Danioover9000

@BuddhistLover So, with that said, who's the eviler guy: Putin, or Zelensky? Putin, who just wants back the USSR or some semblance of it, or Zelensky, who wants to drag all other countries into this fucking war? I thought Ukrainian and Russian people were Slavic?

@LordFall yes, and much more.

The only disappointing thing is that there's no woman arguing in this issue as well. The irony, two men arguing for abortion, then the one getting pregnant and is at the first order front line of the abortion issue in the first place. Oh, never mind, Destiny is a woman I forgot that.

What are your thoughts and feelings before, during and after watching?

@LordFall He's likely referring to the 9 stages of Ego Development using the words 'construct aware' or 'construction', and he's also implying moral relativism and post modernism being talked for 25 plus years.

Interesting take by Beau:

@LordFall No, apparently from what I've read so far, Poland did an investigation and found that the missiles belonged to Ukraine and are fired by Ukraine and Polish president gave his speech saying it's Ukraine's missile, but Russia is to blame, but it's Ukraine's missile so there won't be article 5, but Zelensky and those working for him, minutes after the impact blamed it 100% that it was Russian missiles, but that's not true.

@Romanov And Ukraine responded to those 100s of Russian missiles, by firing their own. A few Ukrainian missiles missed, and impacted within Polish territory, damaging a building and killing a few Polishes. So, who's to be held accountable for this specific event? Ukraine? Russia? UFOs? Who, or what? To what degree of blame and accountability? and Are very interesting takes, even if their Ukraine's missiles, there should be a third-party investigation here. In a different context, if there's a homicide, the police or investigating ain't letting any suspects lead the investigation.

Interesting videos:

@Danioover9000 I think Destiny doesn't know enough to comment or retort against Ben Shapiro here, as he knows little about the Ukraine/Russia war, nuclear proliferation, and 'nuclear rent seeking', nor should he have allowed himself to make commentary here if he knows little, for example he complains about Ben Shapiro's critic about Biden and how the USA should respond to a nuclear threat, but then Destiny himself has little to no solutions put forth in dealing with said nuclear threats, so, he ideally should shut the hell up about this conflict and talk about something else different. Destiny has no right to clout chase or farm drama about this topic if he can't provide substantive solutions, even if said list of solutions are half true or half effective.

What are your thoughts about what Destiny's take of this @Leo Gura and @Carl-Richard :

This is a great video showing how manipulative Destiny is, in this entire drama:

Seems like OP is done talking, and the thread has run its course @Carl-Richard.

Seems like this thread has run its course @Carl-Richard.

Congratulations, but really, it's time for another person to take over. At this point Biden is getting used by some other people, and at retirement age it's not really fair to force him to keep on running for president.

@Majed It's likely a bit of both, maybe more construct aware than strategist. However, even though there are stages to ego development, doesn't mean you are clearly a construct aware and not a strategist, or a strategist and not co0nstruct aware. Or an impulsive and not opportunist, or opportunist and not impulsive, this is cognitively binary thinking. Certainly, there are small gaps in between each stage of development, that you can have a mix of the lower stages and the upper stages.

@Vrubel Okay. Okay. That's because of other developments at that time, that they fought like that. Probably not if the USA and NATO countries provided more support and more weaponry and soldiers. Also, given the stage of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types and ego development, states of consciousness, life experiences and other lines of development, from the individual to the collective and societies/cultures, and technological/economic development of those other countries in using new weapons systems against older ways of warfare, probably not. All depending on how it's used. Not everyone. You may be speaking on average, but don't forget there are sadists, sadomasochists, psychopaths, sociopaths, narcissists, and manipulative opportunists/impulsive egos in the Russian side as well as all other sides involved in this conflict that love to fight and wage war, they love to kill other people. Some percentage of the population actually love and crave these scenarios to happen as that gives them the opportunity to show off their combative skills and experiences of warfare. Vietnam war, some American soldiers loved fighting and killing, one 0of them even written a book of how spiritual the Vietnam war experiences really are. Speaking of averages, the Slavic cultures, as well as Scandinavian cultures have a history of violent warfare and fighting and raiding, so no, it's not that simple the categorize everyone as the same as those who value world peace and are similar to the hippies or SJWs, that's likely a progressive/socialistic bias there.

The greatest concern is who's replacing Putin? And is this person far worse and far more manipulative, to continue Putin's vision at a different angle? That the biggest concern for me, because if this future person is way more cut-throat, we're in big trouble.

What's interesting about my relapse, was the experiencing of paresthesia, phantom pains in my chest, arms, legs and balls. Besides the immense pleasure.

@no_name Sure, but why not sue Ukraine first, and then Russia?

Bump.

@Carl-Richard Thanks!

@Daniel347 To me, here are a few ways it could end: 1.The ideal, before any of this happened, is for Ukraine to be a sovereign state that acts as a buffer between NATO and Russia allies. 2. Ukraine may still have the possibility to be a sovereign state after this war, but because of the widespread damages to cities, Ukraine's economy is reduced and must seek out financial aid from outside countries, so, it becomes a weaker buffer state. 3. The war is much more severe, and another compromise, is that Ukraine becomes two: western Ukraine that joins NATO, east Ukraine that becomes Russian territory, and a natural river that separates the two countries. Worse outcome, as NATO and Russia are very close to each other, which provides third parties and domestic/foreign terrorist groups to instigate and escalate tensions between the two. 4. Very unlikely outcome, that all of Ukraine, as a comprise, joins NATO fully, or joins Russia fully.