't be able to grok it's limitation, while a new age/hippie/psychic/medium view can intuit logic's limitations, because their understanding is more right brain in regards to what they're dealing with. Allowing yourself to balance between the two, depending on the situation, is far more important.

@TK2021 , @Leo Gura , drop the feud between you two, don't make me to remind you two this drama is low quality, too. And @Husseinisdoingfine, this is a duplicate thread, stop pretending to not be threading a complicated drama.

@Nilsi And prayer. Prayer is good too.

@Someone here That's fine, just don't rush towards that goal if you can't handle a GF, or still have self esteem, self confidence and self responsibility issues in yourself, and not know what you're getting into, and limit beliefs and fear barriers about relationships. Marriage and raising children really is hard work on your mind and body.

@Benton Nice quotes from Bruce Lee, who's one of many of my role models in my self actualisation journey.

Meanwhile, in a secret silicon valley underground, a mad scientist is designing the next AI that'll one day create the matrix and overtake all of reality, and all culture wars cease to be...

@Someone here I could be wrong, but didn't Ghandi in his younger years payed prostitutes to sleep next to him, just to increase his self discipline? Be more like that, that you are grounded in your purpose and masculinity that you can sleep next to a naked woman without having sex. And step by step, no rush. Rushing will backfire at you really badly.

RIP, co creator of Spiral Dynamics.

Rest in peace Don Beck?

The disrespect in this thread is abysmal. A person has passed away, and here we are focused on talking about him and his work in a negative light? Everyone has human faults, but they also have good sides to them. Let's take the time and instead of talking about him trademarking Spiral dynamics or siding with Trump or miscatagorizing Ken Wilber, let's talking about what good he did in this world, like co creating the spiral dynamics modal first. Let's give a minute of silence please.

@Manusia Prey, to God, or yourself, for the strength to forgive them, and integrate their faults and 'evils' into you, because that is your shadow you are projecting onto them.

This a good rap music to me: It's these types of rap music I'd like to hear, that cover some topics like the ego and spirituality, and darkness. Yes, there's some language in there that still echoes back and has roots in gang and rap culture, but it's these types of music that's nice to listen too. Nice beats and instrumentals as well, kind of gave me a rock rap vibes with it. Hopefully rap music evolves away from stage red towards stage blue/orange/green type of music, it's getting redundant when rap's all about the streets or gangs or whatever.

@integral Not just the use of guns or training to use guns, but about what guns are, the history of guns, how guns are made, safety measures, training in managing and maintaining a gun, also the statistics of them all, from local grade to military grade guns, all the facts and stats from left to right wing politics, all the pros and cons of gun ownership. make all Americans learn about guns as mandatory for your education. Doesn't matter if your traditional/conservative/patriotic, or moderate or democratic/liberal/progressive/socialistic, all must learn about guns. Learn so much about guns that it actually reduces the need to have guns. Same with teaching and educating people about sexuality and genders, from grade 1. Saves a lot of confusion latter on.

@Thought Art Compassion for the victims, the shooters, and the polarization that this gun culture is in the USA, which is more a stage turquoise value, where spirituality is more valued. funny feelings in your chest, also called love. In tier 2, which comprises a small group and a small percentage of individuals, at that level, they are deeply aware of the depth and complexity of fixing a problem, like gun culture of America, at least vastly aware of it than those in the lower stages, who are not aware of this complexity and depth of the issue. The gulf of understanding and awareness between tier 1 to 2 is like that of a pond to an ocean, that vast and alien.

@ShardMare Simple, putting aside my mission statement and the goals I listed there which are numerous. I simply invade cinemas and watch some movies, and play arcade games the entire summer and parts of autumn. This is the logical consequence of being shut in for the majority of the winter and spring. Time to cinema flick and game

@Thought Art Tier 2 insight would be to have compassion.

This is a good video on rap: However, it misses the meta point here. I can give the counter argument, based on Spiral Dynamics and integral theory. Here's the hypothetical: Imagine having slightly different values, cognition, morality, personality, states and life experiences. Now imagine that you have different cognitive development, which is more autistic and mild schizophrenic, that you mostly interpret what's around you more binarily and literally than metaphorically and abstractly, and you listen to your favourite rapper, in a diss track. Imagine you actually believe every word that is said in that track, and you end up attacking the targeted person in that diss. Are you telling me that it's ok to let these words incite violence, with little legal ramifications to the author?

@Someone here I'm 25 . I just yesterday switched my career from studying philosophy in university to studying business. Because many people adviced me that I can't make good money and decent career with a philosophy degree . So even tho I adore philosophy but I had to sacrifice my passion for money ?. Now I'm pretty sexually hyper person .I get horny so easily . I'm kinda addicted to masturbation and watching porn. But I have decided..enough is enough . I need to get off my ass and stop doing lame ass beta lazy shit and get my life together. I want to marry . To satisfy my sexual cravings and also my emotional craving to own a house and have a family .you know raising kids and all that cool shit . Now I'm not graduating in less than 5 years .because I changed my field to business. So I'm starting from scratch. But I'm in fact looking for a job while completing my uni degree . I want to know how realistic is to think about getting married at this life situation. And what is required for me to get married ASAP. There is a barrier of time and hard work . I can only have these things in the future, not in the now . I believe if I let loose and just lose myself in the present moment, that I will never ever achieve something significant in my life . The problem is I misuse the present moment by engaging in short-term hits of dopamine,you know..stuff that gives you instant pleasure but fuck you up in the long term like smoking and watching porn and wasting a lot of time on online forum mentally masturbating about useless shit lol. If anyone have enough experience in this field. Please give some piece of advice . Thanks ? Are you sure you want a marriage, and family? that's 15+ years of even more hard work. Not only do you now have to take care of your wifey, which is one difficulty due to differences in psychological development, but be committed to staying in one place to raise your children. Are you prepared to help raise your baby son/daughter? To wake up in the middle of the night to clean diapers? Ready to buy addition baby stuff like the cradle, cram, baby toys, baby food? Not to mention increase in stress in managing crying, cuz your baby/toddler's gonna throw a tantrum at high volume, sometimes frequently per day. Not only is it expensive to raise a baby to toddler to early adolescence and late teens, but it's mentally and emotionally taxing. So taxing, that if I had supernatural powers to show you clearly as you being a dad, you wouldn't be one. Seriously. Of course, there's the lovely experiences of being a couple and being a parent, but it really takes a matured ego to handle all that. Judging from how you write, you're not ready. Sorry.

@whoshearts It's probably more that this forum, the majority of users are a bit left leaning, and some are spiritualists, and JP is more right and leans conservative and a little bit traditionalist/religious, so those ridiculing him are ridiculing their projections they are not aware of.

@Rokazulu I also agree with these, to be aware of what our fear response is, before censoring it. I don't like seeing extremely graphic imagery or sounds, so some cases seems like censorship could be justified?

@Rokazulu Of course, but I think it's worth a try, maybe not only with censorship or cancelation, which I'd leave as kind of a last resort for people deserving of cancelation. Have a listen to Eminem's slim shady mode, during the Everlast drama, listen to that last diss track from Eminem. Is that not justification enough for a state to step in and either censor, cancel, or whatever. Ridiculous it all started due to either Eminem or Everlast passing by the other, not saying hi or acknowledging the other. Tragic, but on the other hand we get to experience high level disses from Emcees. A question remains though: If part of those threats actualized though, would that justify censorship and cancelation? I assume your are more against censorship? I'm all for harmonious culture and holistic learning of other perspectives. I'm just of an age where I'm picky with my information intake even in leisure and entertainment mode, maybe I'm in the greens mode In your hypothetical of Call of Duty, I agree that there should be fair warnings and disclaimers to the content. I think the music industry does have that when they where broadcasting rap music, like there's more mainstream rap, but at midnight there's adult sex crazy rap or whatever. I do think that the state and the industry should probably introduce more regulation cuz some music even in mainstream are sexual and violent. While I do agree with your hypothetical, what about the cases where listening to sexual and violent rap music had a strong correlation to increases in gun crime and sexual assaults? Not even a hypothetical, I can list you hundreds of cases where a person or a group committed crimes that are related to what they listen to. A real life example, not of rap, but it involved John Lennon, whose music was misinterpreted by a person, that incited some kind of violence in him that it motivated him enough to shoot him. In such cases, does this justify censorship and cancelation? If not that, an investigation?

@Someone here If I'm forced to answer whether the majority, or minority, should rule, I'd say the person or group whose most skilled and qualified to be in that position of power. Practically speaking, the more you know, the more life experiences you have, the more richer your mind is with it's many internal systems, the more states you can access, the more developed you are the better ruler/leader you can be.