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Just because it's interesting to see how they argue they're points being rappers, not coming from streamers or the Sam Harris/Jordan Peterson types. From my side, I'm more pro vax and less anti vax with many conditions if I am to swing a bit more anti vax. I'll always say that it's your spiritual, moral and civic duty as a citizen to take the vaccine, and follow covid policy then because there are some who have far weaker immune systems than you, the children and the elderly with compromised immune systems. To me it just seems that if I'm sick with Covid, and I do a 50/50 with the policies, and I happen to spread this to a person with weak immune system and they died, then I'm guilty of being an accomplice to helping the virus spread. Also, I hate germs. Please be civil, open minded when discussing your take on this video, don't intentionally get this thread derailed thanks: Just interesting takes and insights, based on developmental factors.

@Sucuk Ekmek Judging from that short clip, and his body language, he likely won't come to accept the consequences, even if proven guilty. A great charisma, personality, and persuasion rhetoric and success /=/ spiritual growth and integrity. *Rapists, not rappers.

@Yimpa Isn't the projecting about the system is identical to his own psyche more psychological than spiritual, or vice versa? If kharma or incarnation/reincarnation exists, is this a karmic effect of Russel Brand's evil actions? A self fulfilling prophecy? Rape, in the legal and moral sense is a serious issue and clearly a wrong to me, but let's deviate briefly and talk about the spiritual territory, like having sex with incubi/succubae, demonic sex, or even rough sex role plays. What are your takes on these, and sex fantasies involving rape?

@Israfil This is basically my position simplified down, albeit it's simplified more than mine.

@newbee What hypocrisy? I did state that most anti vaxxers are a bit cold blooded and irresponsible, not stupid but ignorant and ideological, because they know that by encouraging others to not take the vaccine as part of a health preparation against viruses, they are putting their lives in greater danger. For example, look at Russel Brand(now canceled for being accused of rape and too much anti mainstream talk talk) and Joe Rogan and his simplistic takes of some Ivermectin drug, which is anti parasitic drug not anti viral, for horses to treat worms, being used for the Covid-19 virus, look at their subscriber count and views. In the millions and more view them, and many of them will develop an ideological stance of anti vaccine because Big Pharma evil. How many people have suffered more from blindly believing in their anti establishment rhetoric and anti vax points? This then makes anti vaxxers cold blooded and irresponsible, guilty by accomplice to helping the virus spread, and helping the virus infiltrate other human bodies not prepared for Covid-19 in that 3-6 months to first year of Covid-19 spreading from Wuhan Province into Italy and the rest of the world. This exactly like MAGA trump supporters who stubbornly won't follow Covid-19 policy and taking the vaccination for others who are weaker immune systems, they don't see how important it is to slow down the spread of the virus. What happened to some of these who parrot and strongly support anti vax? What do you think happens to an organization, or group, if they can't do their jobs and do a function within society well enough? What do you think happens to a group, or institute, that creates more suffering than good short to long term? They are destroyed early on in history, same thing with the French Monarchy, they pissed off the French people, didn't adjust and adapted, hence the French Revolution took place because the French Monarchy made the people suffer immensely. So, since big pharma has survived for more than 100 years and counting, do you agree that they're serving a function in society and are still providing some value then? After all, to you big pharma is the devil that's killing so many people, making them sick and all that...yet they're still here, treating physical injuries in trauma centers like putting casts and saving lives from severe physical damages, providing some relief with pain killers, making western medicine more widely accessible and better equipment. People often took a vaccine despite their gut feeling...because of medical tyranny? So you believe that doctors, and the WHO, are a bunch of dictators? My empathy is for the ones with immune system disorders, weaker immune systems, respiratory and heart issues that are more at danger to Covid-19, more so than to healthy fit young doctors that died due to the virus, because I'm a human being with finite time, energy, attention, and empathy, that I have to be selectively biased and preferential to some places and some groups of people. I don't have infinite empathy, and neither do you, so attacking me for limited empathy is a mute point. That point of bringing up that Chinese doctor that died young and fit is to show the other user how dangerous Covid-19 was in Wuhan province, with no vaccination in his system, no other health boosting practices, and he is very reasonably fit and healthy, yet he died of the virus with no protection, which undermines this herd immunity seeking and no vaccination from immature stage green hippies, new agers and SJW types. I mean myocarditis caused by the Covid-19 virus firstly, then a fraction by the Mrna technology. No, that's a straw man of my point, first yes it's bad to get myocarditis from the Covid-19 virus with no vaccination beforehand. Side effect of a vaccine is a fraction of the effect of the original virus it's based off of, so you're in fact ignoring proper cost comparison, cost of getting myocarditis from a vaccine versus cost of myocarditis from the real Covid-19 virus. The real Covid-19 virus is far worse than the side effect of a vaccine. Basically, myocarditis side effects from a vaccine is a derivative from the original which is far worse, multiple times worse than the vaccine and the spiked protein shell of the virus. It's basic mathematics, distribution, derivatives. and science. You do know basic mathematics and science right? Taking your logic and anti vaxxer logic, if anti vaxxers had their way, they'd block the polio vaccination because it's has side effects, don't take them, don't make them because big pharma evil. Therefore, people suffer with polio far longer because anti vaxxers don't take and stop pharma from making polio vaccine to save lives. That's why polio vaccines are made, distributed, and killed majority of polio, worked and saved far more lives than anti vaxxer denials and delusional takes will. This is why capitalism and pharmacy works, and anti vax delusions don't. Maybe try to be more good faith and charitable to my position first, and less cursing and name calling and trolling me with misinformation of the anti vax points, and less fear mongering big pharma boogeyman and bad points.

@Tanz This is what all documentaries do mate. All documentaries are biased and preferential, designed towards a certain narrative and story telling of one side. All documentaries do that, and interviews do that, they all have a certain bias and story to align.

@Optimized Life Consent is complicated, by Mr. Girl. Ask @Carl-Richard for the link of the video.

@Leo Gura X being Twitter?

@Javfly33 Except me.?

@Leo Gura You are getting better at joking lately.?

@Bobby_2021 Yep, similar thing happened to Mr. Girl, due to the mass reporting against him.

@Tanz They did go after Mr. Girl, with the shady mass reporting by Those other streamers.

@Tanz So one negative outweighs the positives of a system?

@StarStruck But I clicked on your hyperlink, it's fine. Oh wait, unless it's the imaging part, yeah sorry it's not displaying it LOL.

@Tanz That was what I was saying, that surveillance systems are needed, and you were saying the opposite of that. Yes data collection is important, but I don't know to what extent is it sold to other parties, or is just stored for future use. Obviously it's important, data collection of users or people, because, you know, if one person offends and does a criminal action, and the system has data on the one individual, can make tracking much quicker no?

@StarStruck Your link is actually fine, I checked. I think Leo was joking.

@newbee Could you elaborate on my possible hypocrisy then? Claiming my post that answers your questions as dodgy, assuming my dodgy reply is to evade my own hypocrisy, claiming I'm making you dumb looking, and claiming that I'm appealing to over complexities, are a bunch of fallacies you are interpreting of me in a bad faith way. You are being uncharitable in how I communicated to you and how I communicated my answer to your question. Now you're stating that I need to learn more of the older history of Palestinians, the thousand year old Arab imperialism, Islamic history, oppressing and expelling the jews, these ae fallacious claims of me, which are bad faith, and appeals to a lack of specific knowledge base and lack of depth in knowledge is also a fallacy. I can say that most users here have varying degrees, depth and breadth of knowledge, of worldly history. Just because a person may lack one niche and specialized knowledge does not mean they are bad faith actors, but at least are pundits commenting on the state of some areas of the world. As I've stated, it's a very complicated issue to resolving the Israel/Palestine conflict, also because of the other neighboring tribes and countries in that region. I'm not viewing this conflicted one sided, I view in multiple sides.

@StarStruck Basically, a guy who's bigger, versus a smaller yet well trained and skilled fighter.

@Tanz Oh no, the evil surveillance state! How am I to privately change my clothes, the evil pervy politicians, when they've tapped into my computers and my phones?!? Sorry, in comparison to a user messaging me that my pic was used as masturbation material, there's little comparison. Surveillance systems are needed, given the big population numbers and density per state, cities and even counties and towns. FBI and other criminal investigation cases do rely on CCTV footages showing mass shootings, kidnappings, theft, or other bits of information to track offenders, so no realistically we still need a surveillance system in place, just like we need a strong robust moderation system in this forum. There's good reason why we sometimes need regulation systems in check. Please keep your anti establishment anti mainstream biases in check.

I will likely wait and see if this whole thing is going official, I mean official investigation into the matter.

@Tanz In fact, best opportunity, if YouTube and those holders felt threatened, is to take down his channel for spreading covid-19 misinformation, and shadow ban him from YouTube, force him out to other video platforms or other social media sites. That's if they really are threatened, they could easily do just that, so why wait so long just to cancel him?

@Tanz If the YouTube business holders viewed Russel's Channel as a threat, why wait this long when they could've taken his channel down 5-10 years ago? Two very different contexts you're talking about. We're mainly talking of rape and speculating on Russel's guilty or not, and cancel culture. We're not talking about gun Channels or mass shootings like what? Why conflate the two different contexts?

@Jodistrict That could potentially be a factor, among other factors involved in this situation. This reminds me of another context with coverage of trans issues, and the question of whether it's mostly ideologically based and propagated via information and social media, versus actual gender dysphoria felt in that person? Science and psychology has yet to parse this ratio properly, plus due to the polarizing takes, both sides of the political wings will be close minded and dogmatic instead of taking a more centrist view of this specific issue.

@Jehovah increases But good luck saying that to companies nowadays which are now incentivized to go for sound bits, sensational takes and over exaggerated points for clicks and views, thanks to how toxic the internet has become now.

@Alex M Which is problematic in the future, as it gives a false sense of self entitlement to one's opinions. The internet/online communities and digital culture is rotting most of the minds out at this point, too much information in fact too much misinformation in our current information landscape.