Danioover9000

@bloomer This is such an over simplification of the self help industry I don't know where to begin addressing the problems. From the start it's mostly outcomes orientated, until eventually the person doing personal development discovers they can internally generate motivation. It just takes time and development, because all things that are good and are highly worthwhile, take time and effort to make.

@axiom Fair enough, but it's also reasonable to expect hurried and decisive action taken by groups to ensure the majority of mankind's survival, so Pizer and the government's Covid policies made sense to implement quickly in that time period. It's unreasonable to complain about evil mainstream this or that when we're dealing with a pandemic that threatened to extinct humanity out of existence, so, for those who want a refund or compensation or reparations, it's reasonable to get those later, but not when we are in the thick of a plague spreading worldwide.

@roopepa Just no.

@Leo Gura Based on spiral stages of development, ego development, cognitive and moral development, personalities, states of consciousness, life experiences and other lines of development in different areas of life, and ideologies and belief systems indoctrinated into people, and even how their minds think and represent reality, I think most average people think this is controversial because they can't allow themselves to imagine hormonal therapy and surgery to change one's sex biology in their minds . They have an instinctive fear about imagining certain scenarios in their minds that is not so easy to forget, so cognitively they will make it a binary good or bad and put the very taboo stuff into the bad category.

@TheAlchemist Yes, those siding with the reputable Cardiologist, are epistemically going all in in one thing only, without being open minded and consider other possibilities instead.

@axiom Meanwhile, we lose ourselves in the drama and forget that Pfizer and Moderna and other companies that rushed the vaccine development SAVED LIVES. We also forget that government, while not perfect, made the right call to be conservative and enforce lock down policies at the time. There's so much bad faith and uncharitable takes here against them that I suspect most of you are blind anti mainstream followers, attacking a mainstream entity when it's about to fall. We should at least try to put ourselves in their shoes and see why they made their decisions.

So many interesting personalities in this thread!

@Ulax Well, that was the idea, but they didn't seem to stop and think of the consequences of hormonal therapy ti children.

@Raze I am strongly against it as its too soon for them to undergo hormonal therapy and surgery to alter their sex.

@Sincerity Sadly, yes. Although I'd call it group think and band wagon mentality, and passive thinking, but it's mostly common. That and typical trolling, haters and critics of Leo naturally. Sometimes it's best to think I'm just a fan, maybe brainwashed by Leo Gura, better this than to realise that you are surrouned by that much evil, ignorance and myopia.

@Thought Art It could have been presented differently and a little bit more fair, done with more charity and good faith, maybe tried to steel man some of Leo's points. At least present in a more objeftive take, like a CNN reporter or something. But no, the video was a bit biased against Leo, being uncharitable and bad faith, painting Leo as cult leader running a death cult. At least he had the decency to not go hard with the triangle symbol and gave some benefit of the doubt. The comment section reinforced my misanthropic view of humanity again. Can we all just stop behaving like aninals and slow down, and think a bit more actively and attentively?

@Lyubov I know right? So far it's been Hawaii and Canada, and that's about it so far. Needs a holiday.

That actually is a good example of what a justification looks like. It's tricky, this one should be easier to spot, but other examples that revolve around heinous crimes, and justifications from perpetrators guilty or innocent, and victims accusing them of such crimes, guilty or innocent, makes it far more trickier.

Here's a pretty good video to explain copyright law:

@Socrates Here's a definition of copywrite law: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjdsZOp1NT8AhWPbcAKHclkDfQQFnoECAsQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.investopedia.com%2Fterms%2Fc%2Fcopyright.asp&usg=AOvVaw29DOeuyCpnsspsJAF9HahP and one explanation of copyright strikes and infringement: So, technically the YouTuber that made the accusation of Leo running a death cult, isn't breaking copyright laws by doing so. He could potentially be making slanderous or defamatory statements of Leo Gura's character and Actualized.org, but state laws will vary when it comes to lawsuits of slander and defamation. For Leo Gura to make a lawsuit, he'll either have to file a lawsuit which requires him to know if slander and defamation charges are recognized in that guy's state and his state, then travel to that guy's state and pursue the trial at him, preferably with a prosecutor if able. Honestly, it already to me sounds like a lot of paper work over some potentially defamatory and drama seeking video, that seems to sound like a hit piece with mostly solid reporting of facts, albeit cherry picked to question Leo's moral character and integrity of Actualized.org but not enough to pursue liability charges for. So, the guy took a similar route like Coffeezilla, and mostly tries to report facts and situations, but cherry picked to make Leo Gura at least look like a bad cult leader, but again not enough for it to be fully slanderous. So, @Socrates, where do we go from here? Is there another argument point you want to move onto? What is the best recourse of action for Leo Gura, or pretend you were him and some made a half and half hit piece about you that's kind of slanderous, what would you do?

@Extreme Z7 He did made a video about authenticity and honesty in the past, which still to this day are gems in their own right.

@Rafael Thundercat Apparently the ego likes being dodgy and doggy, so, that's low consciousness for ya.

@Tyler Robinson I really do, I hope for that Youtuber's sake they age restricted that, it's downright criminal and irresponsible to share those ideas so openly.

@bloomer What exactly did you do to piss off @Leo Gura?

@Kshantivadin Nice comic, story and art work. True that some ideas and philosophies from others hitting the mass consciousness take a life of their own. Similar to the thought forms, servitors, Tulpa, Egregors and god forms that most occults and ancient esoteric traditions practice and warn against. Daniel Schmachtenberger sometimes refers to egregors in explaining mimetics and ideas going viral.

@Rafael Thundercat That's nice, how's the book?

@Thought Art What do you mean?

@mmKay I find that thumbnail disturbing, like WTF? There's some percentage of children, boys and girls now surfing YouTube video. I hope they've age restricted this video because it's soft porno. Click bait culture and chasing Mr. Beast levels of thumbnails is morally debased, my takes.

Very nice rap song, strange loop:

@bloomer Hearts and brains don't exist. Even Bobby boy doesn't exist, after I knock him out.