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@Thought Art Okay. Consider the A.I. program evolves fast enough to obfuscate your ability to construct visions, and to receive higher forms of intelligence, wisdom and worldly purpose. See how your lower self would rather use A.I. programs to do almost everything in your life, and how much boring and lazy it would make you feel in the end. Does it bother you a bit?

@Girzo Then you ultimately are not passionate about the work you are doing or are obfuscating my proposed scenario or misunderstood my point intentionally. For someone who is extremely passionate about making stories and the writing process, for example, the last thing the person wants is something stealing their purpose away from them, stealing away their ability to create stories or take away the process of the writing, regardless of if it ultimately makes life easier for them. Another is people into fighting and martial arts, they will not stand for robots taking away what they are really passionate about. Same with music makers, same with other fields, provided that the field is their strongest point of passion. There are those with a higher standard for work ethic and purpose and would not tolerate too much use of the A.I. replacing what is really important. If you don't feel strongly compelled to defend your LP from being taken away, then it's not your LP.

@DrugsBunny Savor the brain freeze.

@Aaron p First of all, I'm a moderate conservative, so my takes are coming from that angle. JP, BS are good debaters in their respective positions, but I actually consider Destiny to be far superior in debating and arguing positions and executing many techniques that frame opponents in a bad light and have solid rhetoric and optics. There are many more far skilled debaters out there. Because of my exposure to Actualized.org material, and my development in value system, cognition, morality, personality, state of being, life experiences and other areas of development I can see JP's and BS's strengths and weaknesses and properly contextualize which of their talents are better here or there. Libertarianism, unfortunately, from my view, works only if you have a small government, that you and your group own, and enforce actively through might, which makes your ruling an authoritarian government, or a Authoritarian Regime hybrid. You're better off either being a progressive, or democrat, or Republican, or Conservative or a centrist. Even better, find out what policies you want for yourself and your community and stick to them.

@zurew No, the A.I. program is. @Thought Art Please, no. You should be complimenting the A.I. program for the artwork.

@Girzo He was more focused on the practical costs of letting the A.I. do most of the artwork for you, rather than any metaphysical, epistemic or philosophical views of A.I. art. Just Imagine an A.I programs taking over your job and career, how would you feel and think? How would you survive going forward, after sinking in several years of training for that specific role?

@Razard86 Nothing really to strange about his take. It's the traditionalist/conservative side of JP that's coming out a bit here. No big deal, people's opinions are, at the end of the day, irrelevant, just as much as the opinions of socialists, progressives, lib-dems' takes on the passing of the Queen, irrelevant. This doesn't nullify the psychological values he provides in his field though, it's still that JP has questionable political takes.

Does anyone see how absurd it is to make fun of people, especially when the death is too recent?

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@illusory My personal take, I absolutely agree! It's my value and standards, but you should never call yourself an artist if you haven't actually created the image in the first place. I really hate when people do that, take another artist's image and call it their own under other forms of legal conditions, when technically that art never was created by the person, but was taken and put on videos, websites or other by the person. That's the other feeling I get when I see A.I. doing the drawings instead of you, it's sacrilege to obfuscate your drawing talent to a robot! Whoever disagrees with this strongly, is a leech and a thief and has low standards for being an artist. That said, if anyone still wishes to use A.I. programs for art, I suggest when you feel writer's or creative block, and feeling strongly negative, generate an image, and draw from observation of that image into something else. That's acceptable.

@Arcangelo Plus this one. Is this considered good mod behavior? ? Well, at least with this thread and this situation, we know which stands on which side of the fence, and which is more humane.

@Tahuti A fine example of double standards. A better one would be to talk about the Indus valley civilisation , or the Aztec civilisation instead of Egypt, but I guess you onow what you know at the time.

@Vrubel Agreed, if any of you feel so strongly, go make a separate thread and talk about it, maybe let a week pass to do so. It's just immoral to react like angsty children and froth at the mouth with left progressive and socialistic takes like in this thread when someone with symbolic power in a culture dies. It just doesn't look good at all, and further alienates people from seriously considering leaning left a bit.

@Tudo The Monarchy stuff is what makes the UK more unique than in the USA, even though they're not really the central power of the country. No way is it gonna dissolve anytime soon.

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@LoneWonderer Yeah, it's a bit surprising and disappointing to see. Hopefully this phase goes over quickly.

1. Are any of you creators, or consumers, of Visual Novels? What are your experiences?

Yes, while it's cringe at first to do, with all these false accusations and shit we might have to do something like this lol!

@BipolarGrowth Over working one muscle group too much, without working the other antagonistic muscles is dangerous and can damage a person's posture long term, especially over working the push muscles of the upper body. The main issue is not if there's a lack of mental toughness, although that can be factored later, the main issue is posture being bad, which can later damage joints of that part of the body.

@Fredodoow I'll answer a bit briefly and give an intuitive take of this, with three semi constructed thought examples. I think the main problem with this framing is people misusing the statement of art is subjective to justify their bad art as good art and to nullify all types of critics to it. Another problem is thinking that art is only subjective and there's no objectivity to it. Also, art is not valuable because it lacks any objective standards is a problem too. These three problems are in large due to a person not being able to recognize the many different levels of art existentially speaking, and not catch on the many ways art can be purposed for what and for whom. Also, what makes art considered objective and subjective, is the context in terms of history and catalogued information surrounding that art piece so far for the objectivity of the art piece, along with a person's worldview, psychological development, cognitive and moral development, personality type, mind and body type, states of consciousness and life experiences and other lines of development. For example, look at the three examples below of three scenarios: 1. I have made an abstract painting of a building, that I made. I'm just an abstract painter, with little experience with designing buildings, with some extroversion and whimsicality to my personality. On a whim, with my small team that I care less for in favor for my own art, I blueprint it and construct it into the real world for 100 people to view and go in. However, the building collapses, killing 20, injuring 50, the other 30 are lucky. As I have nearly zero experience being an architect, designing architecture, adhering little to art fundamentals and instead wanted to be radically different, believing my design works because I say so. What? art is subjective, you can't critic my artwork, it's the fault of the other team members, they designed the building in the wrong way. 2. I have predominantly stage orange, with some stage green and yellow values and skills, I am cognitively more aware of myself and other's views and am morally able to understand and empathize with those members more. Due to my introverted personality with some extroversion, more intuitive than logical and visually dominant mind, I made a realistic drawing and painting of a building in my mind first in 3d, before drawing and painting it as an experienced drawer and painter. My state of consciousness is such that I am aware of almost all my design limitations, and the limitations of feedback from my team members, so I adjust to current situations as needed and any feedback for later I file away. As an Architect, with my small team, I design this building into the real world for 100 people to enjoy, and none were hurt by my design, as I have studied other building designs of other artists and engineers and adhered to principles and theory that has worked for many decades for the times in my life that worked. I honor and am aware of art existing as a spectrum between functional art and creative art, and both extremes are in a balancing path. 3. I am an engineer and architect experienced in life. I am far more rationally minded, logical, and values that are even more in stage orange. I am cognitively divergent as I'm autistic and focus on the numbers, visually dominant, introverted personality. I don't get along with most, and my moral compass mostly circles around me and my family and the few friends I have, and not to the rest of the team. As long as the building is functional, I don't care for the aesthetics. Who the hell needs aesthetics? 100 people came to view the building, inside and out. Nobody died, but their feedback was that the building is too simple and bland. I don't care, at least the jobs and functionality are such that nobody died and am not to blame. Try to see, compare and contrast the 3 scenarios, and how the three points of view, view art as. One sees art as purely subjective and uses that to justify bad art decisions and obfuscate responsibility for the harm and deaths of the people in the building. The 2nd perspective recognizes the validity and soundness of art being both functional and aesthetics and makes sure that the people are not only safe but are also mesmerized by the design as well. The 3rd point of view is too rational and too into being logical and engineering to even consider the aesthetics of the building's design. While this view has achieved the safety of all the viewers, this point does not consider the feedback of aesthetics valid, as it cares far more for functionality than pleasing design and leans too heavily to the art objectivity, potentially killing off the creative aspects and possibilities. The aim is to work towards the 2nd person's views more, to realize that art can be both functional and aesthetically pleasing, and to be construct aware and context sensitive to use whichever spectrum more or less, to actively balance. I will definitely come back after reading this some more and contemplating. Does my post make sense on some level?

The stage green monster shadow here is unreal! WTF?! You can say some shit about the royal family, but to say that right after the death of a Queen? Just like that, instant loss of humanity and decency? WOW.

True.

Interesting video

@Someone here Why so many questions? Are you thirsty for a quest of knowledge, or to quench one's need for leggings, horny conquest? Hard to comprehend, that every bend and ends you go, every moral, is relative to every mortal? Morbid, I know, to consider, that morals are relative than absolute. The morals of a creature alien stage beige, to tribes like the Viking stage purple/red, Native Americans stage purple to red, businesses like hip hop industry and oil to tabaco industries staged orange and some blue, hippie communes, SJWs, leftie leaners, a pinch of orange to a dollop of stage green, guaranteed to make you leap to the greener side of the fence. Meanwhile, Star Trek's stage yellow space systems quite complex, until we discover an alien intelligent hive mind hybrid artificial intelligence, stage turquoise and beyond maybe. I know, so many colors, it's insane this rainbow array of morals like the coral reefs of old, so much so, that these moray eels rather prefer their muralled enclaves as the best for the whole coral reef system, to the death, good grief, ignoring the glaring hole of their whole mental prism they call home. Rather champion their standards, blind bastards, with their double standards and banters making even lib-tards pleasant like strawberry tarts! Technically, historically absolutist morality originally started in every birth and growth of empires/civilizations, to bind their peoples together some more, to bid farewell to older systems that don't work anymore to forward survival agendas way better than before, while keeping the pleasing aspects of those past systems be. So, what would it take, to make these moral nihilists wake up from their denial? Drag a fishing net, by a mile, for a while? Or maybe do a bit of sea mining? How would we develop from my/our morals to higher more inclusive morals? How many mourns of other morals do we need to suffer more? Until we survive the transformation of the globe, as our one true home? Or are we really alone? I don't know, so, we gotta shoulder on forward, warding off evil as we go.

@JTL Amazing, either it's a real image or a deep fake image.