Danioover9000

@ZoweeZoe I think @Roy and I may agree on the starting premise that it's existentially pointless when or when not transgender people transition, or that transgenderism and transracialism is fundamentally pointless. However, I think both of us would disagree over the specifics, contextualization and relativity of the factors needed to make sense of whether transgendered people should or shouldn't transition, and whether transrace or transgenderism are pointless when some are emotionally attached to these ideologies. For example, how do you know when a child really has gender dysphoria, by birth, or just because saying their gender dysphoric/trans is another way of getting attention from their in-group or it's a result of peer pressure? When is it the right time to transition physically, undergo surgery, remove male parts or add female parts? I assume @Roy's answer will be the same as mine: that the child should go through therapy for a couple of years to determine if that gender dysphoria is genuine, then after that they can go to HTR, and if that's successful, after reaching age of consent, as an adult you can apply for physical transition. That's my position and @Roy's. The same line of reasoning with race, how do we know the child really wants to be white, but is born with melatonin that makes him appear African American or some other ethnicity/nationality? I think here both @Roy and I may disagree more with the concern is pointless argument, because this is such an easy way to write off actually concerns to half concerns of events and people effected by certain ideologies, and concern of whether behaviors and actions that were taken were wrong in context. If we encounter someone who has transitioned, but in retrospect is now regretting their decision, should we not take that into account for future cases going forward? Should we take more precautionary steps, instead of rushing a confused teenager/child, suffering from gender dysphoria/other dysphoria, into transitioning more out of ideology and less out of that person's genuine well-being?

@Roy I think it's one of those trolling tests, he's testing our common sense again.

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Interesting podcast we'll be listening to and sharing our thoughts:

Can we talk about Michael Jackson here? I feel he's nearly the perfect example of transrace, and maybe transgenderism, but nobody is pushing back on if this is a goad example or not. So, is he, or is there a better one?

@RebornConsciousness Never give up questioning. He gave up on me when he can't answer anymore, see?

@Leo Gura I'm centrist conservative, yet I don't think, feel and behave like Steven Crowder, so is he really a good example of the average conservative? Especially when we factor into Stage of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types and traits, states of being, life experiences and other lines of development, and different ideological indoctrinations? I feel that demographically he might be representative of conservative, but psychographics might be more diverse here, especially if we factor in other countries and environments as well.

@Blackhawk Why would you answer my question 'why wouldn't you judge?' with an 'I don't know?'? Are you assuming that saying 'I don't know' is enough reason to support your claim of not judging nor caring about the net negative of people's actions, along with transrace and transgender issues?

@Blackhawk If this is true, then you've judged, and generalized that all people compete in sports because they expect a fair game. A man that's a transgender competing against a woman is not a fair game, although it's important to specify the type of sport. I said combat sports which for example is boxing, wrestling, MMA, so under these types it's highly unfair. Which means all this implies that you're assuming, and drawing distinctions and judging one group of people versus another, so you're contradicted what you've stated as you don't care about others and that you don't judge, seems like you do. Is my assumption of your conclusions you've drawn accurate? What do you mean sports can never be unfair because people are born differently? Do you mean that sports unfairness is universal? If it's unfair universally, and if there's fairness then it's a tie, then would this be you judging and caring and creating distinctions?

@Blackhawk Why wouldn't you judge?

@Blackhawk What do you mean not the same thing when others are involved? Letting people do stuff implies people are involved. Letting trans people into women's combat sports, with their higher testosterone levels, implies multiple trans people competing with multiple women. So, if it's only with them, with the outsiders, and you don't witness or know, then it doesn't matter? So, until you're involved with fighting a trans person, until you're getting beaten, then it's not that important?

@Blackhawk You don't care when a Trans person is beating a woman in a sport, and having an unfair advantage due to higher testosterone?

@Blackhawk Do you those fears are ungrounded, when Transwomen compete in women's combat sports?

@Blackhawk Do you think those fear are not grounded?

@Blackhawk How is that relevant to Transgenderism and transrace?

@Enlightement Is he really a clout chaser?

@Blackhawk What is a people? And what if letting people do what they want with their bodies results in a net negative?

@Vrubel That's true, wokism can be dangerous if left unchecked, woke has to be checked at it's place. IRL progressives, those that actually value the minorities and do work hard, compared to the majority of left wing internet viruses are actually good people, just this woke ideology needs to be checked in it's place as a bit crazy, along with the internet, time for an actual online government.

@Hardkill He's decent, and will challenge the democratic party, kind of act like another Trump litmus test. Definitely has interesting takes overall, but he's not perfect, for one his take on Covid is a bit bad. Decent leader, good to see a Kennedy running for at least POTUS.

@r0ckyreed That depends on culture, country, SD stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types and traits, states of consciousness, life experiences and other lines of development in life domains to societal domains, and ideology indoctrinated from upbringing and culture. It's mostly cultural whether it's western/eastern cultures, even country and environment play a role. What do you mean 'overlook the confound of privilege? You mean the factor of privilege? Are you assuming in general most conservatives being privileged, white, cisgender, heterosexual and Christian, within the USA? What about within Canada, Mexico, Brazil, the UK, European countries, or eastern division ones like Japan, Korea, China, Taiwan, Thailand? Why is it that hard to be happy in society? Because of what? Lack of fundamental rights to safety, liberty, and pursuit of happiness? Are you still talking about the USA or some other country? What if the 1-5 percent of the population, acts too self entitled, endangers others, too libertarian, and in their pursuit of happiness demands the 95-99 percent of the population, with so many worldviews to cater to their own worldview, but doing so undermines mainstream standards?

Oi, I shared a video about transgenderism here, and that woman's on it. WHO TIPPED OFF DESTINY ABOUT THIS VIDEO HUH?!

I think it's better to shut down temporarily and test and see what happens.

@Joel3102 Nice, will be reading them.

@Joel3102 That's right, especially if you factor in which is more grounded in reality, and not corrupted by the internet and the social media sites like Twitter, Twitch gamer/streamer political spheres and sub communities, they're the ones screaming all conservatives are Nazis are the ones more crazier than IRL versions.

@Roy Exactly man, I've been to enough places that different countries have different flavors o conservatives and other ideologies, guess it's really cultural, and thanks to the internet it's a bit corrupted.