Danioover9000

@An young being How does technologies that rapidly replace human labor jobs(AKA automation and A.I enhanced automation) solve for economic growth problems? How is this an argument for solving the growing economic problems, when the majority are caused by feminism, egalitarianism, and neoliberalism/capitalism run amok, not just in Japan but in the majority of the westernized countries? Take South Korea for example, already westernized by America, yet it too is also facing lower birthrates due to higher divorces, feminism, egalitarianism and neoliberalism run amok, meanwhile to the North a totalitarianism based regime, North Korea, have higher birthrates meeting it's threshold replacement rates for it's society, which can easily replace manpower and soldier units for it's own military? How does your A.I tech and genes solution solve for South Korea's lowering birthrates? By increasing automation and A.I enhanced automation, you increase unemployment rates due to employers not needing human resources for labor jobs, especially men, which increases unemployment rates and homelessness rates. IQ distribution is a real metric as a lot of those labor roles are filled by people with lower IQ ranges, so when you implement your solution, you'll also be increasing labor shortages and job sector shortages that require those labor jobs by lower IQ ranged people, plus those lower IQ ranged people cannot climb the corporate ladder or do those knowledge based intensive jobs like S.T.E.M related jobs or office worker jobs or even IT tech jobs. Due to this oversight of yours you'll also have to account for training and educating those with lower IQ ranges, whilst housing them somehow in the meantime. This and many other developmental factors involved makes your solution tricky to implement without causing other problems, and even contributing to the birthrate problems as well. Also, I only brought up 3d A.I enhanced pornography, not murdering and stealing humans, you made that claim. The reason why I brought up A.I enhanced pornography is that due to the sexual liberation movement, Feminism, egalitarianism, western democracy, multiculturalism, and neoliberalism, the dating and sex market will adopt your A.I solution and actually worsen the birthrates because it discourages men from pursuing long term relationships and increase the single life and individualism per men/women, which worsens the issue with birthrates in first world democracies, so in a twisted sense your solution also partly adds to the birthrate crisis as people will become more sexualized and perverted by 3d enhanced A.I pornography, because the hyper stimuli and novel seeking and dopamine chasing of the brains of young men and women will cause them to develop negative self image issues, increases in narcissism, neuroticism, sociopathy and psychopathic traits due to social media platforms and sites that prey on the minds of the consumers, to arrest and prolong their exposure to contents hyper curated by algorithms to feed and take as much of that user's time, energy and attention span for more clicks and views and scroll time. Addressing the third world countries, your A.I solution might be far worse for these countries, because again your A.I enhanced automation will disturb the employment to unemployment rates for these third world countries as these countries rely even more on labor intensive jobs to feed themselves and their families. Again this seems like it's traced back to neoliberalism, egalitarianism and feminism viewing these third world countries in this modernist, secularist, materialist, hyper individualist way from America. It may be part of predatory capitalism run amok as well. I would propose smaller democracies even there, with smaller governments geared more to capitalism pursuit, with which America doesn't regulate as much, and even China/Russia's economic interest should be limited as well, to allow those third world countries to sort themselves out. Eventually the patriarchy in those third world countries will reorder itself for it's own survival, which then corrects the excess of birthrates there. Last thing to do is to encourage these third world countries to allow their citizens to leave and migrate away from their developing countries to pursue a multiculturalism and egalitarianism from America which is faulty at best, deceptive at worst.

@DocWatts Thanks for your additional points. Yes a sudden drop in birth rates, say within 20 years, can create imbalances in age distribution in societies. I do think part of this problem comes from Neoliberalism, egalitarianism and feminism run amok. We actually need smaller, more limited democracies at this point if we can't replenish our numbers in the future.

@PurpleTree This video as well, which shows the Apollo 11 crew giving a conference post moon landing: Her body language analysis of part of that conference: Now compare and contrast their public presentation in this pre conference before their flight to the moon: I don't disagree with her body language analysis of the Apollo 11 crew's conference, but I do disagree with why and her conclusion of her analysis simply being that these men are experiencing just stage fright. Remember they were generally more happier and excited preflight. Now they're not that happy, and even stressed and closed post flight. I don't think it's just stage fright as that's unlikely because they had some experience talking to crowds of people beforehand. Which opens up the question of what they had seen on that moon for them to go from excited to distressed afterwards?

@PurpleTree Probably are such forces that exist. Reminds me of these videos here:

@jimwell I don't think this is a realistic stance to view A.I technology. It's still too early to celebrate, and quite frankly A.I technology is just one of many possible solutions to solving systemic issues in society, and addressing problem spaces that have multifaceted origins in other developmental factors and fields of life and society, values systems, cognitive biases and moral frameworks, personality types/traits and psychological developments, ideological beliefs indoctrinated by culture, family upbringing, environment, mainstream/alternative media sources, tv programs, advertising, news paper, radio, social media sites with algorithms and A.I that hyper curate content to user biases creating echo chambers of ideology, addictive digital formats that prey on attention span which decreases attention spans leading to ADD/ADHD increase as well as higher narcissism, sociopathy and psychopathy mindsets towards other people and worlds, which all creates and maintains rivalrous relationships with people and the world.

@Ninja_pig I partly agree that Japan may be an outlier of lowest birthrates even /=/ destabilizing economy, although in this case we'll need to know more about how the westernized economy within Japan is handled and done versus Russia's economy, or the USA's capitalistic economy is handled, basically how one culture and economy in comparison/contrast to another culture's handling. While I still think feminism and egalitarianism, and neoliberalism brought over by America and the west has westernized Japan, again not by choice(look at the history of WW2 and the Pacific war, and how Japan had to unconditionally surrender to America or face existential annihilation by nuclear bombs, that America chose to use because the military estimated there would be a huge loss of life if they proceeded with traditional invasions into Japan), I'll agree partly that the wealth inequality and limitations of capitalism and neoliberalism as individualism increases will also play a factor in Japan's increasing homelessness problem, but also it's lowering birth rates as women become more westernized and are careers orientated and more individualistic. I also agree that A.I programs and technologies are not the only solutions to this situation, and expecting this tech to help all of humanity is foolish thinking, it's all a grotesque theoretical fantasy to think that what the big tech companies will do is going to improve any of our social systemic issues, because they are not careful to consider other developmental factors negatively effected.

Good bye 2 days worth of posts I made. I will miss you deeply.

@Vrubel Really? I thought the Egyptian government sent intel over to Israel about this HAMAs attack? So why didn't Israel at least give light security to the party goers? And why even have a party that close to the border?

@lina You're welcome! It's sad to lose 2 days worth of posts, I've had some good back and forth arguments in other threads and some here, but nevertheless we have to sally forth.

The derailment of this thread in a nutshell:

@Vrubel Would you agree that partying on the border of Gaza, without security, was a bad idea?

@lina The reason why a lot of posts are missing is because of some data crash this site had, which resulted to 2 days loss of data. @Leo Gura made a thread explaining the issue in the personal development forum.

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@An young being How is a nation/country/society benefiting from lower birth rates? Japan if I remember the numbers correctly, are not producing fast enough to meet the threshold of replacement numbers in Japan for it's citizens, it's significantly too low for replacements. The ramifications for much lower birth rates is much lower populations, which effects parts of society in a negative ways. How is your solution of A.I and genetics technologies going to help Japan for instance, never mind the third world countries? Again, this isn't limited to Japan, but all other western countries are facing low birth rates. Even Russia is facing this same issue that their Russian citizens are not reproducing fast enough to sustain Russia in the future For example, if your specific policy for A.I technology is 3d pornography, well that feeds into the unhealthy hentai/doujinshi markets of the anime and manga industry, which just encourages men and women to remain single longer, and discourages men and women marrying as the incentives for sexual release is met with your 3d hyper stimulating A.I technology. Another example is your genetics technology solution, maybe C.R.I.S.P.R is what your referring to? In that instance, what genes would you select for Japan's population? How would you fund these solutions? How would you convince and persuade the older and Gen Z generation of Japan to take your policies seriously? What if you need state wide support from the government, but due to the lower birth rates you don't have enough people to test and trial out your solutions? What if you encounter many difficulties due to other developmental factors?

@AerisVahnEphelia I believe in a strong ethical and moral framework is necessary for societies to live in cohesion. Without men enforcing moral and ethical standards, well, everyone then can kill, rape, steal, lie, commit other evil and deranged acts like necrophilia, incest, and so on with impunity. All that depraved action is a net bad, a very big net bad. For example, why is fucking your cousin immoral?

@Migue Lonas No different than Russel Brand, he got the anti mainstream anti establishment bug in his mind. At least Owen wasn't a hardcore drug and sex addict, and a party animal.

@Razard86 I'm glad you finally understood @Nahm, the importance of doing your research, defining terms, and carefully debating people.I am glad you agree with me that your nonsensical postings in this thread needed fixing. Glad you conceded your argument and proved my point.

@An young being How would A.I and genetic technologies solve social issues such as decreases of intaked households and mitigate single parent household, increasing divorce rates and difficulties in getting married and having a family partly due to egalitarianism and feminism run amok? IMO, your solution solves very little, 1% of the birthrate crisis. It's like you're only cutting the leaves of a weed and not going to the root, wrapping around a hand going gang green. That's the western world, and Neoliberalism and capitalism, with these progressives and socialists, deep in denial os the systemic issues nd developmental factors that contribute to the birthrate decline.

@jimwell Partly the birth crisis happening in Japan is due to Feminism and increasing egalitarianism for women, which decreases the traditional female roles of the household. A shift away from motherhood and traditional female roles, and more towards the average young female population geating to career goals could be why. In fact there's data out there to show when this decrease started, and I bet it's after America had won the Pacific war,but imparted onto Japan it's Neoliberalism ideology, egalitarianism and western values. Also, birth rate decreases is not limited to Japan, but the majority of westernized countries have those rates, again due to egalitarianism and feminism, and to too much sexual liberation, which made marriages less significant as a sacred rite of coupling, but also the chase to date and have too much sex devalues the bonding. Another factor is the erosion of the nuclear family unit, or intaked family homes.

@Razard86 Bro, everything is made of 80% water, and it takes anything made of 80% water to see and know another thing made up of 80% water dude. That's your broken logic. Don't pull a @Nahm on us now.

@Tobia This is why we need outside external forces to put pressure on Israel to stop land grapping from the Palestinians. Also, if that report is true, then Netanyahu is straight up a war criminal for supporting HAMAs in the past, knowing that it'll weaken Palestinian statehood.

Nice debate by Andrew again, and how he handles the lots of weaseling and goal post changes by his opponent. Crazy:

@AerisVahnEphelia ?

@PurpleTree I could tell from body language analysis that Netanyahu, despite trying to sound confident, had moments of lip compression(Which is sign of stress and withholding words, maybe lying) and clasping of hands around his genital region, may appear as a confident posture, but just like with Adolf Hitler, him covering his region is a sign of insecurity. As for Joe Bidden, has his moments of lip retraction and lip compressions, lots of 'um's and 'ah's in his verbals, again due to his cognitive difficulties I can't get a more accurate read from his tonality and words, but to claim that HAMAs makes ISIS more rational is a bit of a stretch.

@Aaron p Yes, moral living will affect your karmic cycle.