Danioover9000

@Osaid What does normal orange juice taste like?

@Intraplanetary Sure, did you know that Bud light screwed up with their marketing? While the Hodge Twins are pretty patriotic and bartizan with their newer channel, you get to see how they think and feel as conservatives, with still common sense, and still some humor. Unbelievable, Can't believe Chicago's like this. Which state is next if they don't take this seriously?

@Sucuk Ekmek Well, you need more educated voters, educated in developmental psychology and Spiral Dynamics at least, not just only stage yellow valued people. Getting to scale where most people at stage yellow will be difficult, so next best thing will be more educated populace, but not just only knowledgeable at nation leading or nation building. I assume the default answer, is I want you to vote with little knowledge of politics, society, government and environment stuff because I get to manipulate you through my persona and charisma, and I don't have to hyper elaborate too much on my policies. It may seem self sabotaging, and that citizens are getting screwed, but it seems like it's the best we have so far at societal scale. If we look at these following individuals, like Daniel Schmachtenberger, Jamie Wheel, Ken Wilbur, Don Beck, and we see where they're educated for the most part, we see that they were home schooled and have been intrinsically motivated for learning new things/good parent household and loving parents. How can we replicate these early childhood circumstances to scale up to millions-billions of people having stage yellow values as their mental ecology? That's just fucking hard for me to fathom given recent and current trends in education, seems like traditional educations and public schooling is at the moment very good at scale, whilst border schools, private schooling, military schooling, and home schooling are more difficult to scale. Of course, I agree that most people shouldn't be ideologically identical because that's just another copy of you.

@Hardkill What would help them in transcending their stage of development up the Spiral, cognitive and moral development, personality types and traits, states of consciousness, life experiences and other lines of development in other life domains, ideological indoctrinations, and self biases, they must arrive at what Ken Wilbur calls 'transformational dilemma' through life experiences, conversing with new people with differing perspectives, travel to new places, master new skills, and challenge each of your fear barriers.

@Enigma777 Maybe he was feeling petty that day, and given his biases he's kind of acting it out.

@Jodistrict Should there be a legal function that can override early settlement? Like Fox settled early quickly, but legally they could cancel and refuse the settlement to proceed to court procedures?

@hoodrow trillson Holy shit! This is like open season hunting onto Fox News. Man, I kind of feel sorry for them a little, yikes I don't want to still be in Fox after this.

@Schizophonia However, they do provide emotional value, and even sometimes functions as a replacement for a thing or person you've lost, and can provide some emotional and sentimental value to the owner, even if that's a coping mechanism. You could say they're mostly useless and only act as some source of fats, proteins and for clothing for example, nature has a use for these kinds of animals clearly, otherwise nature would have extinct them a long time ago.

@at_anchor Based on Spiral Dynamics stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types and traits, ego development, states of consciousness and other lines of development in various areas of life, and ideological indoctrination, self biases, it'll be hard to implement each of your solutions. 1. Making parks for farm animals sounds good, but that space could instead be used to grow a garden, or a building for others, or a zoo sanctuary, or just apartment complex. This is another Moloch situation, arms race to better stuff, because are the higher status people, the SD blue/orange people incentivized to making an animal farm park, when instead they could use the space to build a fancy technology building, or even vertical farming instead? 2. Okay, but what happens to local butchers, or industrial level butchers? big business owners that process cows? They lose advantage, in exchange businesses dealing with slaughtering and raising chickens for eggs, poultry, and feathers will raise, and even create more problems for the chickens, whilst we have a surplus of cows, what do we do with the less useful cows? 3. Okay, we start selling pinto bean sausages, and figure out the marketing and promotion, the supply lines, equipment and hiring employees that can do this. However, the pricing can become a problem because making a product cheaper and affordable, while it sounds nice and can have more reach to more demographics and psychographics, can be a problem depending on how much tax your business has to pay, how much money you spend for the ingredients, how much salary you pay to your employees, and maybe insurance costs and coverages because sometimes accidents are expensive to fix. What do you do in a mid-high tax bracket state, where corporate tax is mid-high? 4. This is kind of a mute point, because there's already 10,00s of YouTube channels that are entertainment/educational, educational mostly, that are animal welfare and animal centric, yet most people of stage blue/orange values still mostly continue their treatment of farm animals, home pets, and general outlook, whilst any changes are at best minor scale and not global, no disrespect to Gretta Thunderbird. 5. Converting a population with a historical development of Christianity, into Buddhism currently will not work fast enough nor will scale to the collective level within western cultured divisions and countries. Taking a stage blue populace and taking actions of preaching/proselytizing and religious conversion into another religion like Buddhism, another mostly stage blue religion, in a western culture that has Christian ideological indoctrination and history, will be met with egoic backlash, individually to collectively. 6. This seems like the most applicable and feasible solution, to make peace with your circumstances of the world and even in your own life, because sometimes we'll fail to make the ideal changes in our lives or in the world, and if we don't practice some gratitude or have appreciation over things that are very difficult to change, or in some cases near impossible to change globally, we end up thinking and feeling more negatively and we put ourselves more in scarcity and desperation to change those circumstances.

@Tanz What are your views on animal testing? Should we stop it and reduce it?

@Oppositionless Yeah, I hope they can develop this technology so that lab meat gets mass produced, and tastes nice. Another animal welfare and right issue, is getting the animal drugged or drunk. I mean animal testing and using the latest chemical compounds to test on, and pumping that animal full of alcohol and drugs isn't morally good to me.

@Osaid Never heard of Tropicana? The Brand that sells orange juice?

@tuku747 decent source of vitamin c. I have it around lunch time and in the afternoon. Half or so a cup of orange juice and rest is water.

@Thought Art Best post so far. Should be another great quote.

@Ninja_pig IMO it's not worth commenting on. Realistically you're not going to be like Destiny, and persuade the YouTuber to change their minds. Do you even know how much time, energy and effort goes into making a video? At this point it's not debatable whether you should be attacking or defending a video, it's just a waste of time in most cases because they double down and obfuscate and gaslight how they're right and you're wrong and deluded. I sometimes do this mistake as well, but it's one time comments and I reference psychological modals I've learnt, and most still stay with their positions. I even commented on a react YouTube channel of rap songs, and I commented and showcased my tier 2 cognitive commentary, and I intuitively felt from reading his reply is that he's scared of my cognition, and even tries to write my comment off as too vague and too extrapolatory everywhere, even cites his so called 17 years of behavioral psychology to justify his low grade opinionated reaction video, no matter how I tried to clarify to him it's commenting on the bigger aspects and it's nothing personal to him but it got so irritating that I just ended it with a gotcha comment and left. It's just not worth it to babble to these who are committed to staying to a sinking ship sinking to the oceans depths.

@Blackhawk That's one assumption. Another would be that because he's popular he has more sway, optics, persuasion and is able to convince others to take the AI and AGI development seriously.

@Husseinisdoingfine These are really good interviews! Good jo finding this channel, I'm watching his other videos and he has an interesting style of communication. Glad he got to interview Don Beck and Ken Wilbur.

@Vrubel before and during the war, at that time, the Yankees and earlier Colonial settlers in America felt not represented, or were they convinced and persuaded into rebelling against GB? So, the drive was about asserting themselves as Americans, a newer nationalistic and patriotic identity? For reference see below: Also relevant to the Ukraine/Russia conflict, because the two experts here also claim that Ukraine is in a similar psychological and symbolic position as was America and GB, fighting for their freedom to be identified and survive as Ukraine and Ukrainians, also recently invented nationalist identities as well.

@SunnyCyn First of all, before you criticize me, please correctly link the original quote to the original user, in this case it's @Thought Art and not me that stated below: I think this post should be directed to @Thought Art instead of me, but I'll add my 2 cents to this unintended post to me. I'm a survivor of a paranormal haunting that nearly killed me, and have experienced paranormal events in the past, and have enough meditation experiences that my intuitions lead me most of the time, and I have no issue with being a bit lead by thoughts, feelings, emotions, senses, second hand knowledge, first person experiences because they happen to me. I personally don't mind nor find issue with that.

@Davino I agree, it's a good point. Shame some people here misinterpret, maybe intentionally just for trolling and such. Also, astronomy is a thing whether you or someone else thinks, at least there's potential benefit to contemplating your life through the cards or some astronomy practice, at least it gets you thinking a bit more about life. And thanks to this one person there'll be more collective interest in developing AI systems faster.

@at_anchor @Sucuk Ekmek I guess my main issue is how do I balance my personal, biological and psychological needs with the animal welfare and animal rights situation? Like I don't want to be a drunken bunny internet personality raving and being crazy because I don't have enough carbs, fats, proteins and other nutritional stuff, and it then effecting my mental, psychological and state of mind making me think like I'm some intellectual superiority complex or intellectia hubrisia Rationaleta or something. I really want to do just a little bit of good to animals through government, society and political actions maybe, but I don't want to risk being more crazy because of it.

@at_anchor Nah, your answer is decent enough, it's not bad, but it's good enough and it's not like I want a tier 3 cognitive answer or anything. May need further elaborations here and there but it's decent.

@Sucuk Ekmek Firstly, that's a badly loaded question I'm not answering directly because I'll like some imperial colonialist, so let me change the question that I can answer and be more good faith: Given the challenges due to SD stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types, states of consciousness, life experiences and other lines of development across multiple domains of a person's life to societal domains, and the ideological indoctrination, how would you help them develop socially and psychological so that they become more like 1st world democracies and be more ideologically aligned to you? My answer to this better question would be to encourage the politicians somehow that it would be in their best interest change their intentions into nation building a few of these 3rd world countries, and change their government, societies and their own politics to be slightly more similar to yours because of the Moloch and arms race situations making all of us double down into our own biases with game A orientation instead of game B, because if we don't address the Moloch and come together to work it out and figure it out, we'd deteriorate so fast that it will threaten your own survival agendas and the legacy and family you leave behind. It's basically a bad Mexican stand off were nobody is coming out of this a clear, total winner, even if there's one winner, the sacrifices and compromises for winning is too great a cost to our country and to the world. That would be my answer, not the best answer on the spot but it's sufficient at the moment.

@Vrubel But is America really the first Democracy? What about the UK?, what about Canada? What about Athens? Athens is technically the first democratically structured rulership, and there could be others earlier I don't know, but why should America be except?

@Danioover9000 For reference: